Speed watch group camera type

[anonymous-user]

Luckily, I haven't stumbled upon these confused old loonies camped out in the local area. I guess there's a higher proportion of bowling clubs around here?

[Paul Dishman]

Biker 1 said:

catso said:

The OAPs operating the device really should have stayed in the day centre...

Out of interest: if you were to regularly break the speed limit through one of these speedwatch areas, what happens when you clock up over 3 letters from them? Would plod actually prosecute this further? Are there speed/danger thresholds??

The literature says they send someone from the Road policing team to discuss your driving. In Devon & Cornwall a hobby bobby

[Bobtherallyfan]

Biker 1 said:

Out of interest: if you were to regularly break the speed limit through one of these speedwatch areas, what happens when you clock up over 3 letters from them? Would plod actually prosecute this further? Are there speed/danger thresholds??

Depends on the Police area you are in, but in Dorset if you receive 3 letters you are added to the list for targeted action, under Operation Dragoon. You are marked as a persistent offender.

[Roofless Toothless]

spaximus said:

stuartmmcfc said:

Why has “do gooder” become a term of contempt and an insult?
Imo we could do wirth a few more “do gooders” these days in a world where it seems the majority are just out for them selves.

I sort of agree with you however, my experience of some of these people is that they want to make a difference but do not have the ability to do so.

I am on a local committee on a local park, we raised funds to enhance the local area for all. The man who is a fishing fan is only interested in fish, the lady is only interested in places for mums and kids and yet when you explain that you cannot single anyone out for special treatment, they do not get it and strop.

A couple of the local councillors are really nice, but were elected because they were nice not because of a skill set they had. One is an ex librarian who has no knowledge of business at all but reacts to nice people she knows.

An example was Morrisons closed a huge distribution centre to move to an even bigger one at Bridgewater, this councillor wanted to put a restriction on how many trucks and the size for any new owners. Regardless of the job losses and the complexity in doing so, it never happened and to this day the unit is still empty, the council having done nothing to attract business to the area.

So yes they want to do good, but only if it fits their ideals and many fall short on many fronts. Too many are easy to be lobbied, so now everything is "green issues" as it is in their post bag, same with reducing speeds on roads make enough noise and they are there.

The Lyons group do very good work I would say and do not fall into the lecturing ways that others do to be called do gooders in a dismissive way

My parish council are for the most part elected, but do contain more than one husband/wife combos, which causes me some concern. They can and do, however, co-opt people onto the council without election, and a bigger recipe for nepotism than that I cannot imagine.

Our local busybodies last year had stick on 30mph speed roundels printed, the size of repeater signs, and distributed them along my road. They perceive there to be a problem with speeding vehicles here, even though the accident black spots are not in this stretch. They were not pleased when I said I was not going to put them on my bins, front wall, etc, as I doubted that they were lawful. (There are strict rules about the deployment of repeaters, as described on the county council highways dept web site.) it is also a conservation area.

My problem with these people is that while they profess to be aiming their attention at people who are breaking the law by speeding, they are pretty impervious to the laws they themselves have to abide by when carrying out their little games.

[nonsequitur]

BertBert said:

oh. no, not this st again., Is it really 15 minutes since the last go round?

Exellent summation, Bert squared. Nail and head, Hose and carriage, love and marriage etc.

[anonymous-user]

nonsequitur said:

Exellent summation, Bert squared. Nail and head, Hose and carriage, love and marriage etc.

Nail is to head, as silly old people are to speedwatch.

[poo at Paul's]

I’m all for the scheme.
We don’t have one in my village but they’re do in the village where my daughter goes to school. I see them as I buzz about the country, never had a letter from any, but they do me no harm whatsoever, they dint get in my way, don’t stop me doing anything. I know someone who had a letter, it made her realise she needed to concentrate a bit more on her speed in town and villages, but she has since had two sp30s!

Kids at school had a talk by them, the kids were interested in they even speed checked some of the kids on their bikes in their car park. It’s a pocket radar branded thing they use, I saw a photo of my kid having a go with it. Apparently accurate, but not calibrated and therefore not eligible for PCNs etc.

https://www.pocketradar.com/

Before you main about them, think why they are there? We had police / council set up the wires on the road into and out of our village about 10 years back, it is a quiet village on a B road, but only 10 miles from a motorway. There’s traffic but it is not a ‘raT run’ by any means.
The results were an eye opener. The road out that is on a downhill section going into a nsl, showed and Average of 44mph, with a high of 116mph noted! 12 percent was over 50mph, and 5 percent over 60. All in a 30, with houses and pavements both sides, school bus stop 50 yards past it, and 30 yards from the nsl. In a month, there were 63 incidents of vehicles over 80!

I got caught speeding in 1989, never since. I got done at 53 in a 30, I was driving myself to hospital after an accident, turns out I broke my arm, and was overtaking a bus when caught. Made me realise there’s just no excuse to do it in towns and villages, and temp speed restrictions like 50 on a mway, 40 in nsl are usually there for a reason. Out of town, clear roads, fill your boots. I’ve driven about 700k miles since then all over the world, and never been caught speeding since.
Time and place and all that.

If you get a letter, you can ignore it, or called them do Gooders with noncey beards if you like, or you could think, hmmm, ok maybe I wasn’t concentrating as much as I should, or going a bit quicker than I thought. Even if it just saves you a PCN and 100 quid fine in the future rather than save a load of kids and kittens, if you think about, they’re doing you a favour.

[anonymous-user]

So a bunch of non qualified beards were actually allowed to talk to school kids, unbelievable. No wonder driving is dying out. The funny thing is these same types will be holding up traffic and generally getting in the way in their Honda Jazz’s and Prious’s. My opinion is if you want to be a traffic cop you should do just that. These people have just got fk all better to do with their time, gives them a bit of a power trip to wield a speed gun, all a bit pathetic really.

