Police Aggression at Car Meets

[pavarotti1980]

Zetec-S said:

Does that include McDonald's?

Sorry i should have said a decent burger (now the McDs posh signature ones have gone)

[BertBert]

Aidancky said:

I can see the old fuddy-duddys are in the thread, making assumptions that are so illogical it hurts.

My whole point was:

- I did nothing wrong
- I complied with the police
- I was polite and friendly
- My body language was non-threatening, i'm a short, skinny guy. Not exactly going to be intimidating.
- This police woman spent 5-10 mins of her time threatening me with fines or my car being siezed despite me breaking no laws and complying with what they asked.
- The police woman specifically said "you guys are the only 2 people that haven't told us to fk off when we spoke to you", then she proceeded to intimidate and threaten me....

Thats the end of it - I get that not everyone likes meets, and for some people - the police can do no wrong.

I've only ever had good experiences with the police before. But this kind of attitude of threatening me because i'm a young lad with a modified car.... is concerning to someone law-abiding such as myself.

Good to see some other perspectives in here, including others wrongly targeted by the police. Guessing also below 40 and male.

Interestingly at this meet there were also families, middle aged men as well as young guys. But of course I get targeted. Funny that!

How's the complaint going? I assume you have taken the advice on here and made a complaint to plod.

Bert

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Aidancky said:

- The police woman specifically said "you guys are the only 2 people that haven't told us to fk off when we spoke to you", then she proceeded to intimidate and threaten me....

It seems really weird that she would effectively compliment you on your good behaviour and then intimidate/threaten you?

Why would she even feel the need to mention that everybody else had told her to fk off?

[Pegscratch]

Countdown said:

It seems really weird that she would effectively compliment you on your good behaviour and then intimidate/threaten you?

Why would she even feel the need to mention that everybody else had told her to fk off?

"Come on, I'm getting in my car, doing as you ask, have I given you any cause to think I'm going to be an issue?"

"No, to be fair to you you're the only people who haven't told us to fk off but if you don't get out of here now then I'm going to issue you a S.59, you've all been told several times now to get out".

If you're pasty white boy with twiglets for arms that can be intimidating, especially if you've actually done nothing wrong. What makes the whole thing more ludicrous is if all of these people parked up and walked over to a McD/BK/KFC/other food is available then the police wouldn't bat an eyelid. Stand around the cars for 15 minutes talking to each other and having a look over each other's cars and suddenly it's "abandon that pursuit of the burglar, we've got some real criminals right here".

[xjay1337]

Countdown said:

Aidancky said:

- The police woman specifically said "you guys are the only 2 people that haven't told us to fk off when we spoke to you", then she proceeded to intimidate and threaten me....

It seems really weird that she would effectively compliment you on your good behaviour and then intimidate/threaten you?

Why would she even feel the need to mention that everybody else had told her to fk off?

Police in bad attitude shocker.

The one memory I have of a very negative police encounter was with a female officer.
Not to tar them all with the same brush but I'm sure some are compensating for something... small tits maybe

[BertBert]

Pegscratch said:

What makes the whole thing more ludicrous is if all of these people parked up and walked over to a McD/BK/KFC/other food is available then the police wouldn't bat an eyelid. Stand around the cars for 15 minutes talking to each other and having a look over each other's cars and suddenly it's "abandon that pursuit of the burglar, we've got some real criminals right here".

Very nice story, but doesn't seem to be related to the circumstances described by the OP.
Car meet, daft driving, plod arrive to send everyone home. A simple and effective strategy to deal with the problem. How would you desk with it?

[essayer]

Aidancky said:

I can see the old fuddy-duddys are in the thread, making assumptions that are so illogical it hurts.

Suspect many of the fuddy-duddys on pistonheads dot com were once youths, hanging out in retail parks in their 306s and Novas and Fiestas getting moved on by the police pretending to be innocently accused little boys and girls just the same as you are now.

"I'm just heading off officer. Just checking the items in my boot are secure/putting my seatbelt on/waiting for my friend". What's old is new again and all that

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Pegscratch said:

If you're pasty white boy with twiglets for arms that can be intimidating, especially if you've actually done nothing wrong. What makes the whole thing more ludicrous is if all of these people parked up and walked over to a McD/BK/KFC/other food is available then the police wouldn't bat an eyelid. Stand around the cars for 15 minutes talking to each other and having a look over each other's cars and suddenly it's "abandon that pursuit of the burglar, we've got some real criminals right here".

Supermarket car parks are usually full of cars and full of people. Yet the Police don't normally feel the need to turn up. What do you think it is about "car meets" that seems to get them annoyed?

Like with most car meets (IME) the vast majority of them will just be admiring cars. However there will be a few who are behaving like idiots, whether that's just from constant revvving of engines, doing that annoying fake rally car noise, or perhaps racing around and doing doughnuts. That's what gets people complaining and that's what gets the Police to move them on.

[Greendubber]

BertBert said:

Pegscratch said:

What makes the whole thing more ludicrous is if all of these people parked up and walked over to a McD/BK/KFC/other food is available then the police wouldn't bat an eyelid. Stand around the cars for 15 minutes talking to each other and having a look over each other's cars and suddenly it's "abandon that pursuit of the burglar, we've got some real criminals right here".

Very nice story, but doesn't seem to be related to the circumstances described by the OP.
Car meet, daft driving, plod arrive to send everyone home. A simple and effective strategy to deal with the problem. How would you desk with it?

It doesn't seem related in anyway to reality either.

[Fatball]

essayer said:

Suspect many of the fuddy-duddys on pistonheads dot com were once youths, hanging out in retail parks in their 306s and Novas and Fiestas getting moved on by the police pretending to be innocently accused little boys and girls just the same as you are now.

"I'm just heading off officer. Just checking the items in my boot are secure/putting my seatbelt on/waiting for my friend". What's old is new again and all that

Many of the older members may not have been intimidated back then by someone telling them to fk off.

[xjay1337]

Fatball said:

essayer said:

Suspect many of the fuddy-duddys on pistonheads dot com were once youths, hanging out in retail parks in their 306s and Novas and Fiestas getting moved on by the police pretending to be innocently accused little boys and girls just the same as you are now.

"I'm just heading off officer. Just checking the items in my boot are secure/putting my seatbelt on/waiting for my friend". What's old is new again and all that

Many of the older members may not have been intimidated back then by someone telling them to fk off.

Ah yes, typical boomer comment.

I think most people if told, by a member of our fine constabulary, to fk off would certainly have some negative reaction.

[BertBert]

Fatball said:

essayer said:

Suspect many of the fuddy-duddys on pistonheads dot com were once youths, hanging out in retail parks in their 306s and Novas and Fiestas getting moved on by the police pretending to be innocently accused little boys and girls just the same as you are now.

"I'm just heading off officer. Just checking the items in my boot are secure/putting my seatbelt on/waiting for my friend". What's old is new again and all that

Many of the older members may not have been intimidated back then by someone telling them to fk off.

I don't think they are fuddy-duddys, not with Novas etc! Now I am a real fuddy-duddy and tore around in my Viva and the Bmw2002. Had some conversations, but never got told to fk off though. However, I don't for a moment think that what the OP described though was all that bad or memorable.

[XCP]

They may well think it inappropriate language for an officer to use. But 'intimidating' not really. Nor is it 'aggressive'. Rude, maybe.

[Bigends]

Wonder what the officers response would have been had the OP replied - 'No, you fu*k off'

[XCP]

Bigends said:

Wonder what the officers response would have been had the OP replied - 'No, you fu*k off'

What would your response have been? Theirs would have been much the same I expect.

[BertBert]

Bigends said:

Wonder what the officers response would have been had the OP replied - 'No, you fu*k off'

The response would have been to get the S59 out.
I think people are missing the point that plod in the circumstances have to have something to wheel out to get the job done.

[Pegscratch]

BertBert said:

I think people are missing the point that plod in the circumstances have to have something to wheel out to get the job done.

But they do already! What you're defending is their "right" to just turn around and summarily "sentence" someone on the spot, in the heat of the moment, and with no independent assessment of cirumstances or gathering of evidence.

Would you like the police to have the power to put a bullet in the head of someone found with a dead body because "well, there's more than enough circumstance to suggest you know something about it"?

No. You wouldn't. Because it is fking retarded to believe that the police need the power to do any of this on a whim without having to do their job and gather evidence to support an actual offence.

[Pegscratch]

BertBert said:

plod arrive to send everyone home. A simple and effective strategy to deal with the problem. How would you desk with it?

But that's not what happens is it? Plod arrives, start dishing out S.59 like they're dishing out stickers at a kid's birthday party. People affected have zero respect for the police.

I would deal with it - if I were a police officer - by doing my fking job. If there had been a complaint, observe. Inform all present that there had been a complaint. Identify anyone who is engaged in something that has an actual offence behind it. Inform them that they are committing an offence, and if necessary use the powers that being an actual serving police officer affords me to deal with or detain any individuals that are committing those offences.

I would not be walking in there and looking for anything that looked like a hatchback, or was a "loud" car, or was remotely sporty so I could go win the S.59 bingo with my full house when I got back to the nick.

[Greendubber]

Pegscratch said:

BertBert said:

plod arrive to send everyone home. A simple and effective strategy to deal with the problem. How would you desk with it?

But that's not what happens is it? Plod arrives, start dishing out S.59 like they're dishing out stickers at a kid's birthday party. People affected have zero respect for the police.

I would deal with it - if I were a police officer - by doing my fking job. If there had been a complaint, observe. Inform all present that there had been a complaint. Identify anyone who is engaged in something that has an actual offence behind it. Inform them that they are committing an offence, and if necessary use the powers that being an actual serving police officer affords me to deal with or detain any individuals that are committing those offences.

I would not be walking in there and looking for anything that looked like a hatchback, or was a "loud" car, or was remotely sporty so I could go win the S.59 bingo with my full house when I got back to the nick.

I've never seen any of this stuff you claim to happen, ever.

[pavarotti1980]

Pegscratch said:

But that's not what happens is it? Plod arrives, start dishing out S.59 like they're dishing out stickers at a kid's birthday party. People affected have zero respect for the police.

I would deal with it - if I were a police officer - by doing my fking job. If there had been a complaint, observe. Inform all present that there had been a complaint. Identify anyone who is engaged in something that has an actual offence behind it. Inform them that they are committing an offence, and if necessary use the powers that being an actual serving police officer affords me to deal with or detain any individuals that are committing those offences.

I would not be walking in there and looking for anything that looked like a hatchback, or was a "loud" car, or was remotely sporty so I could go win the S.59 bingo with my full house when I got back to the nick.

Which offences would they be committing?