Radar Jammers - not advised!
Discussion
Many people now have Road Angel 2, which as well as being a GPS device, also has a radar detector. While the radar detector can be switched off, would the fact that it was switched to the "off" position in the menu prevent you being prosecuted ? I doubt it, to be honest. Also, the device is very visible, so I'm sure people will be stopped because of it.
I suspect that use of the Road Angel 2 could be succesfully argued in court if the radar detector had been switched off, so hopefully someone will take this to court and win their case
I suspect that use of the Road Angel 2 could be succesfully argued in court if the radar detector had been switched off, so hopefully someone will take this to court and win their case
DrDaveWatford said:I imagine it wouldn't take long to disable the laser detector feature, so how can one prove it was genuinely switched off?
Many people now have Road Angel 2, which as well as being a GPS device, also has a radar detector. While the radar detector can be switched off, would the fact that it was switched to the "off" position in the menu prevent you being prosecuted ? I doubt it, to be honest. Also, the device is very visible, so I'm sure people will be stopped because of it.
I suspect that use of the Road Angel 2 could be succesfully argued in court if the radar detector had been switched off, so hopefully someone will take this to court and win their case
Also, I reckon the judge would not believe anyone who had spent good money on a unit with such a feature only to claim they had disabled it.
That's exactly my point - it IS easy to switch off the radar detector.
Problem is, it's a crap radar detector (as is any one-point, dashboard mounted device) - it hardly works, and no one in their right mind buys a Road Angel 2 for the radar detector.
It's a great GPS device, which is why I and others I know have it, and to have to discard this 400 quid device because it can also function as a radar detector is nonsense.
Problem is, it's a crap radar detector (as is any one-point, dashboard mounted device) - it hardly works, and no one in their right mind buys a Road Angel 2 for the radar detector.
It's a great GPS device, which is why I and others I know have it, and to have to discard this 400 quid device because it can also function as a radar detector is nonsense.
Don't worry, as law abiding citizens you have nothing to fear. The government will look after you, and they will take the bad men away and punish them - and they are very very bad men. Relax, you are safe in their hands, they have only your best interests at heart. They'll keep you safe. Shhh now. Sush.
That mean YOU! I can see you there, stop picking you nose and put that away. NOW. You have 10 seconds to comply ...
That mean YOU! I can see you there, stop picking you nose and put that away. NOW. You have 10 seconds to comply ...
voiceofdoom said:
A specialist company has been trying to jam or scramble the RFID for 18 months apparently, no joy.
Clone plates wont happen either, the design of the RFID and its encryption mean that a bogus plate will be spotted a mile away (well 100m)
I like the microwave idea though, only snag is you cant remove the plates from the car and the "zap" will get all the other electronics in the car if you're not careful ... possibilities there though - good idea.
I actually dont mind a whole host of benefits that the system might bring, the thing I dont like is average speed between 2 points ... 21 years late but 1984 is here.
So this assumes the plate will be glued on. To what exactly? On top of the old plate is my guess.
Most number plates are attached to bumpers. They are normally made from plastic and easily removed/refitted.
In anycase, if you have an Elise speed bumps will automatically remove the front numberplate for you.
The biggest "benefit" achieved is the ability for the government to track exactly where you are. Not desirable.
Plate is self-adhesive and is glued to whatever current plate is attached to. The glue isn't super strong its just the plate breaks up if you try to pull it off and the RF tag gets snapped in 2 also.
Hence you can remove the ePlate but you destroy it at the same time, hence cant transfer it unless you transfer the whole bumper of course.
Or unscrew the bracket on an Elise
It amazes me that Alistair Darling is still talking GPS and 2015, I wonder when he will come clean. GPS is just a smoke screen whilst they prepare the population for big-brother day.
There is one problem that the people creating all this havn't thought of. That is that RFID will be used for all sorts of things in the future (its like a 21st century barcode) and RFID de-activators will be made to kill the transmitters when required. It would only take a day wandering around a multi-story car park for someone to kill 1000 cars ePlates. The owners wouldn't know until a letter dropped through the door and even then the data center would have been overloaded if same happened all over the country. GPS is just as bad, all you have to do is stick a bit of lead over the receiver and the car will have no idea of where it is...
Some serious flaws there thank god.
>> Edited by voiceofdoom on Friday 10th June 20:47
Hence you can remove the ePlate but you destroy it at the same time, hence cant transfer it unless you transfer the whole bumper of course.
Or unscrew the bracket on an Elise
It amazes me that Alistair Darling is still talking GPS and 2015, I wonder when he will come clean. GPS is just a smoke screen whilst they prepare the population for big-brother day.
There is one problem that the people creating all this havn't thought of. That is that RFID will be used for all sorts of things in the future (its like a 21st century barcode) and RFID de-activators will be made to kill the transmitters when required. It would only take a day wandering around a multi-story car park for someone to kill 1000 cars ePlates. The owners wouldn't know until a letter dropped through the door and even then the data center would have been overloaded if same happened all over the country. GPS is just as bad, all you have to do is stick a bit of lead over the receiver and the car will have no idea of where it is...
Some serious flaws there thank god.
>> Edited by voiceofdoom on Friday 10th June 20:47
supraman2954 said:
Someone will come up with a system that transmits a valid but wrong ID if the Government ever tries to implement this.
no need to go that far. It won't be long before tags/plates are nicked en masse, falling well within the ability of the average scrote.
But the government will claim the system is perfect for years and thousands will be wrongly prosecuted.
Afterall haven't you heard of the concept of Priminsterial Infaliblity?
Darth Viper said:I think the cost of import/export every so often will come crashing down if we all do it
[quote=Bedford Rascal]Time to figure out a cheap way of having your car registered on foreign plates methinks.
Sort it all in one fell swoop?
Definatly should have done this - register car in US, bring it to UK - savings as follows:
1) Get a cheaper car (www.autotrader.com)
2) Pay just 6% Tax on vehicle - instead of UK's 28% combined VAT/Import Duty (a saving of over £10,000 on a Viper for example)
3) Car has no front numberplate - also good for a low profile.
4) Drive car as extension of US insurance (example: Dodge Viper - Adrian Flux wanted £4800 for years insurance, extension of US overseas policy is under £300 - Geiko)
5) No exchange treaty, no vehicle tracking, no part of no steenkin' inter-Euro database etc etc...
Only drawback is the car should only stay in UK for a limited time, officially 6 months - so £2000 bill a year for sending car back and forth (which if you do for 5 years, is only the cost I just recently parted for in tax anyway). Maybe a good idea for a summer car - import in May, send it back in October.
I'd buy that for a Dollar...
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