Should you be allowed to recline seat if big person behind?
Discussion
A z-listerfor those who don’t know, large woman stops a person from reclining their seat on a economy flight.
What’s your thoughts? I seem to remember that when this has been discussed before on here the consensus was you paid, they’ve made the function available, you’re allowed to do it. But - I’ve never heard of the person behind actually stopping the person in front from doing it, it’s always been a theoretical discussion until now.
To make it worse I think she was actually just complaining that the woman in front was simply moving about which makes the seat move! So not even reclined!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7372...
What’s your thoughts? I seem to remember that when this has been discussed before on here the consensus was you paid, they’ve made the function available, you’re allowed to do it. But - I’ve never heard of the person behind actually stopping the person in front from doing it, it’s always been a theoretical discussion until now.
To make it worse I think she was actually just complaining that the woman in front was simply moving about which makes the seat move! So not even reclined!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7372...
Never recline in economy. It's just not cricket. As someone who sadly spends far too much time in BA short-haul economy seats I have observed this is generally only done by self-centred 'entitled' types.
Edit - just looked at the article - how come such a big* celebrity was in the back with the plebs anyway?
* Yes, pun intended
Edit - just looked at the article - how come such a big* celebrity was in the back with the plebs anyway?
* Yes, pun intended
Edited by LimaDelta on Tuesday 20th August 09:57
(For the record, I'm a very tall person, who barely fits in Economy seats, due to leg length.)
If the seat is able to recline, you can use it. You've paid for the seat, so you can use it. It's pretty simple really.
Those who are decent human beings, however, will consider the impact of their actions on their fellow travellers. But not a lot of people do. There is a simple rule to life, that if everyone followed, would eradicate almost all of the problems in the world.
Be considerate.
(You can re-write this as "Don't be a dick" or "Don't be a tt" but the use of gender specific genitalia may offend.)
If the seat is able to recline, you can use it. You've paid for the seat, so you can use it. It's pretty simple really.
Those who are decent human beings, however, will consider the impact of their actions on their fellow travellers. But not a lot of people do. There is a simple rule to life, that if everyone followed, would eradicate almost all of the problems in the world.
Be considerate.
(You can re-write this as "Don't be a dick" or "Don't be a tt" but the use of gender specific genitalia may offend.)
Consideration is the key. If someone reclines a seat into my limited space, that is "my space" so I have the right to continually tap out Under Pressure on the back of their seat or the tray because that's "my tray".
Fortunately, most cattle class planes have abolished it and, in fairness, I can't recall the last time anyone was that inconsiderate.
Fortunately, most cattle class planes have abolished it and, in fairness, I can't recall the last time anyone was that inconsiderate.
I think it is inconsiderate.
However, I have another query about economy etiquette. I booked an aisle seat, on purpose, for a recent flight London to Edinburgh. It was the row right at the back. I boarded and sat down, and a very tall man appeared (must have been over 6ft5) who had the window seat. As this was the back seat, there was no window. He asked if he could sit on the aisle seat as he was tall. I said no, I had paid for an aisle seat (I am not as tall as him, but I am not short - 5ft11 - and did not want to sit on the inside with no window). He moaned and then made a big scene of squeezing himself in to the seat, apologising to the women in the middle who his legs were touching (he eventually found a way not to be touching) and generally made a big deal about being uncomfortable for the (relatively short) flight.
Am I the dick? In my mind, if you are very tall you should specifically book extra leg room. It is an option for a reason ... (I suspect he booked onto the flight late hence why on the last row, but not my problem).
However, I have another query about economy etiquette. I booked an aisle seat, on purpose, for a recent flight London to Edinburgh. It was the row right at the back. I boarded and sat down, and a very tall man appeared (must have been over 6ft5) who had the window seat. As this was the back seat, there was no window. He asked if he could sit on the aisle seat as he was tall. I said no, I had paid for an aisle seat (I am not as tall as him, but I am not short - 5ft11 - and did not want to sit on the inside with no window). He moaned and then made a big scene of squeezing himself in to the seat, apologising to the women in the middle who his legs were touching (he eventually found a way not to be touching) and generally made a big deal about being uncomfortable for the (relatively short) flight.
Am I the dick? In my mind, if you are very tall you should specifically book extra leg room. It is an option for a reason ... (I suspect he booked onto the flight late hence why on the last row, but not my problem).
All this "I think is is inconsiderate" is utter bull.
The seats have a recline facility. That makes the seating slightly more bearable for most. If some inconsiderate chump refuses to recline their seat they are making it less comfortable for the majority. If everyone reclined their seats all "personal space" would remain the same as it is if they remained upright (perhaps slightly more given the less acute angle!).
The seats have a recline facility. That makes the seating slightly more bearable for most. If some inconsiderate chump refuses to recline their seat they are making it less comfortable for the majority. If everyone reclined their seats all "personal space" would remain the same as it is if they remained upright (perhaps slightly more given the less acute angle!).
