RIP Ruth Bader Ginsburg

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-494...

Notorious RBG is gone.

With 22 Republican Senate seats at risk in November, the fight to appoint her successor will be tense.

Factoids: juristic and political enemies, RBG and Antonin Scalia were buddies in personal life. They went to the opera together for decades. Usually writing on opposing sides in split decisions, they wrote one Judicial Opinion together, holding Mareva Injunctions to be unconstitutional in the United States.

hutchst

3,699 posts

96 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Sad indeed, but perhaps there is something to be said for our approach to compulsory retirement. I expect we'll see some creative buns in the fight to postpone appointing a replacement before the election, one way or another.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...


The cynicism of the Reps with regard to the blocking of Garland in 2016 was something to behold.

Even if Biden wins, Trump will maintain a toxic legacy through his partisan appointments to the Federal Bench at all levels.

Obama apparently urged RBG to retire so that he could appoint a younger version of her in her place, but RBG, perhaps mistakenly, said no.

MC Bodge

21,620 posts

175 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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hutchst said:
Sad indeed, but perhaps there is something to be said for our approach to compulsory retirement.
Indeed.

And our approach to not being majorly divided over God/abortion and guns.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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A fund raiser called "Get Mitch or die trying" has been gaining approx US $2 million an hour since the news of RBG's death was announced.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...


The cynicism of the Reps with regard to the blocking of Garland in 2016 was something to behold.

Even if Biden wins, Trump will maintain a toxic legacy through his partisan appointments to the Federal Bench at all levels.

Obama apparently urged RBG to retire so that he could appoint a younger version of her in her place, but RBG, perhaps mistakenly, said no.
Putting that in context the Judge Kavanaugh was just a very toxic failed attempt to smear a judge with a clean record with some nutty pro demcrat lady who's story had more holes than swiss cheese.

Mark83

1,163 posts

201 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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A huge loss.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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surveyor_101 said:
Breadvan72 said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...


The cynicism of the Reps with regard to the blocking of Garland in 2016 was something to behold.

Even if Biden wins, Trump will maintain a toxic legacy through his partisan appointments to the Federal Bench at all levels.

Obama apparently urged RBG to retire so that he could appoint a younger version of her in her place, but RBG, perhaps mistakenly, said no.
Putting that in context the Judge Kavanaugh was just a very toxic failed attempt to smear a judge with a clean record with some nutty pro demcrat lady who's story had more holes than swiss cheese.
Are you kidding? The evidence against Kavanaugh was overwhelming. He is a disgrace to his office.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Unlike Gorsuch, but like many of the Trump Judges, Kavanaugh is also a very poor quality jurist. He should have been disqualified for his lack of technical ability, quite apart from his moral character.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
Are you kidding? The evidence against Kavanaugh was overwhelming. He is a disgrace to his office.
In terms of the assault claim by Ford, the FBI weren't of same opinion.

You may fault his performance as a judge I am not up to speed with that, so you may be right but the sex assault claim was a hatchet job by the demo-rats!

The fact that she changed her story several times and claimed to have called on a mobile phone which was not commercially available at the time! She also described the wrong street!


RDMcG

19,139 posts

207 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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There is a slight possibility that Romney will organize a resistance to the appointment of a new judge prior to the election. There are a number of vulnerable GOP senators like Susan Collins from Maine who could swing the vote.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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surveyor_101 said:
Breadvan72 said:
Are you kidding? The evidence against Kavanaugh was overwhelming. He is a disgrace to his office.
In terms of the assault claim by Ford, the FBI weren't of same opinion.

You may fault his performance as a judge I am not up to speed with that, so you may be right but the sex assault claim was a hatchet job by the demo-rats!

The fact that she changed her story several times and claimed to have called on a mobile phone which was not commercially available at the time! She also described the wrong street!
You have , as you always do on all issues, fallen for a lot of nonsense that suits your deeply ill informed far right world view. Maybe one day you will become better informed.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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RDMcG said:
There is a slight possibility that Romney will organize a resistance to the appointment of a new judge prior to the election. There are a number of vulnerable GOP senators like Susan Collins from Maine who could swing the vote.
Collins is very vulnerable, and it only needs her, Romney, and one other GOP Senator to hold off an appointment until after the election.

