Best speed camera/ laser detector?

Best speed camera/ laser detector?

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rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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ellroy said:
How easy is it to tag them, especially when driving? Run the risk of using a device while driving charge possibly?
<OK Waze>
<Report>
<Police>

Hands on the steering wheel at all times.

agtlaw

6,712 posts

206 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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s70rmp said:
They’re still used
Which police force in England and Wales do you think still uses technology abandoned in the 1980s?


agtlaw

6,712 posts

206 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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ellroy said:
How easy is it to tag them, especially when driving? Run the risk of using a device while driving charge possibly?
Only if the device is held in your hand.

Earthdweller

13,549 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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agtlaw said:
s70rmp said:
They’re still used
Which police force in England and Wales do you think still uses technology abandoned in the 1980s?
Whilst they may still be authorised for use .. in practice I think you’d struggle to find any actually in operational use

ElectricPics

761 posts

81 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Earthdweller said:
agtlaw said:
s70rmp said:
They’re still used
Which police force in England and Wales do you think still uses technology abandoned in the 1980s?
Whilst they may still be authorised for use .. in practice I think you’d struggle to find any actually in operational use
That's what I though.

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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I've always found the MK1 eyeball works best for me.

s70rmp

654 posts

129 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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There's a number of forces in the north that still use them.

I emailed the FOI address of a number of the large and small forces and they listed the models they currently have and use.

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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ellroy said:
How easy is it to tag them, especially when driving? Run the risk of using a device while driving charge possibly?
its legal to use as long as the phones mounted and your driving is to standard

its 2 or 3 clicks to report things on waze, easier than changing many setting on modern car infotainment systems

if you have car play / android auto you use the cars control systems to report things on waze

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Greendubber said:
I've always found the MK1 eyeball works best for me.
not good enough any more, as with many things technology has improved to vastly out perform humans, the new cameras they are currently rolling out have a range of a Km (or more), very hard to spot the van / concealed officer at that range




Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Friday 23 August 10:01

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Dave Hedgehog said:
its legal to use as long as the phones mounted and your driving is to standard

its 2 or 3 clicks to report things on waze, easier than changing many setting on modern car infotainment systems

if you have car play / android auto you use the cars control systems to report things on waze
I reported ‘Police’ on Waze through Apple Car Play yesterday. I didn’t see an option to report hidden police, speed camera or other stuff? confused

gavgavgav

1,556 posts

229 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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ElectricPics said:
s70rmp said:
It's not always Laser they use, some police forces still use good old radar guns.

I've got a Valentine 1 - excellent detector
I thought the last hand held radar guns in the UK were gone and radar was limited to fixed cameras?
Saw a bike cop on the Millbank using one only last week, while standing behind a tree with his bike parked across the other side of the road. (thanks for the toot and warning wave by the bikers before getting there!)

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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bad company said:
I reported ‘Police’ on Waze through Apple Car Play yesterday. I didn’t see an option to report hidden police, speed camera or other stuff? confused
in app you get options such as hidden / other side of the road, in car play atm its just a generic police

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Dave Hedgehog said:
bad company said:
I reported ‘Police’ on Waze through Apple Car Play yesterday. I didn’t see an option to report hidden police, speed camera or other stuff? confused
in app you get options such as hidden / other side of the road, in car play atm its just a generic police
Yes but that would mean picking up the phone. The options seem to be reduced on the CarPlay screen.

agtlaw

6,712 posts

206 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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s70rmp said:
There's a number of forces in the north that still use them.

I emailed the FOI address of a number of the large and small forces and they listed the models they currently have and use.
It’s been decades since any case in England was prosecuted with evidence from a mobile radar. They are not actually in use in “the north” (where I mostly practise).

Community speedwatch gimps are sometimes given radar devices to play with. That’s it. Perhaps that what they mean? If so then that’s not something to concern yourself about.


Le Controleur Horizontal

1,480 posts

60 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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bad company said:
Yes but that would mean picking up the phone. Why ? The options seem to be reduced on the CarPlay screen.

Earthdweller

13,549 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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agtlaw said:
s70rmp said:
There's a number of forces in the north that still use them.

I emailed the FOI address of a number of the large and small forces and they listed the models they currently have and use.
It’s been decades since any case in England was prosecuted with evidence from a mobile radar. They are not actually in use in “the north” (where I mostly practise).

Community speedwatch gimps are sometimes given radar devices to play with. That’s it. Perhaps that what they mean? If so then that’s not something to concern yourself about.
We used old “dummy” guns for community speed watch .. kids school zone etc

They weren’t calibrated or evidential and a lot cheaper if they dropped or broke them smile

Earthdweller

13,549 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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gavgavgav said:
Saw a bike cop on the Millbank using one only last week, while standing behind a tree with his bike parked across the other side of the road. (thanks for the toot and warning wave by the bikers before getting there!)
I’d imagine it was an LTI2020 or similar

Handheld laser

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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I am always amazed that if you see a camera van, stop your car and flag down or flash other motorists then you risk a heavy fine PCOJ or some such rebuke.

But if you reach down and press the waze app to highlight to everyone in the area nothing happens to you, yet who pressed that button on the Waze app and when is logged.

Funny.

ElectricPics

761 posts

81 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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julian64 said:
I am always amazed that if you see a camera van, stop your car and flag down or flash other motorists then you risk a heavy fine PCOJ or some such rebuke.

But if you reach down and press the waze app to highlight to everyone in the area nothing happens to you, yet who pressed that button on the Waze app and when is logged.

Funny.
There's a big difference. Waving and flashing at someone that could be speeding is at the least potentially obstruction because the camera operator is, well, operating and doing that could be obstructing them in the detection of an offence being committed.

You might press a button to mark a speed camera location but you're warning no-one, just adding data to a database. Waze, and all the other mapping operations just mark the locations of fixed and mobile camera sites and that's perfectly legal. Some safety camera partnerships even tell people where their vans are going to be.

EU_Foreigner

2,833 posts

226 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Has Waze been improved yet to alert you when you are under the limit when approaching the camera? I find it strange that if I was to overtake something that I would only get the warning once it is too late (i.e. in the middle of the overtake and exceeding the limit then) rather than knowing that there is a camera in say 500 yards irrespective of my speed.