Fewer than 1% of car crime now results in a conviction

Fewer than 1% of car crime now results in a conviction

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Gweeds

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7,954 posts

52 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Currently on 5Live.

Insane numbers. It's almost like massively cutting police generally and traffic police specifically has an impact.

The police chap being interviewed also has few good things to say about keyless entry and how easy that's made things.

trickywoo

11,780 posts

230 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Gweeds said:
Currently on 5Live.

Insane numbers. It's almost like massively cutting police generally and traffic police specifically has an impact.

The police chap being interviewed also has few good things to say about keyless entry and how easy that's made things.
Police numbers aren’t the story imo. It’s their inefficiency as much as anything.

Have a look on YouTube for the folks who like to film buildings (legally) and see how many plod turn up at short notice and then hang around longer than they need to.

SSWGB

42 posts

50 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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I find it odd that if you go into a bus lane you get a picture taken, decent quality enough to identify the car and sometimes the driver. Same goes for speeding and red light cameras.

Funny that a lot more than 1% get caught.

Yet if a car is stolen or broken into it rarely gets solved. Seems it’s just whatever pays them rather than giving the public trust in the services.

deadslow

7,994 posts

223 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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10 years of Tory cuts. The Uk is a great place to steal. Wonder how many burglars they catch. If they even investigate anymore. Remember we had that brilliant long serving Home Secretary.

coldel

7,854 posts

146 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Skip driver drove his truck into our car parked on our road and wrote it off, we had witnesses and CCTV that caught the impact, he drove off without leaving details. Police caught up with them, they refused to even respond to correspondence until the day before the deadline which they replied again denying it. Police said there wasn't enough evidence to charge.

If thats the case, then surely every camera they use to catch speeders and other offenders is not enough evidence to prosecute either, surely.

That or the force is just a joke, full of racists and other nut cases, under staffed, under funded, woeful wastage of resources and run by people who couldn't give a st.

LosingGrip

7,816 posts

159 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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SSWGB said:
I find it odd that if you go into a bus lane you get a picture taken, decent quality enough to identify the car and sometimes the driver. Same goes for speeding and red light cameras.

Funny that a lot more than 1% get caught.

Yet if a car is stolen or broken into it rarely gets solved. Seems it’s just whatever pays them rather than giving the public trust in the services.
Often there is no evidence to find those responsible for them.

I've attended a few burglaries lately, offender wearing gloves. No chance of finger prints. Faces covered so no CCTV. Cloned plates.

It would be nice if it was like CSI Miami where its solved within the hour.

More police officers would mean less of a workload for everyone, more free time to be proactive.

Tim bo

1,956 posts

140 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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coldel said:
Skip driver drove his truck into our car parked on our road and wrote it off, we had witnesses and CCTV that caught the impact, he drove off without leaving details. Police caught up with them, they refused to even respond to correspondence until the day before the deadline which they replied again denying it. Police said there wasn't enough evidence to charge.
The police don't make the decision on whether or not there is enough evidence to charge. The CPS do.

coldel

7,854 posts

146 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Tim bo said:
coldel said:
Skip driver drove his truck into our car parked on our road and wrote it off, we had witnesses and CCTV that caught the impact, he drove off without leaving details. Police caught up with them, they refused to even respond to correspondence until the day before the deadline which they replied again denying it. Police said there wasn't enough evidence to charge.
The police don't make the decision on whether or not there is enough evidence to charge. The CPS do.
OK fair enough, semantics, the police told us there wasn't enough evidence to charge, sure the CPS made the decision. Ultimately, were let down by the system which was the point of the post i.e. prosecutions. Police were shockingly poor throughout, took ages for them to come back to us, poor communication, lost the CCTV file we sent them twice it took 5 months end to end.

I get we are small fry in the grand scheme of things but on point, I can totally understand why car crime prosecution is down, its so far off their priority list - unless of course there is a nice big fine involved.

carinaman

21,290 posts

172 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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trickywoo said:
Gweeds said:
Currently on 5Live.

