Parking Ticket Not even in the area
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janesmith1950 said:
f the OPs car wasn't there in that day, he has little to fear from the PPC. Why put up the shutters and start talking about third party appeals when you could pick up the phone and have a conversation with the PPC, or send them an email with some human language that sounds reasonable and a genuine attempt to solve the issue promptly?
This paranoia around PPCs and psuedo lawyerity (I made that word up) when responding to them is just conflict for the sake of it.
Something has gone wrong. The OP needs to calmly and politely explain to the PPC why he is not responsible for the ticket. It does not need to be a game or complicated or gladiatorial.
What third party appeals? This paranoia around PPCs and psuedo lawyerity (I made that word up) when responding to them is just conflict for the sake of it.
Something has gone wrong. The OP needs to calmly and politely explain to the PPC why he is not responsible for the ticket. It does not need to be a game or complicated or gladiatorial.
Just submit appeal to them (as I posted in the immediately in response to the OP) and say it wasn't there. Not that difficult and no pseudo lawyer speak.
You suggested the OP appeal in writing on the basis of nothing more than "I wasn't there", followed by "if you reject this appeal please provide me with a POPLA code".
It's fairly inevitable the PPC will assume it's one of those people who know my rights and the game is set for (unecessary) confrontation.
Better to speak to people (followed up in writing, with the evidence) and explain the situation, avoiding the need to play email tennis where neither side is properly communicating with the other.
It's fairly inevitable the PPC will assume it's one of those people who know my rights and the game is set for (unecessary) confrontation.
Better to speak to people (followed up in writing, with the evidence) and explain the situation, avoiding the need to play email tennis where neither side is properly communicating with the other.
janesmith1950 said:
You suggested the OP appeal in writing on the basis of nothing more than "I wasn't there", followed by "if you reject this appeal please provide me with a POPLA code".
It's fairly inevitable the PPC will assume it's one of those people who know my rights and the game is set for (unecessary) confrontation.
Better to speak to people (followed up in writing, with the evidence) and explain the situation, avoiding the need to play email tennis where neither side is properly communicating with the other.
You do it in writing by email or letter as I posted. It's fairly inevitable the PPC will assume it's one of those people who know my rights and the game is set for (unecessary) confrontation.
Better to speak to people (followed up in writing, with the evidence) and explain the situation, avoiding the need to play email tennis where neither side is properly communicating with the other.
It's not unnecessary confrontation or Freeman of Land s
t. And in what basis are you the expert on this and upon what is your advice based? It reads like you're a Pepipoo disciple.
You're now going to tell me you've helped 'X' number of people escape unwarranted 'invoices' etc etc etc.
The internet is great for so many things, however sometimes there are self appointed experts who manage to make everyday life more difficult than it needs to be.
You're now going to tell me you've helped 'X' number of people escape unwarranted 'invoices' etc etc etc.
The internet is great for so many things, however sometimes there are self appointed experts who manage to make everyday life more difficult than it needs to be.
janesmith1950 said:
And in what basis are you the expert on this and upon what is your advice based? It reads like you're a Pepipoo disciple.
You're now going to tell me you've helped 'X' number of people escape unwarranted 'invoices' etc etc etc.
The internet is great for so many things, however sometimes there are self appointed experts who manage to make everyday life more difficult than it needs to be.
No OP just needs to send that email or letter. You're now going to tell me you've helped 'X' number of people escape unwarranted 'invoices' etc etc etc.
The internet is great for so many things, however sometimes there are self appointed experts who manage to make everyday life more difficult than it needs to be.
The irony of you posting about not making things complicated with multiple paragraphs of nonsense is great though.
There is very little complicated about putting in writing that the vehicle wasn't there at the time. By having it in writing means that you have copies of the communication. What do you have with a phonecall?
pavarotti1980 said:
No OP just needs to send that email or letter.
The irony of you pisti g about not making things complicated with multiple paragraphs of nonsense is great though
Hey, I just like to keep things simple instead of looking for conflict and complication with no justification. The irony of you pisti g about not making things complicated with multiple paragraphs of nonsense is great though
Other options are always available.
pavarotti1980 said:
Why is appealing by email conflict?
Your advice was to provide no context and encourage the PPC to go to arbitration if they don't like it. Faced with this, the PPC will think the OP is trying it on and the thing will roll in. Better to provide as much help to the PPC as possible now and nip it in the bud.
All this avoiding admitting 'I was the driver' stuff or appeals to POPLA are irrelevant, as if the car wasn't there at the time neither the driver nor RK can be liable for the charge.
At face value it's a mistaken identity and the OP just needs to convey that to the PPC in the most effective way to prevent time and energy spent playing games.
janesmith1950 said:
Your advice was to provide no context and encourage the PPC to go to arbitration if they don't like it. Faced with this, the PPC will think the OP is trying it on and the thing will roll in.
Better to provide as much help to the PPC as possible now and nip it in the bud.
All this avoiding admitting 'I was the driver' stuff or appeals to POPLA are irrelevant, as if the car wasn't there at the time neither the driver nor RK can be liable for the charge.
At face value it's a mistaken identity and the OP just needs to convey that to the PPC in the most effective way to prevent time and energy spent playing games.
Are they? I am guessing you have helped xxxx amount of people get these parking tickets cancelled bla bla bla. Better to provide as much help to the PPC as possible now and nip it in the bud.
All this avoiding admitting 'I was the driver' stuff or appeals to POPLA are irrelevant, as if the car wasn't there at the time neither the driver nor RK can be liable for the charge.
At face value it's a mistaken identity and the OP just needs to convey that to the PPC in the most effective way to prevent time and energy spent playing games.
No games to play. Appeal the ticket in writing.
janesmith1950 said:
1. Put yourself in a Faraday cage in an extradition free country.
2. Set up a secure proxy to protect your IP.
3. Use a disposable keyboard to make sure your DNA isn't left on the keys.
4. Deny you were the driver.
5. Demand trial by POPLA.
6. Get a fking life.
The earth is flat too you know. 2. Set up a secure proxy to protect your IP.
3. Use a disposable keyboard to make sure your DNA isn't left on the keys.
4. Deny you were the driver.
5. Demand trial by POPLA.
6. Get a f
king life. InitialDave said:
silverfoxcc said:
never say who was driving
Driving what? The car wasn't there. keep up please :-)
InitialDave said:
silverfoxcc said:
never say who was driving
Driving what? The car wasn't there. keep up please :-)
We get a couple of cloned or misread plate issues every month for our fleet.
The easiest way is to write back asking for copy of the images (should be on the notice to keeper, to be POFA compliant)
We often get M & W or O & Dmisread, but also 0 and 8. In the majority of cases where the image doesn't match the reg on the document, the parking company will accept their fault.
Surprisingly even with this blatant error, a few still end up chasing us about it !
If the registered keeper has a smartphone, it may be worth taking a screenshot of the phone location on that day - it's not compelling evidence that the car wasn't there, but it's certainly proof the keeper wasn't the driver on the day.
The easiest way is to write back asking for copy of the images (should be on the notice to keeper, to be POFA compliant)
We often get M & W or O & Dmisread, but also 0 and 8. In the majority of cases where the image doesn't match the reg on the document, the parking company will accept their fault.
Surprisingly even with this blatant error, a few still end up chasing us about it !
If the registered keeper has a smartphone, it may be worth taking a screenshot of the phone location on that day - it's not compelling evidence that the car wasn't there, but it's certainly proof the keeper wasn't the driver on the day.
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