[stuartmmcfc]

yonex said:

So a bunch of non qualified beards were actually allowed to talk to school kids, unbelievable. No wonder driving is dying out. The funny thing is these same types will be holding up traffic and generally getting in the way in their Honda Jazz’s and Prious’s. My opinion is if you want to be a traffic cop you should do just that. These people have just got fk all better to do with their time, gives them a bit of a power trip to wield a speed gun, all a bit pathetic really.

Time to bring out an old favourite...

[Flumpo]

yonex said:

So a bunch of non qualified beards were actually allowed to talk to school kids, unbelievable. No wonder driving is dying out. The funny thing is these same types will be holding up traffic and generally getting in the way in their Honda Jazz’s and Prious’s. My opinion is if you want to be a traffic cop you should do just that. These people have just got fk all better to do with their time, gives them a bit of a power trip to wield a speed gun, all a bit pathetic really.

While I tend to agree, are you sure about the beards? Having the misfortune of meeting a lot of the usual faces who are on all these committees, that age group tend to be fanatically clean shaven. That age group tend to frown upon anything other than a sensible haircut and shaving gives them a sense of purpose on a morning.

While most people under 35 have a beard.

[Pica-Pica]

Roofless Toothless said:

My parish council are for the most part elected, but do contain more than one husband/wife combos, which causes me some concern. They can and do, however, co-opt people onto the council without election, and a bigger recipe for nepotism than that I cannot imagine.

They can only co-opt people when there are spaces that are infilled because not enough people stand for election. Answer - put yourself forward for elections. Are you going to? No - thought not.

[Paul Dishman]

Bobtherallyfan said:

Depends on the Police area you are in, but in Dorset if you receive 3 letters you are added to the list for targeted action, under Operation Dragoon. You are marked as a persistent offender.

The same priority as disqualified drivers, persistent drug users or drunk drivers?

I don’t believe that

[av185]

nonsequitur said:

megaphone said:

rdjohn said:

Possibly something like this. They are not authorised, but it makes people think - and that is probably sufficient to make a difference.

Yes probably measuring the speed of the wind.

And the hot air.

Yup, flatulance and eternally rambling on about the good old days are what the old dodderers specialise in.

[anonymous-user]

Bobtherallyfan said:

So you are criticising local people who stand for election, raise money for charity, help preserve your local village and try to stop speeding. Whereas you apparently contribute nothing apart from a lots of hot air

Correct.

[Bobtherallyfan]

Paul Dishman said:

The same priority as disqualified drivers, persistent drug users or drunk drivers?

I don’t believe that

It’s true, but by all means test it if you want........

[anonymous-user]

Roofless Toothless said:

Our local busybodies last year had stick on 30mph speed roundels printed, the size of repeater signs, and distributed them along my road.

One of the major roads into our village also had these and they were applied to wheelie bins. Great use of funds as the bins are only emptied every two weeks so they get half-a-day exposure once a fortnight, dheads!

[Dont like rolls]

Biker 1 said:

Out of interest: if you were to regularly break the speed limit through one of these speedwatch areas, what happens when you clock up over 3 letters from them? Would plod actually prosecute this further? Are there speed/danger thresholds??

With luck on of the local farm workers would come around and give you a good slap for being a tt ?

Edited by Dont like rolls on Saturday 25th January 19:07

[Trevor555]

We've got a problem road in our town.

It's a rat run in the morning rush hour, and some of the stupid speeds you see some people go down there is beyond belief.

So I'm pleased when I see these people set up there, shame it's not Police officers doing it.

I don't understand all the hate towards them.

[g3org3y]

ValleyRed said:

We've got them around our way, proper pillocks of the community, same faces in everything, parish council, Lions, conservation society etc.

I got a letter from the police Speedwatch team even though myself and my wife saw they were not pointing the 'gun' at anyone. We had slowed right down because of a huge pothole so no way we were speeding.

Contacted the Speedwatch team and told them it was a load of ballcocks and the Wongas (all old wrinklies like in the old ads - I'm 69 so not being ageist) were just making up numbers (because they knew they wouldn't have to justify their report) and the Speedwatch bloke said he'd make a note on the system and it wouldn't count on the 'totting up' - three letters and you get a visit from the Road Team to point out the error of my ways.

Had the same. Spotted them quite a fair distance away (group in luminous jackets standing at an odd location) so intentionally stayed bang on the limit. Gave them a bit a scowl as I drove past and got the 'hairdryer' pointed at me.

Few weeks later got a letter from the Police to tell me the Community Speedwatch Team had caught me at 39mph (in a 30) but they'd let me off and to behave in future.

There's no way I was doing 39mph. Malicious lying old s.

[nonsequitur]

av185 said:

nonsequitur said:

megaphone said:

rdjohn said:

Possibly something like this. They are not authorised, but it makes people think - and that is probably sufficient to make a difference.

Yes probably measuring the speed of the wind.

And the hot air.

Yup, flatulance and eternally rambling on about the good old days are what the old dodderers specialise in.

I meant the hot air from the critics of the scheme. It is a very good idea, and the folks that carry out voluntarily these speed watch duties are easy targets for others to have a laugh and a joke.

Yes they are probably retired, yes they are getting on a bit and may be a bit doddery, but they are concerned about their local area and wish to do something about the various problems on their patch.

We are soon to get a speed watch in my local town following a monitoring period in which it was found that the average speed past a school was well above the 30 limit. According to reports in the local press we are not alone in this.

As this is PH I do not expect much favourable comment concerning a reduction in your speed, but a little consideration in those vulnerable areas on your journey will not go amiss.