Integroo said:
I think it is inconsiderate.
However, I have another query about economy etiquette. I booked an aisle seat, on purpose, for a recent flight London to Edinburgh. It was the row right at the back. I boarded and sat down, and a very tall man appeared (must have been over 6ft5) who had the window seat. As this was the back seat, there was no window. He asked if he could sit on the aisle seat as he was tall. I said no, I had paid for an aisle seat (I am not as tall as him, but I am not short - 5ft11 - and did not want to sit on the inside with no window). He moaned and then made a big scene of squeezing himself in to the seat, apologising to the women in the middle who his legs were touching (he eventually found a way not to be touching) and generally made a big deal about being uncomfortable for the (relatively short) flight.
Am I the dick? In my mind, if you are very tall you should specifically book extra leg room. It is an option for a reason ... (I suspect he booked onto the flight late hence why on the last row, but not my problem).
Absolutely not a dick. My sister is 5ft4 but she has something wrong with her back which means she needs to adjust her position regularly and move about often on long haul flights so always sits in the aisle seat. She’s had the same argument so now always emails/calls the airline to make sure she doesn’t get reassigned. If I were as tall as the chap you encountered I would do the same, if you need special treatment of any sort the onus is on you to arrange it in advance not simply have a tantrum on board.However, I have another query about economy etiquette. I booked an aisle seat, on purpose, for a recent flight London to Edinburgh. It was the row right at the back. I boarded and sat down, and a very tall man appeared (must have been over 6ft5) who had the window seat. As this was the back seat, there was no window. He asked if he could sit on the aisle seat as he was tall. I said no, I had paid for an aisle seat (I am not as tall as him, but I am not short - 5ft11 - and did not want to sit on the inside with no window). He moaned and then made a big scene of squeezing himself in to the seat, apologising to the women in the middle who his legs were touching (he eventually found a way not to be touching) and generally made a big deal about being uncomfortable for the (relatively short) flight.
Am I the dick? In my mind, if you are very tall you should specifically book extra leg room. It is an option for a reason ... (I suspect he booked onto the flight late hence why on the last row, but not my problem).
djc206 said:
... if you need special treatment of any sort the onus is on you to arrange it in advance not simply have a tantrum on board.
Try flying on Qatar. On more than one occasion I've seen men insist a woman is removed from the same row as them. The crew complied & told her to move. Mr Pointy said:
Try flying on Qatar. On more than one occasion I've seen men insist a woman is removed from the same row as them. The crew complied & told her to move.
I’ve flown with them before. Didn’t see that but I’m sure it happens. I believe flights to Israel often have similar gender based stupidity.Definitely reclining seats in economy should be banned, or the ability to recline removed.
It's my biggest pet hate about flying when the person in front flips back their seat into my lap as soon as the seat belt signs are off.
It made an absolute misery of my 10 hour honeymoon flight (many years ago).
I think it's grossly inconsiderate and completely unnecessary. I'm not tall, but nonetheless it can force my knees into the back of the chair in front. And it makes using the tray table in flight very difficult, for say using a tablet, reading a book, eating a meal...
And doing it by stealth is just as bad.
It's my biggest pet hate about flying when the person in front flips back their seat into my lap as soon as the seat belt signs are off.
It made an absolute misery of my 10 hour honeymoon flight (many years ago).
I think it's grossly inconsiderate and completely unnecessary. I'm not tall, but nonetheless it can force my knees into the back of the chair in front. And it makes using the tray table in flight very difficult, for say using a tablet, reading a book, eating a meal...
And doing it by stealth is just as bad.
Jarcy said:
Definitely reclining seats in economy should be banned, or the ability to recline removed.
It's my biggest pet hate about flying when the person in front flips back their seat into my lap as soon as the seat belt signs are off.
It made an absolute misery of my 10 hour honeymoon flight (many years ago).
I think it's grossly inconsiderate and completely unnecessary. I'm not tall, but nonetheless it can force my knees into the back of the chair in front. And it makes using the tray table in flight very difficult, for say using a tablet, reading a book, eating a meal...
And doing it by stealth is just as bad.
If I have a 10 hour flight, and the seat is able to recline, then I am going to recline it. Clearly with consideration, and I’ll pull up for meals. If you recline you will have the same amount of space as you did before I have.It's my biggest pet hate about flying when the person in front flips back their seat into my lap as soon as the seat belt signs are off.
It made an absolute misery of my 10 hour honeymoon flight (many years ago).
I think it's grossly inconsiderate and completely unnecessary. I'm not tall, but nonetheless it can force my knees into the back of the chair in front. And it makes using the tray table in flight very difficult, for say using a tablet, reading a book, eating a meal...
And doing it by stealth is just as bad.
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