McConnell, by the way, who knows no shame, was calling for a Senate vote within an hour or so of RBG's death being announced. This is the same McConnell who decreed that in 2016 there could be no appointment in an election year, because the US people must have a voice in the appointment.

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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RDMcG said:
There is a slight possibility that Romney will organize a resistance to the appointment of a new judge prior to the election. There are a number of vulnerable GOP senators like Susan Collins from Maine who could swing the vote.
Apparently Romney and sen. Lisa Murkowski are saying no vote until Jan 21 (after the inauguration).

National Review said:
Sen. Murkowski Says Confirming Supreme Court Nominee in 2020 Would Be 'Double Standard'

SmoothCriminal

5,053 posts

199 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
RDMcG said:
There is a slight possibility that Romney will organize a resistance to the appointment of a new judge prior to the election. There are a number of vulnerable GOP senators like Susan Collins from Maine who could swing the vote.
McConnell, by the way, who knows no shame, was calling for a Senate vote within an hour or so of RBG's death being announced. This is the same McConnell who decreed that in 2016 there could be no appointment in an election year, because the US people must have a voice in the appointment.
Yes that is because the president and the Senate were of opposing parties, at the current time this is not the case.



surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
You have , as you always do on all issues, fallen for a lot of nonsense that suits your deeply ill informed far right world view. Maybe one day you will become better informed.
So the FBI didn't say there was a no case. Aside from the fact Ford never reported the incident to anyone until years later she mentioned an assault vaguely under therapy. Then Kavanagh rises to Federal Judge and she says noting, all of sudden he is in the frame for a republican position and the democrats can't afford to lose and she being an anti trump pro democrat says oh yeh it was him, I can't remember much but it was him even her friend can't remember Kavanagh and Ford meeting!


Its funny how someone tells you that your are right wing and wrong they don't attempt to present facts or in this disprove my statements.


Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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surveyor_101 said:
So the FBI didn't say there was a no case. Aside from the fact Ford never reported the incident to anyone until years later she mentioned an assault vaguely under therapy. Then Kavanagh rises to Federal Judge and she says noting, all of sudden he is in the frame for a republican position and the democrats can't afford to lose and she being an anti trump pro democrat says oh yeh it was him, I can't remember much but it was him even her friend can't remember Kavanagh and Ford meeting!


Its funny how someone tells you that your are right wing and wrong they don't attempt to present facts or in this disprove my statements.
It's not uncommon for a traumatic sexual assault to go unreported for many years or even for it to have been ignored by the authorities for many years.

It could well be that the possibility of his appointment meant that she felt she finally felt she had no choice other than to speak out. She simply couldn't try to bury her feelings any longer.

I haven't seen any evidence or examined the facts so I offer no opinion. What you describe is very plausible and not actually strange at all. That's all I'm offering

anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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SmoothCriminal said:
Breadvan72 said:
RDMcG said:
There is a slight possibility that Romney will organize a resistance to the appointment of a new judge prior to the election. There are a number of vulnerable GOP senators like Susan Collins from Maine who could swing the vote.
McConnell, by the way, who knows no shame, was calling for a Senate vote within an hour or so of RBG's death being announced. This is the same McConnell who decreed that in 2016 there could be no appointment in an election year, because the US people must have a voice in the appointment.
Yes that is because the president and the Senate were of opposing parties, at the current time this is not the case.

That is a feeble argument. There is about to be an election that may change the control of the White House and the Senate.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
That is a feeble argument. There is about to be an election that may change the control of the White House and the Senate.
Unless there is mass voting fraud looking at democrat controlled cities and there assistance to BLM rioters to burn down parts of the US I can't imagine it being other than a Trump win.

No matter what your views on him the Biden is clearly over the hill and just a figure head being controlled by the Clintons.

Trump seems to have calmed down this election and seems to be much calmer in his interviews without making statements them seem unwise.

He has not started a war like most presidents and got an Iran peace deal.



anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Your opinions are so risible that they are not worth engaging with, but your ignorance of the facts shines through. Iran peace deal? You really, really, really need to start looking some stuff up. It must be very hard to navigate through life under such a cloud of unreason and prejudice, but help is out there.