Worth reporting this 'driver'?
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VeeFource said:
Are you for real?
With people like you on the road then yes. I do it all the time. My record is just under 3 miles and hundreds of cars all because idiots can't seem to grasp the concept of 4 lanes. It seems to blow the little fuzzy minds. VeeFource said:
I wanted to overtake but couldn't as there were no more lanes. It deosn't mean I should move into the middle lane to let the miles of cars behind pass me or undertake everyone in front like the idiot in the van.
This just proves my previous point. You and the fellow idiots are petrified of being overtaken and want to go faster so you form long trains of cars all thinking they are right. You weren't overtaking anything, just intending to. Did it ever occur to you that the reason why you couldn't go any faster was because countless other mindless cretins were ahead of you all thinking how right they were to stay in the outside lane because they wanted to go quicker? No wonder the country has gone to the dogs. We can't even get lane control right.
Pull over if you aren't overtaking. Undertake or move lanes when you are able.
RogerDodger said:
VeeFource said:
Yeah you got me. I queue up just like all those other dastardly patient people instead of discerningly weaving through gaps across all lanes. What a hero you are..
Dude, it's NOT A QUEUE.You have space on your left. If you can't make progress, move left. If everyone treated lane 3 as a "queue" in heavy traffic, lanes 1 & 2 would be empty for miles, with just three cars all abreast at the very front.
Only problem you then get is foreign trucks doing 70 in the 50mph sections
FWIW said:
RogerDodger said:
Dude, it's NOT A QUEUE.
You have space on your left. If you can't make progress, move left. If everyone treated lane 3 as a "queue" in heavy traffic, lanes 1 & 2 would be empty for miles, with just three cars all abreast at the very front.
That’s exactly what happens! You have space on your left. If you can't make progress, move left. If everyone treated lane 3 as a "queue" in heavy traffic, lanes 1 & 2 would be empty for miles, with just three cars all abreast at the very front.
ghost83 said:
You haven’t though you’ve just said you were in a queue of traffic that doesn’t mean you or them can break the rules! You don’t own or police the lane! When you have overtaken you and anyone else must move to the left then indicate and pull out to overtake again! I do 1500 miles per week I see it all the time but it doesn’t make it right! Post the video if you think you’re in the right and I will bet anything there’s more to it! So I emplore you! Post the video
It’s probably worth taking this apart so you understand.In an ideal world, everyone would do precisely what you say, and everyone would have the same view of what constitutes a safe distance between them and the car in front. Traffic would sinuously weave between lanes, magically allowing people to progress at high speed in the outside lane.
But we don’t live in the real world.
First major difference out there is that people’s view of the correct separation distance is radically different. Some people think that if they can see road between them and the car in front, that’s safe. Others try and leave a sensible distance.
Second difference is that we all have different views on what “clear” in the left hand lane means. Some people think it is acceptable to drive on the right hand side, well, forever. At the other extreme, some people think that if there is a car length on your left hand side, you should force your way into it. My view is that I’m not going to cut up the car I’ve just overtaken, and I’m not going to subject myself to taking immediate avoiding action in respect of the car in front of that. So no, I’m not going to pull over and hit the brakes just so you can get past. I’m going to wait for a gap long enough to pull in and carry on at my selected speed for you to get past.
The logical absurdity of your position is that under your rules, no one can be in the outside lane unless the motorway is utterly rammed. If the OP should have pulled over, so should the van. This is not how motorways work.
Overall:
- The van driver should not have pulled in in front of the OP. That was unnecessary, dangerous, and according to your rules, wrong.
- The OP might have been better off in L2, but you’d need to see the video - closing speeds are all important in this discussion
- The idea of effectively queueing to overtake something in L2 happens all the time on motorways. 90% of people get it right, some get it wrong by refusing to let people in, or pulling barging stunts like that van.
- The OP shouldn’t report the van driver, being a van driver is punishment enough.
Good call. Time to take a final (probably) bowFWIW said:
JimSuperSix said:
Funny thing is every single one of the usual OP-bashing fools (that KNOW exactly what happened from 1 static pic) daily do just what they are berating the OP for supposedly doing. None of them would have moved to the centre lane in that queue, they all would have been equally annoyed when van-man did what he did, and they all would have accelerated to close the gap also.
But as usual it makes them feel big (and probably semi-hard) to bash the OP.
Pathetic.
:lol: not only are you wrong, you’re also pathetic. But as usual it makes them feel big (and probably semi-hard) to bash the OP.
Pathetic.
oops, touched a nerve there 
FWIW said:
RogerDodger said:
Dude, it's NOT A QUEUE.
You have space on your left. If you can't make progress, move left. If everyone treated lane 3 as a "queue" in heavy traffic, lanes 1 & 2 would be empty for miles, with just three cars all abreast at the very front.
That’s exactly what happens! You have space on your left. If you can't make progress, move left. If everyone treated lane 3 as a "queue" in heavy traffic, lanes 1 & 2 would be empty for miles, with just three cars all abreast at the very front.
s that hog the middle lane forcing everyone (bar the dangerous undertakers that seem to be posting here today) to have to squeeze past in the outside lane. And if it's not them it's the mindless cretins that hog the outside lane when it's clear to pull in and there's nothing in front of them.What you and a few other incredibly thick people can't seem to get your head around is that being in the outside lane a safe distance behind someone in front is not lane hogging irrespective of what's happening in the lane to the left. It is lane hogging when it's clear in front and clear to the left.
It really isn't that hard to work out...
VeeFource said:
Totally wrong. The cause of everyone bunching up in the outside lane is mostly the selfish s that hog the middle lane forcing everyone (bar the dangerous undertakers that seem to be posting here today) to have to squeeze past in the outside lane. And if it's not them it's the mindless cretins that hog the outside lane when it's clear to pull in and there's nothing in front of them.
What you and a few other incredibly thick people can't seem to get your head around is that being in the outside lane a safe distance behind someone in front is not lane hogging irrespective of what's happening in the lane to the left. It is lane hogging when it's clear in front and clear to the left.
It really isn't that hard to work out...
But the middle lane was clear hence WVM using it to undertake you.s that hog the middle lane forcing everyone (bar the dangerous undertakers that seem to be posting here today) to have to squeeze past in the outside lane. And if it's not them it's the mindless cretins that hog the outside lane when it's clear to pull in and there's nothing in front of them.What you and a few other incredibly thick people can't seem to get your head around is that being in the outside lane a safe distance behind someone in front is not lane hogging irrespective of what's happening in the lane to the left. It is lane hogging when it's clear in front and clear to the left.
It really isn't that hard to work out...
Engelberger said:
This just proves my previous point. You and the fellow idiots are petrified of being overtaken and want to go faster so you form long trains of cars all thinking they are right. You weren't overtaking anything, just intending to. Did it ever occur to you that the reason why you couldn't go any faster was because countless other mindless cretins were ahead of you all thinking how right they were to stay in the outside lane because they wanted to go quicker?
No wonder the country has gone to the dogs. We can't even get lane control right.
Pull over if you aren't overtaking. Undertake or move lanes when you are able.
How does your perfect mind cope with "Stay in lane" matrix signs when the lane to your left is clear? I bet you have a fNo wonder the country has gone to the dogs. We can't even get lane control right.
Pull over if you aren't overtaking. Undertake or move lanes when you are able.
king annuerism.FWIW said:
RogerDodger said:
Dude, it's NOT A QUEUE.
You have space on your left. If you can't make progress, move left. If everyone treated lane 3 as a "queue" in heavy traffic, lanes 1 & 2 would be empty for miles, with just three cars all abreast at the very front.
That’s exactly what happens! You have space on your left. If you can't make progress, move left. If everyone treated lane 3 as a "queue" in heavy traffic, lanes 1 & 2 would be empty for miles, with just three cars all abreast at the very front.
So the best approach is to remain neatly in lane 2 or 3 until you are past the slower vehicles and there is a gap large enough to make moving over worthwhile, not dart around all over the place just because you could potentially fit your car in there for a few seconds.
This is what happens in the real world, not the sanctimonious made-up world many posters want you to believe they live in, because they are better than you.
Monkeylegend said:
VeeFource said:
Totally wrong. The cause of everyone bunching up in the outside lane is mostly the selfish s that hog the middle lane forcing everyone (bar the dangerous undertakers that seem to be posting here today) to have to squeeze past in the outside lane. And if it's not them it's the mindless cretins that hog the outside lane when it's clear to pull in and there's nothing in front of them.
What you and a few other incredibly thick people can't seem to get your head around is that being in the outside lane a safe distance behind someone in front is not lane hogging irrespective of what's happening in the lane to the left. It is lane hogging when it's clear in front and clear to the left.
It really isn't that hard to work out...
But the middle lane was clear hence WVM using it to undertake you.s that hog the middle lane forcing everyone (bar the dangerous undertakers that seem to be posting here today) to have to squeeze past in the outside lane. And if it's not them it's the mindless cretins that hog the outside lane when it's clear to pull in and there's nothing in front of them.What you and a few other incredibly thick people can't seem to get your head around is that being in the outside lane a safe distance behind someone in front is not lane hogging irrespective of what's happening in the lane to the left. It is lane hogging when it's clear in front and clear to the left.
It really isn't that hard to work out...
Monkeylegend said:
But the middle lane was clear hence WVM using it to undertake you.
Read it again.Middle lane clear is only one out of two things needed to make it mean that I was hogging the outside lane. What did he then do when he undertook me?... he pulled back into my lane, thereby assuming my previous position on the road. And the reason he did that is because being in the middle lane is not the right lane to be in if you want to get past that chunk of traffic. So it then comes back to my original question of why did he deserve to be in my previous position more than I did?
I'll give you the answer (because you'll almost certainly need it); He didn't, because I was in that position first and I was not lane hogging.
JimSuperSix said:
Monkeylegend said:
VeeFource said:
Totally wrong. The cause of everyone bunching up in the outside lane is mostly the selfish s that hog the middle lane forcing everyone (bar the dangerous undertakers that seem to be posting here today) to have to squeeze past in the outside lane. And if it's not them it's the mindless cretins that hog the outside lane when it's clear to pull in and there's nothing in front of them.
What you and a few other incredibly thick people can't seem to get your head around is that being in the outside lane a safe distance behind someone in front is not lane hogging irrespective of what's happening in the lane to the left. It is lane hogging when it's clear in front and clear to the left.
It really isn't that hard to work out...
But the middle lane was clear hence WVM using it to undertake you.s that hog the middle lane forcing everyone (bar the dangerous undertakers that seem to be posting here today) to have to squeeze past in the outside lane. And if it's not them it's the mindless cretins that hog the outside lane when it's clear to pull in and there's nothing in front of them.What you and a few other incredibly thick people can't seem to get your head around is that being in the outside lane a safe distance behind someone in front is not lane hogging irrespective of what's happening in the lane to the left. It is lane hogging when it's clear in front and clear to the left.
It really isn't that hard to work out...
I would wager WVM was reacting to the OP's driving over a longer period than we have knowledge of.
OP might be able to prove this to be wrong by showing the footage building up to the undertake.
Don't you just love all this wild speculation, PH is very good at it
JimSuperSix said:
Of course its a queue - its a queue to get past the slower moving vehicles ahead in lanes 1 and 2. Guess what happens if you moved left every time there was a car sized gap in the middle lane queue - the car behind will accelerate to fill the gap you just vacated and 5 seconds later when you come up behind the next car in lane 2 you are stuck there and have to force your way back out into lane 3 because nobody will ever let you out, which then leads to road rage, vehicles too close, braking and accelerating etc.
So the best approach is to remain neatly in lane 2 or 3 until you are past the slower vehicles and there is a gap large enough to make moving over worthwhile, not dart around all over the place just because you could potentially fit your car in there for a few seconds.
This is what happens in the real world, not the sanctimonious made-up world many posters want you to believe they live in, because they are better than you.
Be careful spouting all that common sense on here. There seems a disturbing number of posters without any So the best approach is to remain neatly in lane 2 or 3 until you are past the slower vehicles and there is a gap large enough to make moving over worthwhile, not dart around all over the place just because you could potentially fit your car in there for a few seconds.
This is what happens in the real world, not the sanctimonious made-up world many posters want you to believe they live in, because they are better than you.
On the plus side it's seeming more likely it's just one idiot with a few accounts.VeeFource said:
Read it again.
Middle lane clear is only one out of two things needed to make it mean that I was hogging the outside lane. What did he then do when he undertook me?... he pulled back into my lane, thereby assuming my previous position on the road. And the reason he did that is because being in the middle lane is not the right lane to be in if you want to get past that chunk of traffic. So it then comes back to my original question of why did he deserve to be in my previous position more than I did?
I'll give you the answer (because you'll almost certainly need it); He didn't, because I was in that position first and I was not lane hogging.
Does it really irk you that much that he got in front of you? I bet you speeded up to block the undertake although you will say you didn't.Middle lane clear is only one out of two things needed to make it mean that I was hogging the outside lane. What did he then do when he undertook me?... he pulled back into my lane, thereby assuming my previous position on the road. And the reason he did that is because being in the middle lane is not the right lane to be in if you want to get past that chunk of traffic. So it then comes back to my original question of why did he deserve to be in my previous position more than I did?
I'll give you the answer (because you'll almost certainly need it); He didn't, because I was in that position first and I was not lane hogging.
I bet you don't like people parking outside your house either
Monkeylegend said:
Does it really irk you that much that he got in front of you? I bet you speeded up to block the undertake although you will say you didn't.
I bet you don't like people parking outside your house either
Does it irk you having to resort to meaningless speculation as you don't have a rational counterargument?I bet you don't like people parking outside your house either
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