Fewer than 1% of car crime now results in a conviction
Discussion
Gweeds said:
Currently on 5Live.
Insane numbers. It's almost like massively cutting police generally and traffic police specifically has an impact.
The police chap being interviewed also has few good things to say about keyless entry and how easy that's made things.
Police numbers aren’t the story imo. It’s their inefficiency as much as anything.Insane numbers. It's almost like massively cutting police generally and traffic police specifically has an impact.
The police chap being interviewed also has few good things to say about keyless entry and how easy that's made things.
Have a look on YouTube for the folks who like to film buildings (legally) and see how many plod turn up at short notice and then hang around longer than they need to.
I find it odd that if you go into a bus lane you get a picture taken, decent quality enough to identify the car and sometimes the driver. Same goes for speeding and red light cameras.
Funny that a lot more than 1% get caught.
Yet if a car is stolen or broken into it rarely gets solved. Seems it’s just whatever pays them rather than giving the public trust in the services.
Funny that a lot more than 1% get caught.
Yet if a car is stolen or broken into it rarely gets solved. Seems it’s just whatever pays them rather than giving the public trust in the services.
Skip driver drove his truck into our car parked on our road and wrote it off, we had witnesses and CCTV that caught the impact, he drove off without leaving details. Police caught up with them, they refused to even respond to correspondence until the day before the deadline which they replied again denying it. Police said there wasn't enough evidence to charge.
If thats the case, then surely every camera they use to catch speeders and other offenders is not enough evidence to prosecute either, surely.
That or the force is just a joke, full of racists and other nut cases, under staffed, under funded, woeful wastage of resources and run by people who couldn't give a st.
If thats the case, then surely every camera they use to catch speeders and other offenders is not enough evidence to prosecute either, surely.
That or the force is just a joke, full of racists and other nut cases, under staffed, under funded, woeful wastage of resources and run by people who couldn't give a st.
SSWGB said:
I find it odd that if you go into a bus lane you get a picture taken, decent quality enough to identify the car and sometimes the driver. Same goes for speeding and red light cameras.
Funny that a lot more than 1% get caught.
Yet if a car is stolen or broken into it rarely gets solved. Seems it’s just whatever pays them rather than giving the public trust in the services.
Often there is no evidence to find those responsible for them. Funny that a lot more than 1% get caught.
Yet if a car is stolen or broken into it rarely gets solved. Seems it’s just whatever pays them rather than giving the public trust in the services.
I've attended a few burglaries lately, offender wearing gloves. No chance of finger prints. Faces covered so no CCTV. Cloned plates.
It would be nice if it was like CSI Miami where its solved within the hour.
More police officers would mean less of a workload for everyone, more free time to be proactive.
coldel said:
Skip driver drove his truck into our car parked on our road and wrote it off, we had witnesses and CCTV that caught the impact, he drove off without leaving details. Police caught up with them, they refused to even respond to correspondence until the day before the deadline which they replied again denying it. Police said there wasn't enough evidence to charge.
The police don't make the decision on whether or not there is enough evidence to charge. The CPS do.Tim bo said:
coldel said:
Skip driver drove his truck into our car parked on our road and wrote it off, we had witnesses and CCTV that caught the impact, he drove off without leaving details. Police caught up with them, they refused to even respond to correspondence until the day before the deadline which they replied again denying it. Police said there wasn't enough evidence to charge.
The police don't make the decision on whether or not there is enough evidence to charge. The CPS do.I get we are small fry in the grand scheme of things but on point, I can totally understand why car crime prosecution is down, its so far off their priority list - unless of course there is a nice big fine involved.
trickywoo said:
Gweeds said:
Currently on 5Live.
Insane numbers. It's almost like massively cutting police generally and traffic police specifically has an impact.
The police chap being interviewed also has few good things to say about keyless entry and how easy that's made things.
Police numbers aren’t the story imo. It’s their inefficiency as much as anything.Insane numbers. It's almost like massively cutting police generally and traffic police specifically has an impact.
The police chap being interviewed also has few good things to say about keyless entry and how easy that's made things.
Have a look on YouTube for the folks who like to film buildings (legally) and see how many plod turn up at short notice and then hang around longer than they need to.
Gweeds said:
Currently on 5Live.
Insane numbers. It's almost like massively cutting police generally and traffic police specifically has an impact.
The police chap being interviewed also has few good things to say about keyless entry and how easy that's made things.
Afaik most new cars have a motion sensor in the keyfob and shortly after keys are set down the keyfob stops transmitting the signal. Keyless entry crime effectively killed off.Insane numbers. It's almost like massively cutting police generally and traffic police specifically has an impact.
The police chap being interviewed also has few good things to say about keyless entry and how easy that's made things.
TX.
In fairness, I had a car nicked last year, and was contacted several times by the forensic boys. A few weeks back I had another contact from the police for a statement as they are prosecuting someone for it. Whether he'll be convicted I don't know, but in this case they certainly seemed to be doing ok.
Leicester Loyal said:
The police in this country are generally useless. Got no respect for them, wkers.
Stupid headlines lead to stupid statements like this. We have become a nation of headlines and buzzwords. Nobody cares to put any context around them.
Unlikely, but its possible the Police caught 90%+ of the thieves, but the courts/system only managed to convict 1% of them.
tejr said:
Stupid headlines lead to stupid statements like this.
We have become a nation of headlines and buzzwords. Nobody cares to put any context around them.
Unlikely, but its possible the Police caught 90%+ of the thieves, but the courts/system only managed to convict 1% of them.
I'd say that last statement is very unlikely.We have become a nation of headlines and buzzwords. Nobody cares to put any context around them.
Unlikely, but its possible the Police caught 90%+ of the thieves, but the courts/system only managed to convict 1% of them.
What's their record on Yorkshire grooming gangs? Seems pretty poor too imo.
I'm not saying the courts are any better either btw, our justice system as a whole seems pretty poor, lack of prison space, repeat offenders etc. The whole thing is just poor, from the top to the bottom.
I realise this isn't about a car but..
We had two expensive and unusual mountain bikes pinched out of our garage, cost new circa £2k each.
I managed replace my wifes version the next day with an identical one purchased off a friend of ours.
The Police had attended to take a statement off me and were sitting outside the house having a doughnut or similar when my wife rode passed them and up the drive on her replacement bike.
Plod never batted an eye. You thought they might have noticed something.
We had two expensive and unusual mountain bikes pinched out of our garage, cost new circa £2k each.
I managed replace my wifes version the next day with an identical one purchased off a friend of ours.
The Police had attended to take a statement off me and were sitting outside the house having a doughnut or similar when my wife rode passed them and up the drive on her replacement bike.
Plod never batted an eye. You thought they might have noticed something.
andygo said:
I realise this isn't about a car but..
We had two expensive and unusual mountain bikes pinched out of our garage, cost new circa £2k each.
I managed replace my wifes version the next day with an identical one purchased off a friend of ours.
The Police had attended to take a statement off me and were sitting outside the house having a doughnut or similar when my wife rode passed them and up the drive on her replacement bike.
Plod never batted an eye. You thought they might have noticed something.
That sort of theft barely raises an eyebrow - I had six bikes stolen a few years ago and the police only bothered to come out on the basis that the value of them (£13k or so). Other than that nothing really and because the garage wasn't connected to the house it wasn't a priority.We had two expensive and unusual mountain bikes pinched out of our garage, cost new circa £2k each.
I managed replace my wifes version the next day with an identical one purchased off a friend of ours.
The Police had attended to take a statement off me and were sitting outside the house having a doughnut or similar when my wife rode passed them and up the drive on her replacement bike.
Plod never batted an eye. You thought they might have noticed something.
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