Insane numbers. It's almost like massively cutting police generally and traffic police specifically has an impact.

The police chap being interviewed also has few good things to say about keyless entry and how easy that's made things.
Police numbers aren’t the story imo. It’s their inefficiency as much as anything.

Have a look on YouTube for the folks who like to film buildings (legally) and see how many plod turn up at short notice and then hang around longer than they need to.
Nevermind, at least plod are now very active on Social Media posting footage of stuff they've recorded.


Terminator X

15,054 posts

204 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Gweeds said:
Currently on 5Live.

Insane numbers. It's almost like massively cutting police generally and traffic police specifically has an impact.

The police chap being interviewed also has few good things to say about keyless entry and how easy that's made things.
Afaik most new cars have a motion sensor in the keyfob and shortly after keys are set down the keyfob stops transmitting the signal. Keyless entry crime effectively killed off.

TX.

Leicester Loyal

4,542 posts

122 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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The police in this country are generally useless. Got no respect for them, wkers.

Fatball

645 posts

59 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Leicester Loyal said:
The police in this country are generally useless. Got no respect for them, wkers.
This.

Fatball

645 posts

59 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Leicester Loyal said:
The police in this country are generally useless. Got no respect for them, wkers.
This is bks.

Sorry, posted before I’d finished.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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In fairness, I had a car nicked last year, and was contacted several times by the forensic boys. A few weeks back I had another contact from the police for a statement as they are prosecuting someone for it. Whether he'll be convicted I don't know, but in this case they certainly seemed to be doing ok.

tejr

3,105 posts

164 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Leicester Loyal said:
The police in this country are generally useless. Got no respect for them, wkers.
Stupid headlines lead to stupid statements like this.

We have become a nation of headlines and buzzwords. Nobody cares to put any context around them.

Unlikely, but its possible the Police caught 90%+ of the thieves, but the courts/system only managed to convict 1% of them.

Leicester Loyal

4,542 posts

122 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Fatball said:
This is bks.

Sorry, posted before I’d finished.
You have your opinion.

Whether it's due to funding cuts or restaints placed on them I don't know, but if I needed them, I wouldn't be confident they'd get a result.

Leicester Loyal

4,542 posts

122 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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tejr said:
Stupid headlines lead to stupid statements like this.

We have become a nation of headlines and buzzwords. Nobody cares to put any context around them.

Unlikely, but its possible the Police caught 90%+ of the thieves, but the courts/system only managed to convict 1% of them.
I'd say that last statement is very unlikely.

What's their record on Yorkshire grooming gangs? Seems pretty poor too imo.

I'm not saying the courts are any better either btw, our justice system as a whole seems pretty poor, lack of prison space, repeat offenders etc. The whole thing is just poor, from the top to the bottom.

andygo

6,799 posts

255 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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I realise this isn't about a car but..

We had two expensive and unusual mountain bikes pinched out of our garage, cost new circa £2k each.

I managed replace my wifes version the next day with an identical one purchased off a friend of ours.

The Police had attended to take a statement off me and were sitting outside the house having a doughnut or similar when my wife rode passed them and up the drive on her replacement bike.

Plod never batted an eye. You thought they might have noticed something.


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Too busy catching drivers doing 35 in a 30. Speed kills !
Priorities ? Perfectly aligned...

Court_S

12,929 posts

177 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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andygo said:
I realise this isn't about a car but..

We had two expensive and unusual mountain bikes pinched out of our garage, cost new circa £2k each.

I managed replace my wifes version the next day with an identical one purchased off a friend of ours.

The Police had attended to take a statement off me and were sitting outside the house having a doughnut or similar when my wife rode passed them and up the drive on her replacement bike.

Plod never batted an eye. You thought they might have noticed something.
That sort of theft barely raises an eyebrow - I had six bikes stolen a few years ago and the police only bothered to come out on the basis that the value of them (£13k or so). Other than that nothing really and because the garage wasn't connected to the house it wasn't a priority.