Attacked by security guard - police blaming me!
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ging84 said:
Never understood why on court room dramas they seem to object for leading a witness, despite that being basically what the whole process is.
You are not allowed to lead your own witness because you are giving him the answer.You can and should lead at some point a witness you are cross-examining.
kestral said:
You are not allowed to lead your own witness because you are giving him the answer.
You can and should lead at some point a witness you are cross-examining.
So, kestral. Fancy sharing your legal credentials? I'm guessing the Google Polytechnic, but am prepared to be corrected. You can and should lead at some point a witness you are cross-examining.
kestral said:
Will you contact The Hon, Mr Justice Elias of the Inns of Court School of Law to tell him he is teaching his barristers the wrong cross-examination techniques information or shall I. 
Who's F. Lee Baly who lies about cabling something is the real question hereEdited by kestral on Tuesday 10th December 20:59
I think Milkround should be speaking to his solicitor to see what he says about an appeal (it's called an appeal but really it's the same case from the begining again).
You should also be looking at how the solicitor can charge you at all! turning up over two hours late without all the evidence, that is very bad and they know it. They will not mention the amount of money you pay them if you don't. So complain.
Also you need to decide if you want to appeal very quickly as there is a 21 day limit (with very limited exeptions).
Some have said people may be making you a sacrificial lamb/scapegoate for their own ends. That maybe true.
If I where you I would do this. I would ask myself 'did I get a fair hearing' if you did then consider moving on and forget an appeal.
If you think you did not get a fair hearing then consider an appeal if you think you will not be able to rest in the future,saying in 2yrs time "I should have appealed"
You only have 21 days to decide if you will be able to live with the result.
You should also be looking at how the solicitor can charge you at all! turning up over two hours late without all the evidence, that is very bad and they know it. They will not mention the amount of money you pay them if you don't. So complain.
Also you need to decide if you want to appeal very quickly as there is a 21 day limit (with very limited exeptions).
Some have said people may be making you a sacrificial lamb/scapegoate for their own ends. That maybe true.
If I where you I would do this. I would ask myself 'did I get a fair hearing' if you did then consider moving on and forget an appeal.
If you think you did not get a fair hearing then consider an appeal if you think you will not be able to rest in the future,saying in 2yrs time "I should have appealed"
You only have 21 days to decide if you will be able to live with the result.
meatballs said:
Who's F. Lee Baly who lies about cabling something is the real question here
F Lee Bailey represented O.J Simpson. That's a part of a transcript of his cross examination of Mark Fuhrman of the LA police in OJ'S case.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._Lee_Bailey
kestral said:
F Lee Bailey represented O.J Simpson. That's a part of a transcript of his cross examination of Mark Fuhrman of the LA police in OJ'S case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._Lee_Bailey
Ah! He definitely didn't do it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._Lee_Bailey
kestral said:
Will you contact The Hon, Mr Justice Elias of the Inns of Court School of Law to tell him he is teaching his barristers the wrong cross-examination techniques information or shall I.
I know Patrick Elias quite well and he is a very fine lawyer and a great Judge but he was not a great cross examiner when at the Bar . Few advocacy trainers would agree with him on the leading point.Edited by kestral on Tuesday 10th December 20:59
kestral said:
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You can and should lead at some point a witness you are cross-examining.
Please state your advocacy credentials and let us know how many cross examinations you have conducted. Me: Over 30 years as a professional advocate. Witnesses cross examined - into the hundreds. Over to you. You can and should lead at some point a witness you are cross-examining.
Breadvan72 said:
kestral said:
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You can and should lead at some point a witness you are cross-examining.
Please state your advocacy credentials and let us know how many cross examinations you have conducted. Me: Over 30 years as a professional advocate. Witnesses cross examined - into the hundreds. Over to you. You can and should lead at some point a witness you are cross-examining.
The key cross examination techniques I picked up was do the cross examination one on one. No one else there. Then when they admit it, it turns out your police officer son was hiding and could hear. Check mate security guard. Check mate.
SmoothCriminal said:
£740 at court and god knows how much on solicitors just because freeman of the land didn't want to show his receipt.
What's that saying a fool and his money.......
I've not seen any legal experts actually comment on the validity of the case yet now the talk about an appeal, but no mention that the penalty and sentence can be increased. What's that saying a fool and his money.......
Flumpo said:
I’ve seen nearly every episode of diagnoses murder at least twice.
The key cross examination techniques I picked up was do the cross examination one on one. No one else there. Then when they admit it, it turns out your police officer son was hiding and could hear. Check mate security guard. Check mate.
You should watch law and order, it has a disclaimer with dramatic music playing at the beginning so it must be super realistic.The key cross examination techniques I picked up was do the cross examination one on one. No one else there. Then when they admit it, it turns out your police officer son was hiding and could hear. Check mate security guard. Check mate.
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