DVLA has added an automatic only restriction to my license
Discussion
Muzzer79 said:
OP - one often has to give a copy of a driving licence as ID for various legal things, aswell as work stuff. Worth trawling through that to see if you can get a copy of your licence showing manual classification?
There is a fatal flaw with this. You copy the front of your photocard. You turn it over to copy the back, which is where the Auto only would be against category "B".But you can't prove that the front and back are of the same card, because the driver number on the front doesn't appear on the back. So the DVLA might say that's the back of someone else's licence.
When I was learning to drive, it was common knowledge that only Americans and people too uncoordinated to drive a manual who took the test in an automatic.
With that out of the way...
This sounds like something that the DVLA's system should constrain - I assume without perhaps losing a licence somehow and retaking a test in an automatic, you shouldn't be able to just change a licence type fromfull manual or automatic, to automatic only?
With that out of the way...
This sounds like something that the DVLA's system should constrain - I assume without perhaps losing a licence somehow and retaking a test in an automatic, you shouldn't be able to just change a licence type from
M4cruiser said:
There is a fatal flaw with this. You copy the front of your photocard. You turn it over to copy the back, which is where the Auto only would be against category "B".
But you can't prove that the front and back are of the same card, because the driver number on the front doesn't appear on the back. So the DVLA might say that's the back of someone else's licence.
I don't have a single copy of the back of my license, because noone has ever asked me for one!But you can't prove that the front and back are of the same card, because the driver number on the front doesn't appear on the back. So the DVLA might say that's the back of someone else's licence.
768 said:
When I was learning to drive, it was common knowledge that only Americans and people too uncoordinated to drive a manual who took the test in an automatic.
I think it's different now. With hybrids and electric, and the massive improvement in modern small engined autos, there's a lot of young people learning on autos only. It's easier, hence less lessons and so cheaper. My nephew is an independent driving instructor who has just changed to auto, because that's where the demand is.I doubt I'll ever own a manual car again, and both my sons, in their 20s, who have manual licences, wouldn't consider buying a manual.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
hence less lessons
er fewer? 
To the OP, it sounds like your test pass probably got entered incorrectly and you've always had an auto only licence. I suspect that the most expedient way out of this is to take a new test. Irritating though that is.
And I'm surprised that no-one has been churlish enough yet to point out it's licence, not licence. Well I certainly won't be doing that.
Good luck.
Bert
Oilchange said:
The photocard is just a photocard, it simply states, incorrectly, what his licence allows. His unique driving licence number should show what he can drive and it will be on the dvla records.
Unfortunately, the photo card is printed out using the data that the DVLA has on record - so it is the data held on the system that is wrong, and that has led to the card being printed as it is.As several others have pointed out, there was a spate of this a while back with motorcycle licence holders losing their entitlement to ride. Many had to retake their test to correct the problem - the DVLA will not take your word for it and will not arbitrarily give someone entitlement to a category they haven't got proof of obtaining
Oilchange said:
Farcical isn't it. I hope it all gets resolved.
You have my sympathies.
Yep. The most imcompetent governmemt agency ever. Atleast accoprding the the people who investigate unresolved complaints against givernment agencys.You have my sympathies.
What i can say, is if you say you will take it to them, the DVLA will jump through hoops to stop that happening!
There is process to follow on the website. Follow it and escalate as fast as possible.
I lost my motorcycle entitlement when i swapped from a paper license.
The only proof they would accept, was a copy of my pass certificate - the one i sent to them in 1991. Photocopies that i took of my paper licence and even ones that my employers took were not deemed sufficient evidence.
Properly f
ks me off
The only proof they would accept, was a copy of my pass certificate - the one i sent to them in 1991. Photocopies that i took of my paper licence and even ones that my employers took were not deemed sufficient evidence.
Properly f
ks me off WinstonWolf said:
TBH I *expect* government departments to fk up, I'm pleasantly surprised when they don't...
You mustn't get surprised very often? If we made some of the cockups that the Civil Service do we would probably end up in extremely hot water if not in court, but we just expect it from them.k up, I'm pleasantly surprised when they don't...MKnight702 said:
WinstonWolf said:
TBH I *expect* government departments to fk up, I'm pleasantly surprised when they don't...
You mustn't get surprised very often? If we made some of the cockups that the Civil Service do we would probably end up in extremely hot water if not in court, but we just expect it from them.k up, I'm pleasantly surprised when they don't..."Nope, not our land".
"Yes it is, there are council signs on it etc"
Cue about ten emails back and forth with the inevitable conclusion...
"Oh yeah, so it is"
littlebasher said:
I lost my motorcycle entitlement when i swapped from a paper license.
The only proof they would accept, was a copy of my pass certificate - the one i sent to them in 1991. Photocopies that i took of my paper licence and even ones that my employers took were not deemed sufficient evidence.
Properly fks me off
WTF?The only proof they would accept, was a copy of my pass certificate - the one i sent to them in 1991. Photocopies that i took of my paper licence and even ones that my employers took were not deemed sufficient evidence.
Properly f
ks me off I don't understand the logic behind that.
I've seen similar happen a few times OP, the only proof of the original entitlement DVLA will accept is the test pass certificate, the original, not a photocopy. If you don't have that you are screwed, it's not right but that's the way it is. Getting a few lessons and a test in a manual is the easiest solution. We've had people take car and trailer tests to 'upgrade' back to a manual again as it was the quickest way to do it. You risk prosecution if you drive a manual car before it's sorted.
This got me looking at the back of my photocard license (license was originally issued in 1989).
In Category A (little picture of a motorbike) it shows valid from 19.01.13 to my 70th birthday. A1 and A2 just have dashes.
The internet suggests this is a full motorbike license but I'm not sure about that!
In Category A (little picture of a motorbike) it shows valid from 19.01.13 to my 70th birthday. A1 and A2 just have dashes.
The internet suggests this is a full motorbike license but I'm not sure about that!
Mark V GTD said:
This got me looking at the back of my photocard license (license was originally issued in 1989).
In Category A (little picture of a motorbike) it shows valid from 19.01.13 to my 70th birthday. A1 and A2 just have dashes.
The internet suggests this is a full motorbike license but I'm not sure about that!
That’s right though. I’ve just done my direct access bike test and only have dates next to category A, A1 and 2 are just dashes as I’ve never held those licenses. In Category A (little picture of a motorbike) it shows valid from 19.01.13 to my 70th birthday. A1 and A2 just have dashes.
The internet suggests this is a full motorbike license but I'm not sure about that!
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