New law making merge in turn compulsory ....

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4rephill said:

Centurion07 said:

Mandat said:

However, the fact that merge in turn is now officially sanctioned and compulsory in law (at least in Poland), it will remove the the spurious arguments put forward by the non-believers. Also, the risk of police fines will help them modify their non-compliant behaviour.

It hasn't done much for MLM's.

Or people who mess around with their mobile phones whilst driving.
Or people who believe they drive better after a couple of alcoholic drinks.

Indeed, as I mentioned in a recent post; empty lanes 1,2, and 4 of a motorway, guy in a van hogging lane 3 while staring down at his phone. What should that be, 9 or 12 points?

[SteveC72]

Don’t forget the hard done by lorry drivers that sit stationary in the inside lane to teach a lesson to those that try and jump the queue.

[Osinjak]

I work in a country where if you didn't merge in where you had the lead you'd be considered weird. They also use their horn the way that nature intended, to let you know that you're there, not as a big 'feck off you onanist' that drivers in the UK use it for. Mind you, the drivers where I am have shag all situational awareness so it's mandatory to horn everywhere you go.

I came back to the UK last week for a spot of leave and the level of intolerance and aggression over the most minor of incidents on our roads is just shocking. Yesterday, in the middle of three lanes in town, I need to be in the left lane to turn left up ahead. Check mirrors, can see a car in my left mirror just off my arse so indicate rather than pulling straight over and the dhead speeds up the second I indicate and as I move over the line he starts leaning on the horn, gesticulating etc. So rather than back off one or two feet to let me in comfortably, this slack-jawed mouthbreather actually speeds up to create a situation that never existed in the first place and all for the sake of what? For the avoidance of doubt I ignored the twonk and got on with my life, got bigger things to think about but the sheer stupidity and pointlessness of creating a drama out of what should be just an everyday thing is just extraordinary.

[lyonspride]

Osinjak said:

I work in a country where if you didn't merge in where you had the lead you'd be considered weird. They also use their horn the way that nature intended, to let you know that you're there, not as a big 'feck off you onanist' that drivers in the UK use it for. Mind you, the drivers where I am have shag all situational awareness so it's mandatory to horn everywhere you go.

I came back to the UK last week for a spot of leave and the level of intolerance and aggression over the most minor of incidents on our roads is just shocking. Yesterday, in the middle of three lanes in town, I need to be in the left lane to turn left up ahead. Check mirrors, can see a car in my left mirror just off my arse so indicate rather than pulling straight over and the dhead speeds up the second I indicate and as I move over the line he starts leaning on the horn, gesticulating etc. So rather than back off one or two feet to let me in comfortably, this slack-jawed mouthbreather actually speeds up to create a situation that never existed in the first place and all for the sake of what? For the avoidance of doubt I ignored the twonk and got on with my life, got bigger things to think about but the sheer stupidity and pointlessness of creating a drama out of what should be just an everyday thing is just extraordinary.

Absolutely spot on, i've done a few stints abroad and I think UK drivers are terrible, always looking for a fight and willing to create a situation if they have to.

[Lenovo]

I totally agree, sometimes I think I’d be better not using my indicators when changing lanes just to avoid giving the other driver the heads up that they need to accelerate to close the perfectly safe gap I was pulling into.

[BertBert]

4rephill said:

Or people who believe they drive better after a couple of alcoholic drinks.

Interestingly, alcohol does improve driving in many cases. The problem though is that it very quickly degrades driving as more is consumed. There is quite a big standard deviation on when the degradation occurs.
Bert

[lyonspride]

Lenovo said:

I totally agree, sometimes I think I’d be better not using my indicators when changing lanes just to avoid giving the other driver the heads up that they need to accelerate to close the perfectly safe gap I was pulling into.

Yeah, but sometimes when i'm not in a hurry I might give an indication and then chuckle to myself as they speed off.

Quite often these days if people are dawdling, all you have to do to make them speed up, is make them think you're going to try to overtake them.

[lyonspride]

BertBert said:

4rephill said:

Or people who believe they drive better after a couple of alcoholic drinks.

Interestingly, alcohol does improve driving in many cases. The problem though is that it very quickly degrades driving as more is consumed. There is quite a big standard deviation on when the degradation occurs.
Bert

Well the statistics don't lie, alcohol consumption is responsible for around 5% of all road deaths, which means that 95% are caused by sober drivers.

[anonymous-user]

The PIS government in Poland seem to think that making this compulsory will help however anyone who has ever driven in Poland will probably agree that as a nation motorists appear to be unbelievably selfish and reckless and the majority shouldn't really be on the road. Lovely people. Appalling drivers.

I had a discussion/slight argument with my brother in law who believes that people who drive to the end of a merge lane are pushing in and its rude so refuses to let them out. You also have drivers that stop 500m from the end of the lane, blocking it as they must change lane at that precise moment.

such as here...
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.054754,17.9979536,...

I drive that stretch most days and this 4km stretch of road can sometimes take half an hour. (Theres usually a crash or something or worse a Dacia with rosary beads hanging from the rear view mirror and a fish on the tailgate blocking the entire outside lane for no apparent reason)

Driving on the phone is rife, tailgating is also rife and overtakes must only be done in 6th gear on the brow of a hill when a truck is coming in the opposite direction. Keeping your braking distance is seen as a weakness. Personally making merge in turns compulsory in Poland is the least of the problems within their driving culture.

[Osinjak]

CDB1983 said:

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I had a discussion/slight argument with my brother in law who believes that people who drive to the end of a merge lane are pushing in and its rude so refuses to let them out.

But why does he think that, does he not understand that if everyone merged rather than queuing like demented sheep it would likely help traffic move more quickly?

[anonymous-user]

Osinjak said:

But why does he think that, does he not understand that if everyone merged rather than queuing like demented sheep it would likely help traffic move more quickly?

Because here in Poland every driver thinks that they are the most important person in the world behind the wheel of a car. He explained that it was like pushing into a queue. When I asked why they built 2 lanes it was a blank face moment

The Germans use filter lanes perfectly. Its amazing that just over the border that they just don't work.

The problem I see with this new law is that drivers here won't wait to be let in, They will indicate and change lane immediately believing that they have priority and therefore are even more invincible. (Crashing is fairly common) Much like pedestrians on crossings jumping in front of 12 tonnes of bus at the last minute because "by law they have priority" Its no F*cking wonder I'm still waiting for my car to be painted after 5 months (Non collision related) All of the countries painters are busy fixing accident damage that needn't have happened had a little common courtesy exist

Bearing in mind that these are some of the friendliest, most educated people you could meet outside of a car its strange what happens to them when they try to drive.

[jesta1865]

merge in turn is used here in New Zealand quite well to a point.

Some of them are so anal about it, that they will accelerate and try and overtake just so it is merged in turn not merge sensibly. they can't see that it will slow down the traffic, i have been beeped a couple of times as they expected me to brake and let them in, yet they were 90% behind me. I have also been beeped for dropping in behind the car i am besides as otherwise, it would cause a delay.

it also works at fixed places like roads that go from 2 to 1 lanes etc where everyone knows what's coming. lose a lane at roadworks and the sky falls in. it's chaos.

this may be an Auckland thing. Very rarely do you get someone who won't let you in.

I've only been here for 2 years, not looking forward to driving when I go back for a visit.

[Aidancky]

As far as I know the highway code already says we should be doing this.

But I myself try to avoid it, because of the other 99% of drivers who get angry and purposely try to block you doing it

[lyonspride]

I think i'd be right in saying that "merge in turn" is a problem in most countries where the car is now viewed as a symbol of a persons social status.