Medium Swiss army knife with locking blade
Discussion
Being of the walty type persuasion, I've carried knives on me since the 70's.
I've recently left my quite legal SAK at home permanently now because to be honest, times have changed and it's just not worth it now.
Even on the off-chance trouble brews and it stays in my pocket, if plod get to the emptying your pockets stage and you've been involved in physical contact, you're now looking at potentially carrying a bladed article charge or extra time being processed, and you know? it's all just s
t you don't need.
I keep my knives at home now and don't worry about, yes the states won so to speak, but life's too short for all the bullst to make a point.
I've recently left my quite legal SAK at home permanently now because to be honest, times have changed and it's just not worth it now.
Even on the off-chance trouble brews and it stays in my pocket, if plod get to the emptying your pockets stage and you've been involved in physical contact, you're now looking at potentially carrying a bladed article charge or extra time being processed, and you know? it's all just s
t you don't need.I keep my knives at home now and don't worry about, yes the states won so to speak, but life's too short for all the bulls
t to make a point.
Pica-Pica said:
I particularly like the pliers and universal wrench combo, hence why I fancy the S557 which is a newer general design it seems. The regular SAKs that we all know don't have that combo. I have this one now: https://www.victorinox.com/uk/en/Products/Swiss-Ar...
...and it gets used daily, I'm on my third set of scales for it
If I could simply add the pliers/wrench to my existing one somehow I would as it has sentimental value as well since it was a gift.techguyone said:
Being of the walty type persuasion, I've carried knives on me since the 70's.
I've recently left my quite legal SAK at home permanently now because to be honest, times have changed and it's just not worth it now.
Even on the off-chance trouble brews and it stays in my pocket, if plod get to the emptying your pockets stage and you've been involved in physical contact, you're now looking at potentially carrying a bladed article charge or extra time being processed, and you know? it's all just st you don't need.
I keep my knives at home now and don't worry about, yes the states won so to speak, but life's too short for all the bullst to make a point.
I see where you're coming from. I've recently left my quite legal SAK at home permanently now because to be honest, times have changed and it's just not worth it now.
Even on the off-chance trouble brews and it stays in my pocket, if plod get to the emptying your pockets stage and you've been involved in physical contact, you're now looking at potentially carrying a bladed article charge or extra time being processed, and you know? it's all just s
t you don't need.I keep my knives at home now and don't worry about, yes the states won so to speak, but life's too short for all the bulls
t to make a point.Biggest issue I find is accidentally taking mine to airports (not in my checked in bags). I've prob done it half a dozen times now over the last 5 years or so, and it's currently running 50/50 as to whether they let me take it through security and onto the plane, or whether I have to post it back to myself at home. I think it cost £20 for my other half to buy for me, but I've prob spent 3x that on postage sending it back to myself
Sentimental value and all that!HRL said:
Pat H said:
It’s fine on your boat, as you would have a lawful excuse or good reason.
Would cause you a world of problems if you were caught in town with it.
I’m representing a chap tomorrow who was arrested with a retractable craft knife in his pocket. If he gets a suspended sentence it will be a good result for him.
The courts are instructed to deal very robustly with knife offences.
When I started out as a solicitor, carrying a knife might earn you a fine. These days it’s prison. Suspended sentence if you’re lucky.
Minimum sentence of 6 months for a second conviction of possession of a blade or weapon.
I asked a BTP officer on the Central line if it was alright to carry my SA knife a couple of years ago. He laughed at me and said something like as long as I didn’t do something stupid with it, yes. Would cause you a world of problems if you were caught in town with it.
I’m representing a chap tomorrow who was arrested with a retractable craft knife in his pocket. If he gets a suspended sentence it will be a good result for him.
The courts are instructed to deal very robustly with knife offences.
When I started out as a solicitor, carrying a knife might earn you a fine. These days it’s prison. Suspended sentence if you’re lucky.
Minimum sentence of 6 months for a second conviction of possession of a blade or weapon.
There are people on the Tube everyday that carry multi tools and I bet they aren’t all the blade-less types.
Think a SA knife is a bit different from a Stanley knife or kitchen knife. Isn’t it discretionary to a degree as far as the law is concerned?
MiseryStreak said:
That Gerber 600 looks good. Decent price as well. Very tempting....I didn't realise locking was an issue for penknives, I suspect I've heard it and forgotten it.
I've the displeasure of working in Westminster one day this week so I'll leave mine at home. Doubt it'll cause any problems, if anyone wants ties on a package opening they'll probably be made of ethically sourced, gluten free, organic, crushed quinoa with scent of avocado so I'll just pull them apart.
I've the displeasure of working in Westminster one day this week so I'll leave mine at home. Doubt it'll cause any problems, if anyone wants ties on a package opening they'll probably be made of ethically sourced, gluten free, organic, crushed quinoa with scent of avocado so I'll just pull them apart.
BaldOldMan said:
Ayahuasca said:
What is the issue with locking knives over non-locking ones?
Why are they considered more dangerous ?
I would guess that if you intend to stab someone, you'd rather not try with a folding blade ?Why are they considered more dangerous ?
Mario149 said:
MiseryStreak said:
That Gerber 600 looks good. Decent price as well. Very tempting....Gerbers from memory you just open the blade and hold the handles together to use it, no button push required to unlock the blade and fold away....
That said, carrying a Gerber in your pocket must weigh a ton so not massively practical in this context
The Mad Monk said:
What are the legal requirements in the UK?
Blade no longer than three inches - 75 mm?
No locking blades?
If you just want to carry it around with you on the off chance you'll need it yes. Othwerwise you have to have a good reason e.g. work, leisure activity requiring a knife you're at that moment doing/about to do/just finished doingBlade no longer than three inches - 75 mm?
No locking blades?
Found a similar case:
MAKERS of the Swiss Army knife have warned owners that they risk prosecution if they are found carrying one.It follows a case in Britain of a man hauled before a court for keeping a penknife in his car.
Manufacturer Wenger warned yesterday that anyone found carrying one could be prosecuted.
The company spoke out after retired engineer Rodney Knowles, 61, found himself with a criminal record for having a Swiss Army-style knife in his car’s glove compartment.
Following legal advice, Mr Knowles admitted possessing an offensive weapon. But he condemned the law as “stupid”.
Wenger, which has supplied knives to the Swiss Army since the late 1800s, has now warned that anyone carrying a fixed-blade knife in public needs to have a good reason.
Spokesman Garry Woodhouse said: “Some of our knives have a locking blade and the law requires you to have a good reason for carrying one, be it work or an outdoor pursuit.
“We live in troubled times where there is a serious problem in some of our towns and cities with youths illegally carrying knives for personal defence or to get respect.
“But it’s important to remember that knives are still an absolutely vital object that almost everyone uses every day, whether in the kitchen, at the dinner table, at work or during outdoor activities. We would say to our customers who have these products to consider when and where they are carrying it and if they really need to have it in their pocket.”
He added: “People should be aware that, strange as it may seem, your car is still defined as a public place if parked on a public street.”
Mr Knowles, a grandfather-of-four from Newton Abbot, Devon, was charged after police stopped him in his car in February. The keen caravanner used the multi-function knife for picnics during camping trips in the countryside with his wife.
Police discovered it alongside a torch, maps and a first aid kit when they searched Mr Knowles’s car after he had passed a roadside breath test.
The full-time carer assured officers he used it on holidays and to cut up fruit for his wife Pat, 64, who suffers from Huntington’s disease.
He was given a conditional discharge and ordered to pay £40 costs by magistrates at Torquay, Devon, who also confiscated the knife.
Speaking after the hearing, Mr Knowles said: “It’s a stupid law.
“The tool was in my glove box in a pouch along with a torch, first aid kit and waterproofs.” He added: “Now I have a criminal record for the first time in my life.”
Devon and Cornwall police said officers had concerns there was a “potential danger”.
The case marked another blow for the trusty penknife, coming in the wake of advice to Scouts that they should not take them on camping trips because of fears of an epidemic in knife crime.
MAKERS of the Swiss Army knife have warned owners that they risk prosecution if they are found carrying one.It follows a case in Britain of a man hauled before a court for keeping a penknife in his car.
Manufacturer Wenger warned yesterday that anyone found carrying one could be prosecuted.
The company spoke out after retired engineer Rodney Knowles, 61, found himself with a criminal record for having a Swiss Army-style knife in his car’s glove compartment.
Following legal advice, Mr Knowles admitted possessing an offensive weapon. But he condemned the law as “stupid”.
Wenger, which has supplied knives to the Swiss Army since the late 1800s, has now warned that anyone carrying a fixed-blade knife in public needs to have a good reason.
Spokesman Garry Woodhouse said: “Some of our knives have a locking blade and the law requires you to have a good reason for carrying one, be it work or an outdoor pursuit.
“We live in troubled times where there is a serious problem in some of our towns and cities with youths illegally carrying knives for personal defence or to get respect.
“But it’s important to remember that knives are still an absolutely vital object that almost everyone uses every day, whether in the kitchen, at the dinner table, at work or during outdoor activities. We would say to our customers who have these products to consider when and where they are carrying it and if they really need to have it in their pocket.”
He added: “People should be aware that, strange as it may seem, your car is still defined as a public place if parked on a public street.”
Mr Knowles, a grandfather-of-four from Newton Abbot, Devon, was charged after police stopped him in his car in February. The keen caravanner used the multi-function knife for picnics during camping trips in the countryside with his wife.
Police discovered it alongside a torch, maps and a first aid kit when they searched Mr Knowles’s car after he had passed a roadside breath test.
The full-time carer assured officers he used it on holidays and to cut up fruit for his wife Pat, 64, who suffers from Huntington’s disease.
He was given a conditional discharge and ordered to pay £40 costs by magistrates at Torquay, Devon, who also confiscated the knife.
Speaking after the hearing, Mr Knowles said: “It’s a stupid law.
“The tool was in my glove box in a pouch along with a torch, first aid kit and waterproofs.” He added: “Now I have a criminal record for the first time in my life.”
Devon and Cornwall police said officers had concerns there was a “potential danger”.
The case marked another blow for the trusty penknife, coming in the wake of advice to Scouts that they should not take them on camping trips because of fears of an epidemic in knife crime.
Mario149 said:
HRL said:
Pat H said:
It’s fine on your boat, as you would have a lawful excuse or good reason.
Would cause you a world of problems if you were caught in town with it.
I’m representing a chap tomorrow who was arrested with a retractable craft knife in his pocket. If he gets a suspended sentence it will be a good result for him.
The courts are instructed to deal very robustly with knife offences.
When I started out as a solicitor, carrying a knife might earn you a fine. These days it’s prison. Suspended sentence if you’re lucky.
Minimum sentence of 6 months for a second conviction of possession of a blade or weapon.
I asked a BTP officer on the Central line if it was alright to carry my SA knife a couple of years ago. He laughed at me and said something like as long as I didn’t do something stupid with it, yes. Would cause you a world of problems if you were caught in town with it.
I’m representing a chap tomorrow who was arrested with a retractable craft knife in his pocket. If he gets a suspended sentence it will be a good result for him.
The courts are instructed to deal very robustly with knife offences.
When I started out as a solicitor, carrying a knife might earn you a fine. These days it’s prison. Suspended sentence if you’re lucky.
Minimum sentence of 6 months for a second conviction of possession of a blade or weapon.
There are people on the Tube everyday that carry multi tools and I bet they aren’t all the blade-less types.
Think a SA knife is a bit different from a Stanley knife or kitchen knife. Isn’t it discretionary to a degree as far as the law is concerned?
V8RX7 said:
Devon and Cornwall police said officers had concerns there was a “potential danger”.
Would seem to me this is the key bit. I like to think no plod in their right might would pursue a locking swiss army knife in a glovebox with other emergency bits in the sticks unless there was potentially something else going on.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff