Apparently I've been jumping red lights forever
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Pica-Pica said:
The Traffic Signs Manual seems to require them (chapter 5)
Not for temporary road works or part time signals and of course we always have:Meaning of 'stop line'
(3) Where there is no stop line or the stop line is not visible, references to “stop line” are—
(a) in a case where a sign provided for at item 58, 59 or 60 of the Part 2 sign table is placed, to be treated as references to that sign; and
(b) in any other case, to be treated as references to the post or other structure on which the primary signals (within the meaning of paragraph 31) are mounted.
Edited by Graveworm on Sunday 21st July 23:52
Graveworm said:
Pica-Pica said:
The Traffic Signs Manual seems to require them (chapter 5)
Not for temporary road works or part time signals and of course we always have:Meaning of 'stop line'
(3) Where there is no stop line or the stop line is not visible, references to “stop line” are—
(a) in a case where a sign provided for at item 58, 59 or 60 of the Part 2 sign table is placed, to be treated as references to that sign; and
(b) in any other case, to be treated as references to the post or other structure on which the primary signals (within the meaning of paragraph 31) are mounted.
Edited by Graveworm on Sunday 21st July 23:52
Why go on the change? Wait for it to be green.
Worst that can happen is some muppet gets irate with you, in which case, f
k 'em. If they wanted to go on red/amber, they should have been at the front when the lights changed.
Given the number of people I see go through those absolutely-taking-the-piss-been-solid-red-for-several-seconds kind of reds, trying to get the jump on traffic and set off early will very soon see some knobend bury their car in your door.
Worst that can happen is some muppet gets irate with you, in which case, f
k 'em. If they wanted to go on red/amber, they should have been at the front when the lights changed.Given the number of people I see go through those absolutely-taking-the-piss-been-solid-red-for-several-seconds kind of reds, trying to get the jump on traffic and set off early will very soon see some knobend bury their car in your door.
over_the_hill said:
This. I see it on a daily basis (literally) and it isn't just marginal with amber just going red. It will be red for a few seconds and traffic continues to drive through. I have even seen a car stop at red and the car behind has puled out and driven round them and through the lights.
This is definitely on the increase along with people thinking it's ok to listen to music sans headphones in public. Was on a ped crossing yesterday. Lights for cars had gone red, pedestrians on green.
Girlfriend is come on let's cross.
Something held me back. Car about 50 yards away isn't slowing. Straight through red despite some pedestrians crossing.
I'm seeing people blatantly going through reds all the time these days.
Guy at 4 way junction went straight through a red last week and even stuck 2 fingers up at the green traffic screeching to a halt.
Be careful out there folks.
croyde said:
This is definitely on the increase along with people thinking it's ok to listen to music sans headphones in public.
Was on a ped crossing yesterday. Lights for cars had gone red, pedestrians on green.
Girlfriend is come on let's cross.
Something held me back. Car about 50 yards away isn't slowing. Straight through red despite some pedestrians crossing.
I'm seeing people blatantly going through reds all the time these days.
Guy at 4 way junction went straight through a red last week and even stuck 2 fingers up at the green traffic screeching to a halt.
Be careful out there folks.
If it was up to me, a double tap to the head would be the way to deal with those idiots.Was on a ped crossing yesterday. Lights for cars had gone red, pedestrians on green.
Girlfriend is come on let's cross.
Something held me back. Car about 50 yards away isn't slowing. Straight through red despite some pedestrians crossing.
I'm seeing people blatantly going through reds all the time these days.
Guy at 4 way junction went straight through a red last week and even stuck 2 fingers up at the green traffic screeching to a halt.
Be careful out there folks.
croyde said:
This is definitely on the increase along with people thinking it's ok to listen to music sans headphones in public.
Was on a ped crossing yesterday. Lights for cars had gone red, pedestrians on green.
Girlfriend is come on let's cross.
Something held me back. Car about 50 yards away isn't slowing. Straight through red despite some pedestrians crossing.
I'm seeing people blatantly going through reds all the time these days.
Guy at 4 way junction went straight through a red last week and even stuck 2 fingers up at the green traffic screeching to a halt.
Be careful out there folks.
I also have seen it increase in London. Not the usual lack of observation or squeezing through at the end of the phase but waiting and going. To my, statistically irrelevant, eyes there has been an evolution, cycles, then mopeds, then M/Cycles and now cars. It could be observed behaviour by a new generation of motorists. Same with pavements except, of course, fewer cars on pavements. Was on a ped crossing yesterday. Lights for cars had gone red, pedestrians on green.
Girlfriend is come on let's cross.
Something held me back. Car about 50 yards away isn't slowing. Straight through red despite some pedestrians crossing.
I'm seeing people blatantly going through reds all the time these days.
Guy at 4 way junction went straight through a red last week and even stuck 2 fingers up at the green traffic screeching to a halt.
Be careful out there folks.
JungTheForeman said:
For reference the clip in question is this: https://youtu.be/gHXsXP1OXqI?t=104
The sequencing of those lights seems off, usually a light will turn red then there's at least a second gap before the next set of lights turn amber, with the ones in that clip it looks like both lights are on amber at the same time.OP - Ive found a thread that may just help you, in fact may save your life and others - thank me later.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Have a read - he too had a BMW that was a bit twitchy and interesting views on car control/driving.
Perhaps there is a common theme with you?
You know a common link.....?
something that joins both drivers skills together...…?
like fish n chips there is a link....can you guess what it is?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Have a read - he too had a BMW that was a bit twitchy and interesting views on car control/driving.
Perhaps there is a common theme with you?
You know a common link.....?
something that joins both drivers skills together...…?
like fish n chips there is a link....can you guess what it is?
Edited by superlightr on Monday 22 July 13:03
Edited by superlightr on Monday 22 July 13:05
JungTheForeman said:
For reference the clip in question is this: https://youtu.be/gHXsXP1OXqI?t=104
Typical dashcam warrior, accelerating into a situation just so they can sound their horn and record a clip.Reminds me of this old joke:
[i]I was getting a taxi from the airport to the hotel.
We were coming to a red light, and the taxi driver shoots right through it. I ask him, "Why'd you do that?" He tells me this is how his brother drives.
We come to another red light, and again, he shoots right through it. I ask him, "Why'd you do that?" Again, he tells me this is how his brother drives.
We come to a green light, and he slams on the brakes. I nearly hit the windscreen, "Why do you do that?!"
He replied, "You never know, my brother could be coming the other way."[/i]
[i]I was getting a taxi from the airport to the hotel.
We were coming to a red light, and the taxi driver shoots right through it. I ask him, "Why'd you do that?" He tells me this is how his brother drives.
We come to another red light, and again, he shoots right through it. I ask him, "Why'd you do that?" Again, he tells me this is how his brother drives.
We come to a green light, and he slams on the brakes. I nearly hit the windscreen, "Why do you do that?!"
He replied, "You never know, my brother could be coming the other way."[/i]
Edited by speedking31 on Monday 22 July 19:28
Reminds me of the time I'd been to a party and had far too many drinks so decided to take a taxi home. Just as well I did as we came across a police road block stopping all the cars. Being in a taxi they just waved us through and we got home safely.
The problem is we've still got the bloody taxi on the drive, I've no idea where I got it from so if anyone is missing a taxi please do PM me.
The problem is we've still got the bloody taxi on the drive, I've no idea where I got it from so if anyone is missing a taxi please do PM me.
InitialDave said:
Why go on the change? Wait for it to be green.
Worst that can happen is some muppet gets irate with you, in which case, fk 'em. If they wanted to go on red/amber, they should have been at the front when the lights changed.
Given the number of people I see go through those absolutely-taking-the-piss-been-solid-red-for-several-seconds kind of reds, trying to get the jump on traffic and set off early will very soon see some knobend bury their car in your door.
I've been driving for over 50 years and there must be very little I haven't seen. You learn not to put yourself in dangerous situations.Worst that can happen is some muppet gets irate with you, in which case, f
k 'em. If they wanted to go on red/amber, they should have been at the front when the lights changed.Given the number of people I see go through those absolutely-taking-the-piss-been-solid-red-for-several-seconds kind of reds, trying to get the jump on traffic and set off early will very soon see some knobend bury their car in your door.
Being at the front of the queue at a red light is such a situation. I never assume there will be nobody coming the other way just because my light has gone green. In fact, if there are two lanes waiting, I hold back when the lights change and let the car next to me go across in advance. If one of us has to collect a red light jumper I would rather it wasn't me.
InitialDave said:
Why go on the change? Wait for it to be green......
"Traffic light Grand Prix" start - Where there are two or more lanes, and someone wants to use an "incorrect" lane, to get ahead of a long queue of cars in the "correct" lane.Launching off the line on amber gives the driver in the "incorrect" lane, a better chance of jumping the queue in the "correct" lane, and avoiding a collision when they move into the "correct" lane.
(Unless of course, the driver in the "correct" lane launches at the same time - then the driver in the "incorrect" lane is pretty much f
ked )See it all the time where I live.
Roofless Toothless said:
Being at the front of the queue at a red light is such a situation. I never assume there will be nobody coming the other way just because my light has gone green. In fact, if there are two lanes waiting, I hold back when the lights change and let the car next to me go across in advance. If one of us has to collect a red light jumper I would rather it wasn't me.
This is sound advice, and I do the same. Especially where it's a blind junction. There is a blind traffic-light junction near me where the opposing traffic is at the bottom of a downhill slip off a motorway, and I always wait longer there, but the driver behind me doesn't understand. Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff