Parking fine assistance (yay!)
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Hi Guys
Parking fine received - was at customer site in Birmingham (Harvester in Sutton Coldfield managed by EuroCarParks)
Paid for 2hr parking on machine
Was 2hr30 (my mistake)
Car is registered and owned by my Mrs so letter was written to her, but I was driver as I use it.
They are charging £50 rising to £85 if not paid
My mistake for slipping over by 30 minutes. Don't think it's fair to pay the £85 fine for the sake of an extra 30 minutes.
Any assistance? I am going through a lot of s
te at the moment and happily admit I would like some major assistance rather than being told to "go look on pepipoo" as I don't want to spend hours and hours trying to fight it.
Parking fine received - was at customer site in Birmingham (Harvester in Sutton Coldfield managed by EuroCarParks)
Paid for 2hr parking on machine
Was 2hr30 (my mistake)
Car is registered and owned by my Mrs so letter was written to her, but I was driver as I use it.
They are charging £50 rising to £85 if not paid
My mistake for slipping over by 30 minutes. Don't think it's fair to pay the £85 fine for the sake of an extra 30 minutes.
Any assistance? I am going through a lot of s
te at the moment and happily admit I would like some major assistance rather than being told to "go look on pepipoo" as I don't want to spend hours and hours trying to fight it. Edited by xjay1337 on Thursday 13th June 12:02
S11Steve said:
Harvester is part of the Mitchells & Butlers chain who appointed ECP last year to "manage" their parking across most of the 2000 ish sites.
The easiest route is to speak to the pub manager - they can, and frequently do cancel tickets for their customers.
Slight issue there - I wasn't a customer of the pub. I went to an office across the road. Simply paid for the parking!The easiest route is to speak to the pub manager - they can, and frequently do cancel tickets for their customers.
If not then your missus can reply saying she was not the driver so not liable (exception-see below)
Don't name the driver, simply say "the driver did this", no need to say your name or "my husband"
Exception is if Notice to Keeper is POFA compliant, which would be unusual even now after 7 years practice
Even then there are arguments against the charge (NOT a fine)S11Steve us the expert here but try the manger first,after all, the longer you're in a place,the more money you spend
Don't name the driver, simply say "the driver did this", no need to say your name or "my husband"
Exception is if Notice to Keeper is POFA compliant, which would be unusual even now after 7 years practice
Even then there are arguments against the charge (NOT a fine)S11Steve us the expert here but try the manger first,after all, the longer you're in a place,the more money you spend
kowalski655 said:
If not then your missus can reply saying she was not the driver so not liable (exception-see below)
Don't name the driver, simply say "the driver did this", no need to say your name or "my husband"
Exception is if Notice to Keeper is POFA compliant, which would be unusual even now after 7 years practice
Even then there are arguments against the charge (NOT a fine)S11Steve us the expert here but try the manger first,after all, the longer you're in a place,the more money you spend
Can do that, is there a template letter about? Don't name the driver, simply say "the driver did this", no need to say your name or "my husband"
Exception is if Notice to Keeper is POFA compliant, which would be unusual even now after 7 years practice
Even then there are arguments against the charge (NOT a fine)S11Steve us the expert here but try the manger first,after all, the longer you're in a place,the more money you spend
xjay1337 said:
Hi Guys
Parking fine received - was at customer site in Birmingham (Harvester in Sutton Coldfield managed by EuroCarParks)
Paid for 2hr parking on machine
Was 2hr30 (my mistake)
Car is registered and owned by my Mrs so letter was written to her, but I was driver as I use it.
They are charging £50 rising to £85 if not paid
My mistake for slipping over by 30 minutes. Don't think it's fair to pay the £85 fine for the sake of an extra 30 minutes.
Any assistance? I am going through a lot of ste at the moment and happily admit I would like some major assistance rather than being told to "go look on pepipoo" as I don't want to spend hours and hours trying to fight it.
Isn't it only £50 not £85?Parking fine received - was at customer site in Birmingham (Harvester in Sutton Coldfield managed by EuroCarParks)
Paid for 2hr parking on machine
Was 2hr30 (my mistake)
Car is registered and owned by my Mrs so letter was written to her, but I was driver as I use it.
They are charging £50 rising to £85 if not paid
My mistake for slipping over by 30 minutes. Don't think it's fair to pay the £85 fine for the sake of an extra 30 minutes.
Any assistance? I am going through a lot of s
te at the moment and happily admit I would like some major assistance rather than being told to "go look on pepipoo" as I don't want to spend hours and hours trying to fight it. Edited by xjay1337 on Thursday 13th June 12:02
xjay1337 said:
KungFuPanda said:
Yeah on Pepipoo.
Lol. A link would be appreciated. www.pepipoo.com
Put a new thread in the private parking thread
Couple of pointers
1)As previously mentioned DO NOT mentioned the driver by name
2) DO NOT contact the PPC until the guys on pepipoo have had a look at it
3) Do EXACTLY as they say , these guys have a good track record at getting these overturned,.
4) DONT assume you know more than them ..you dont
If they say you are bang to rights..accept it. ..if they say there is a good chance ,follow them
5) DO NOT expect them to spoonfeed you, they expect you to look up similar cases ,and write your own case reply
However they will tell you what not to put and what tpo say
6) they are all unpaid volunteers and also deal with Council fines (what you have is an invoice) esp Yellow box infractions
There is also a site on MSE but a lot of them also post on pepipoo
They cannot guarentte a golden get out but will make the PPC jumps through hoops to get their money if necessary
I
Put a new thread in the private parking thread
Couple of pointers
1)As previously mentioned DO NOT mentioned the driver by name
2) DO NOT contact the PPC until the guys on pepipoo have had a look at it
3) Do EXACTLY as they say , these guys have a good track record at getting these overturned,.
4) DONT assume you know more than them ..you dont
If they say you are bang to rights..accept it. ..if they say there is a good chance ,follow them
5) DO NOT expect them to spoonfeed you, they expect you to look up similar cases ,and write your own case reply
However they will tell you what not to put and what tpo say
6) they are all unpaid volunteers and also deal with Council fines (what you have is an invoice) esp Yellow box infractions
There is also a site on MSE but a lot of them also post on pepipoo
They cannot guarentte a golden get out but will make the PPC jumps through hoops to get their money if necessary
I
I think if these car park management companies took a more pragmatic approach they wouldn't be so vilified and most people would pay up.
Maybe a system where if you're over by 30 mins you pay for the extra hour + a £10 admin fee for the letter, most people would think fair one and pay up.
I guess that's not profitable enough though
Maybe a system where if you're over by 30 mins you pay for the extra hour + a £10 admin fee for the letter, most people would think fair one and pay up.
I guess that's not profitable enough though
ChocolateFrog said:
I think if these car park management companies took a more pragmatic approach they wouldn't be so vilified and most people would pay up.
Maybe a system where if you're over by 30 mins you pay for the extra hour + a £10 admin fee for the letter, most people would think fair one and pay up.
I guess that's not profitable enough though
I think you have hit the nail on the head.Maybe a system where if you're over by 30 mins you pay for the extra hour + a £10 admin fee for the letter, most people would think fair one and pay up.
I guess that's not profitable enough though
Sheer greed on the part of PPC. If they only charged £10 per breach no-one would even bother appealing
pavarotti1980 said:
I think you have hit the nail on the head.
Sheer greed on the part of PPC. If they only charged £10 per breach no-one would even bother appealing
Yeah and of course there’s little penalty for the blagger to worry about so well worth changing it as much as possible. A penalty needs to be sufficiently worrying enough to deter people from chancing it. Sheer greed on the part of PPC. If they only charged £10 per breach no-one would even bother appealing
Years ago as a poor low level worker, I used to blag the Tube every day on my way to work because the penalty was if caught I had to pay the full fare and that was it. No penalty at all. When they introduced a hefty on the spot fine then I altered my behaviour.
Someone will now no doubt miss the point and bang on about railway bylaws and invoices when that’s clearly not what I’m talking about.
anonymous said:
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I was waiting for the sanctimonious post to come..Unfortunately this over ran, a mistake - genuinely didn't expect to go anywhere near the 2 hours let alone over stay by 30 minutes to configure a couple of phones - however there were some technical problems, In the heat of the moment trying to resolve time was lost track of.
I don't think £50 is fair fine for exceeding the permitted time fo 2 hours, especially from a PPC - I've had a couple of tickets before, one from a council, failure to pay and display (genuine mistake, didn't realise, £30, fair enough, I paid no questions).
The other, from an office in Liverpool. Obvious scam , typical PPC crap, my work just said don't waste time arguing it and we just billed it to the customer.
As was said above if the fine was more reasonable I would take it on the chin. Plus my general hatred towards PPCs in general means if I can avoid having to give the b
ds any money then I will. V10leptoquark said:
kowalski655 said:
If not then your missus can reply saying she was not the driver so not liable (exception-see below)
Happy to be corrected but doesn't the current legislation give power to the PPCs to pursue the registered keeper if the driver con not be identified?Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff