Attacked by security guard - police blaming me!
Discussion
La Liga said:
Vaud said:
La Liga said:
There are just some offences that are rarely, if ever used in the real world.
“wanton and furious driving” when applied to a bicycle? (very rare?)(section 35 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861)
La Liga said:
A charge has to be proportionate, too. It's a low-level, minor injury scuffle. We don't want busy crown courts potentially wasting their time with it via a jury trial.
I may be wrong, but I imagine the assault with intent to resist arrest would require the CPS to be consulted pre-charge. If so, why would the police want to spend hours with the CPS when a common assault is more than adequate?
Thirdly, I never saw / heard of anyone arrested / charged with assault with intent to resist arrest. There are just some offences that are rarely, if ever used in the real world.
Exactly. ABH assaults that won't attract sentencing of over 6 months are always charged as common assault as well. Nothing to read into it in the slightest. I may be wrong, but I imagine the assault with intent to resist arrest would require the CPS to be consulted pre-charge. If so, why would the police want to spend hours with the CPS when a common assault is more than adequate?
Thirdly, I never saw / heard of anyone arrested / charged with assault with intent to resist arrest. There are just some offences that are rarely, if ever used in the real world.
Bigends said:
La Liga said:
Vaud said:
La Liga said:
There are just some offences that are rarely, if ever used in the real world.
“wanton and furious driving” when applied to a bicycle? (very rare?)(section 35 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861)
La Liga said:
seem to recall there was a cyclist who killed someone and the most serious offence was that one, as another example.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/sep/...La Liga said:
Bigends said:
La Liga said:
Vaud said:
La Liga said:
There are just some offences that are rarely, if ever used in the real world.
“wanton and furious driving” when applied to a bicycle? (very rare?)(section 35 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861)
Used up in South Yorkshire on an old guy who used to take his pony and trap to the pub, then let the horse find his way home later while the old guy laid back with a skinfull.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk...
The top ten weirdest laws in Britain today
1. All beached whales and sturgeons must be offered to the Reigning Monarch
2. No person shall, in the course of a business, import into England, potatoes which he knows, or has reasonable cause to suspect, are from Poland
3. It is Illegal to be drunk in the pub
4. It is illegal to carry a plank along a pavement (as well as any ladder, wheel, pole, cask, placard, showboard, or hoop) in the Metropolitan Police District
5. MPs are not allowed to wear armour in Parliament
6. It is an offence to be drunk and in charge of cattle in England and Wales
7. It is illegal to handle a salmon in suspicious circumstances
8. It is an offence to beat or shake any carpet, rug, or mat (except door mats before 8am) in a thoroughfare in the Metropolitan Police District
9. It is illegal to jump the queue in the Tube ticket hall
10. It is illegal to activate your burglar alarm without first nominating a ‘Key-Holder’ who can switch it off in your absence
The top ten weirdest laws in Britain today
1. All beached whales and sturgeons must be offered to the Reigning Monarch
2. No person shall, in the course of a business, import into England, potatoes which he knows, or has reasonable cause to suspect, are from Poland
3. It is Illegal to be drunk in the pub
4. It is illegal to carry a plank along a pavement (as well as any ladder, wheel, pole, cask, placard, showboard, or hoop) in the Metropolitan Police District
5. MPs are not allowed to wear armour in Parliament
6. It is an offence to be drunk and in charge of cattle in England and Wales
7. It is illegal to handle a salmon in suspicious circumstances
8. It is an offence to beat or shake any carpet, rug, or mat (except door mats before 8am) in a thoroughfare in the Metropolitan Police District
9. It is illegal to jump the queue in the Tube ticket hall
10. It is illegal to activate your burglar alarm without first nominating a ‘Key-Holder’ who can switch it off in your absence
Well for a turn for the works... I get to be the victim and need the polices help again.
Last night my month old (to the day) bike was robbed. I'm not sure how they did it without setting the disk lock alarm off.
They say there are no viable lines of enquiry so just gave me a crime reference number. I suppose there is not a lot they can do. But I have been going around the local area to see if it's been ditched. Whoever did it knows what they were doing as I only found a tiny bit of the ignition barrell and a bit of plastic wrap where they have obviously hotwired it.
Those who say bad luck follows me around are starting to be totally right. On the plus side I've got the megane totally working now. I'm just waiting for the transmission oil to come and then I'll have a vehicle to use. I'm totally gutted about the scooter as I really loved it. I'm also gutted as my gloves and other stuff were in the bike. I think that will be the end of biking for me. I live in a nice area and it went in 1 month. I can't be doing with this upset.
Last night my month old (to the day) bike was robbed. I'm not sure how they did it without setting the disk lock alarm off.
They say there are no viable lines of enquiry so just gave me a crime reference number. I suppose there is not a lot they can do. But I have been going around the local area to see if it's been ditched. Whoever did it knows what they were doing as I only found a tiny bit of the ignition barrell and a bit of plastic wrap where they have obviously hotwired it.
Those who say bad luck follows me around are starting to be totally right. On the plus side I've got the megane totally working now. I'm just waiting for the transmission oil to come and then I'll have a vehicle to use. I'm totally gutted about the scooter as I really loved it. I'm also gutted as my gloves and other stuff were in the bike. I think that will be the end of biking for me. I live in a nice area and it went in 1 month. I can't be doing with this upset.
... milkround said:
Well for a turn for the works... I get to be the victim and need the polices help again.
Last night my month old (to the day) bike was robbed. I'm not sure how they did it without setting the disk lock alarm off.
They say there are no viable lines of enquiry so just gave me a crime reference number. I suppose there is not a lot they can do. But I have been going around the local area to see if it's been ditched. Whoever did it knows what they were doing as I only found a tiny bit of the ignition barrell and a bit of plastic wrap where they have obviously hotwired it.
Those who say bad luck follows me around are starting to be totally right. On the plus side I've got the megane totally working now. I'm just waiting for the transmission oil to come and then I'll have a vehicle to use. I'm totally gutted about the scooter as I really loved it. I'm also gutted as my gloves and other stuff were in the bike. I think that will be the end of biking for me. I live in a nice area and it went in 1 month. I can't be doing with this upset.
What's happening with the security guard situation?Last night my month old (to the day) bike was robbed. I'm not sure how they did it without setting the disk lock alarm off.
They say there are no viable lines of enquiry so just gave me a crime reference number. I suppose there is not a lot they can do. But I have been going around the local area to see if it's been ditched. Whoever did it knows what they were doing as I only found a tiny bit of the ignition barrell and a bit of plastic wrap where they have obviously hotwired it.
Those who say bad luck follows me around are starting to be totally right. On the plus side I've got the megane totally working now. I'm just waiting for the transmission oil to come and then I'll have a vehicle to use. I'm totally gutted about the scooter as I really loved it. I'm also gutted as my gloves and other stuff were in the bike. I think that will be the end of biking for me. I live in a nice area and it went in 1 month. I can't be doing with this upset.
johnwilliams77 said:
What's happening with the security guard situation?
Not a lot. Still got court in a couple of weeks. Still got no CCTV from the supermarket. I'm starting to think the first time I'll get the CCTV is when I have a trial. I could chase them up but it doesn't seem like a priority at the moment (I've had car problems, job problems, moved into a new home and now I've had my bike nicked).
Tbh I could do without it. But I have to deal with this mess so I will do so.
To be honest OP, if it's gone down as you claim and I've no reason to think otherwise, well done!
Serioulsy, well done for standing up for your rights and all that.
I'd have whimped out long, long ago, but in my heart of hearts, I'd like to think I be brave enough to stand up for my rights.
Not that it means much, but hope it works out!
Serioulsy, well done for standing up for your rights and all that.
I'd have whimped out long, long ago, but in my heart of hearts, I'd like to think I be brave enough to stand up for my rights.
Not that it means much, but hope it works out!
milkround said:
Still got no CCTV from the supermarket. I'm starting to think the first time I'll get the CCTV is when I have a trial. I could chase them up but it doesn't seem like a priority at the moment
Surely it would take 2 minutes (about as long as it takes to post on PH) to fire a quick email to them asking what's happening with the request.The ICO website is clear - organisations have one month to respond to SARs. This can be extended by a further 2 months but they must let you know in the first month that there will be a delay and explain why.
As someone who takes their civil liberties very seriously I'm surprised you aren't all over this breach of your rights
Cat
Edited by Cat on Thursday 16th May 20:55
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