Advice on whether to report a theft from a Main Dealer site.
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I'm genuinely baffled if i've said something on this thread that sees me in a negative light. I've said stealing is wrong but it's not worth the time to complain over £3 (not because i'm loaded but because I value my time and wouldn't want the drama) and I think contacting the Police over £3 (left with the expectation it would be stolen lets not forget) is pathetic. I also wouldn't feel good about myself if someone lost their job after taking a few quid out of my car, regardless of if they deserved it or not. I'm not sure why any of this marks me out as a wrong-un.
McGee_22 said:
Rather than reading just the last post perhaps you should you read the thread.
Does it go something like this?OP: something bad has happened, I think I should do X. Am I right?
Lots of replies: Yes you are.
OP: great thanks.
Not as many replies: actually, I think you aren’t and I’d do something different.
OP: well you are wrong, and I won’t let it go until I have proved it!
Rewe said:
Does it go something like this?
No.RB Will said:
Forgotten theOP so sorry if this has been covered but was this at a main dealer sort of place where your car gets washed on every visit?
If so I’d say it was likely one of the car cleaners than a mechanic. Easy to say oops accidentally hoovered it up. They will be earning half or less than the mechanics and have much less worry about being sacked. Mechanics in an area tend to know each other so if you were known to be sacked for stealing good luck getting a job in the same area.
At the last dealership I was working at there could be up to about 6 people who had been in or worked on the car so unless you have them on cam hard to know who did it.
The DP should probably offer you a free oil change or valet and then do a briefing with everyone at the dealership saying that it is known people are stealing from cars, next person caught will be made an example of
Spot on. Big dealership, lots of mechanics as well as externally contracted cleaners/valeters, and probably a few hangers on who move cars around too.If so I’d say it was likely one of the car cleaners than a mechanic. Easy to say oops accidentally hoovered it up. They will be earning half or less than the mechanics and have much less worry about being sacked. Mechanics in an area tend to know each other so if you were known to be sacked for stealing good luck getting a job in the same area.
At the last dealership I was working at there could be up to about 6 people who had been in or worked on the car so unless you have them on cam hard to know who did it.
The DP should probably offer you a free oil change or valet and then do a briefing with everyone at the dealership saying that it is known people are stealing from cars, next person caught will be made an example of
It's all supposition but I would expect those who have more to lose by being found out as a thief would be less likely to do it so quite possibly not a mechanic with perhaps a pension or career ahead of them. The Service Manager did allude to this during our brief conversation with him.
Edited by McGee_22 on Sunday 23 February 18:46
On a slightly different note , I have a dash cam with a 128GB memory card , in The Aston , that would normally loop around 48hrs of recording
Car was recovered by Aston Services to a main dealership after an emission issue, instead of 48hrs there was a delay in picking up the car ( 7 days while i was in hospital )
I was Surprised when i got the Aston back ,after i removed the SD card expecting it to show the car static parked in a compound , and instead it had recorded the recovery up till the car reached the dealership , where upon presumably a mechanic had pulled out the power lead ...
I was annoyed as if i'd had an accident on my way home the camera would not have recorded it , is this normal practice in dealerships these days ??
bizarre
DBSV8 said:
On a slightly different note , I have a dash cam with a 128GB memory card , in The Aston , that would normally loop around 48hrs of recording
Car was recovered by Aston Services to a main dealership after an emission issue, instead of 48hrs there was a delay in picking up the car ( 7 days while i was in hospital )
I was Surprised when i got the Aston back ,after i removed the SD card expecting it to show the car static parked in a compound , and instead it had recorded the recovery up till the car reached the dealership , where upon presumably a mechanic had pulled out the power lead ...
I was annoyed as if i'd had an accident on my way home the camera would not have recorded it , is this normal practice in dealerships these days ??
bizarre
I don’t think the service department like being under surveillance. Pretty standard practice I believe.Car was recovered by Aston Services to a main dealership after an emission issue, instead of 48hrs there was a delay in picking up the car ( 7 days while i was in hospital )
I was Surprised when i got the Aston back ,after i removed the SD card expecting it to show the car static parked in a compound , and instead it had recorded the recovery up till the car reached the dealership , where upon presumably a mechanic had pulled out the power lead ...
I was annoyed as if i'd had an accident on my way home the camera would not have recorded it , is this normal practice in dealerships these days ??
bizarre
ging84 said:
oyster said:
There’s no level of moral standards on theft. A small theft is not ok.
If you think it is then you need to grow up.
Grow upIf you think it is then you need to grow up.
What does age have to do with it?
The legal standard on theft is clear
You take £3 out of someone's ash tray that's theft
You work as a salesman and you sell someone a finance package which charges someone an extra £500 in interest compared to the best rate you could have set, to earn yourself extra commission, not.
You can believe the morality is also just as clearcut, but I do not and you be wasting your time trying to convince me of anything after demonstrating such obviously prejudiced views.
Unless you mean a prejudice against thieves? I certainly have that.
Proud of such a prejudice.
McGee_22 said:
No, this is where you are completely wrong, as most people would not consider taking it.
Theft is theft, even three pounds as you agreed in another post, yet you said you're pretty sure you might take it. This is actually beyond condoning theft, this is saying you might thieve yourself.
You have tried to get out of this and your other statement regarding the percentage of thefts in the workplace but quite simply you are condoning theft from an individual and going still further saying you might well do it yourself.
The arrogance of this post is beyond belief.Theft is theft, even three pounds as you agreed in another post, yet you said you're pretty sure you might take it. This is actually beyond condoning theft, this is saying you might thieve yourself.
You have tried to get out of this and your other statement regarding the percentage of thefts in the workplace but quite simply you are condoning theft from an individual and going still further saying you might well do it yourself.
I have clarified multiple times that I was not condoning theft.
Who is in a better place to know what I am or am not condoning.
At worse I've expressed myself with the wrong choice of words, at worse you are deliberately misrepresenting me.
What did I say that is so unambiguously condoning theft that it outweigh me saying 3 times that I was not.
Had a similar theft from my car many years ago - although it was an airport valet parking company rather than a dealer service. It was annoying, and I chose not to use that company again but can't say I considered telling the police.
In the strictest sense of the word, theft is theft - but the world really isn't that simplistic. I didn't lose any sleep over the fact that somebody stole ~£10 in change from my car - it didn't really impact my life. I might have if they'd stolen the car itself, or managed to get £xxx out of my bank account.
The reality is that the police have to prioritise their work, and a theft of parking change from a car isn't going to be on their list (in fact, I doubt a £5k theft or a car theft is that high on the list either).
In the strictest sense of the word, theft is theft - but the world really isn't that simplistic. I didn't lose any sleep over the fact that somebody stole ~£10 in change from my car - it didn't really impact my life. I might have if they'd stolen the car itself, or managed to get £xxx out of my bank account.
The reality is that the police have to prioritise their work, and a theft of parking change from a car isn't going to be on their list (in fact, I doubt a £5k theft or a car theft is that high on the list either).
Several of the posters here seem to be thinking that the OP is expecting the police to investigate the theft. In his first post-
McGee_22 said:
My question is, should I report it to the Police and register it to enable a crime number to be generated and perhaps flag it up if other customers have had the same experience?
ging84 said:
The arrogance of this post is beyond belief.
I have clarified multiple times that I was not condoning theft.
Who is in a better place to know what I am or am not condoning.
At worse I've expressed myself with the wrong choice of words, at worse you are deliberately misrepresenting me.
What did I say that is so unambiguously condoning theft that it outweigh me saying 3 times that I was not.
This is what you said, it’s clear enough to me:-I have clarified multiple times that I was not condoning theft.
Who is in a better place to know what I am or am not condoning.
At worse I've expressed myself with the wrong choice of words, at worse you are deliberately misrepresenting me.
What did I say that is so unambiguously condoning theft that it outweigh me saying 3 times that I was not.
Mechanics really don't earn a lot i'm really not surprised some take a bit of loose change, i'm pretty sure I might
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
garyhun said:
I don’t think the service department like being under surveillance. Pretty standard practice I believe.
Same here. I have noticed the dashcam disconnected on a couple of my cars when inhave picked them up in the past.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff