RIP Ruth Bader Ginsburg
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This aspect of the US judiciary is far too political. Appointments should have nothing to do with who is currently in office.
surveyor_101 said:
So the FBI didn't say there was a no case.
What's the source for this? BBC said:
"They report any corroborating information that they obtain, or any contradicting information," former FBI Assistant Director Chris Swecker told CNN, but added that "they do not make conclusions" in their reports.
Former FBI Assistant Director Steve Pomerantz told Fox News: "Hopefully they provide enough information within their reports that allow a reasonable person to reach a conclusion based on the work that they've done."
Because it is not a criminal inquiry, witnesses were not compelled to co-operate with the investigation, but lying to an FBI agent does carry the threat of federal charges.
Former FBI Assistant Director Steve Pomerantz told Fox News: "Hopefully they provide enough information within their reports that allow a reasonable person to reach a conclusion based on the work that they've done."
Because it is not a criminal inquiry, witnesses were not compelled to co-operate with the investigation, but lying to an FBI agent does carry the threat of federal charges.
surveyor_101 said:
Unless there is mass voting fraud looking at democrat controlled cities and there assistance to BLM rioters to burn down parts of the US I can't imagine it being other than a Trump win.
No matter what your views on him the Biden is clearly over the hill and just a figure head being controlled by the Clintons.
Trump seems to have calmed down this election and seems to be much calmer in his interviews without making statements them seem unwise.
He has not started a war like most presidents and got an Iran peace deal.
2/10No matter what your views on him the Biden is clearly over the hill and just a figure head being controlled by the Clintons.
Trump seems to have calmed down this election and seems to be much calmer in his interviews without making statements them seem unwise.
He has not started a war like most presidents and got an Iran peace deal.
You failed to mention the deep state and Soros.
Anyway, RIP RBG, a battle bravely fought.
Trump’s ego will not allow him to pursue this strategy, but it would seem that proclaiming he will not be nominating a replacement for RBG until after he is re-elected is a sound way of strengthening his campaign.
The premise goes something like “you might not like me and you might not agree with everything I’ve done but if you vote for me I will ensure an overwhelming conservative SCOTUS majority for a generation”. Conversely if he were able to rush an appointment through before the election then the motivating driver for a substantial portion of his support to go out to vote for him disappears overnight.
The premise goes something like “you might not like me and you might not agree with everything I’ve done but if you vote for me I will ensure an overwhelming conservative SCOTUS majority for a generation”. Conversely if he were able to rush an appointment through before the election then the motivating driver for a substantial portion of his support to go out to vote for him disappears overnight.
Sen. Lindsay Graham said:
"I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."
Twitter link with videosurveyor_101 said:
No matter what your views on him the Biden is clearly over the hill and just a figure head being controlled by the Clintons.
The card company?
surveyor_101 said:
Trump seems to have calmed down this election and seems to be much calmer in his interviews without making statements them seem unwise.
He has not started a war like most presidents and got an Iran peace deal.
He hasn't started any foreign wars.He has not started a war like most presidents and got an Iran peace deal.
I'm not sure about this Iran peace deal...
Trump constantly makes unwise statements. Not a week goes by without some awful words coming from his mouth.
The biggest fear for the liberals is - as we often see on forums including this one - their intolerance of anyone trying to argue Trump might not be all bad, has led (again) to people being afraid or not wanting the hassle of admitting they will vote for him when asked.....but that in the privacy of the voting booth it all becomes another story indeed.
I'm not sure Trump can ride out the endless and often fanatical abuse of everything he does or touches but the fact he is closing the gap (somewhat) in polls and Biden now has to talk and perform more (which he does not do well) we could be headed for a surprisingly squeaky bum time in November.
It was Clinton's to lose and she did. Biden is eerily moving into that same position.
I'm not sure Trump can ride out the endless and often fanatical abuse of everything he does or touches but the fact he is closing the gap (somewhat) in polls and Biden now has to talk and perform more (which he does not do well) we could be headed for a surprisingly squeaky bum time in November.
It was Clinton's to lose and she did. Biden is eerily moving into that same position.
MC Bodge said:
surveyor_101 said:
No matter what your views on him the Biden is clearly over the hill and just a figure head being controlled by the Clintons.
The card company?
surveyor_101 said:
Trump seems to have calmed down this election and seems to be much calmer in his interviews without making statements them seem unwise.
He has not started a war like most presidents and got an Iran peace deal.
He hasn't started any foreign wars.He has not started a war like most presidents and got an Iran peace deal.
I'm not sure about this Iran peace deal...
Trump constantly makes unwise statements. Not a week goes by without some awful words coming from his mouth.
A good piece on the career of RBG. There is also a documentary about her, and a Hollywood movie about her early career. My sixteen year old daughter is sad at the passing of one of her feminist icons, but says that RBG remains an inspiration to her.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep...
Breadvan72 said:
A good piece on the career of RBG. There is also a documentary about her, and a Hollywood movie about her early career. My sixteen year old daughter is sad at the passing of one of her feminist icons, but says that RBG remains an inspiration to her.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep...
Yes good piece, https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep...
I pondered with hindsight; perhaps she should have listened to Obama About a successor whilst he was still in office, as now there is a risk to her legacy.
Also I can’t help at being concerned that positions such as hers should ever have a political slant. The judiciary must always be and remain above politics.
BBC News 24 also shoed an interview with RBG from couple of years ago. Despite being in her 80's she was wise and considered in her answers, and humble on receipt of an award.
Re Roe v Wade she made the point that before that landmark the rich could avail of abortion. Just like the rich could 'live' in Nevada for 6 weeks, and obtain a divorce before returning home.
It's the poor, those in bad situations economically and socially who were abandoned by society. I think her view is still relevant today.
Re Roe v Wade she made the point that before that landmark the rich could avail of abortion. Just like the rich could 'live' in Nevada for 6 weeks, and obtain a divorce before returning home.
It's the poor, those in bad situations economically and socially who were abandoned by society. I think her view is still relevant today.
HarryW said:
Yes good piece,
I pondered with hindsight; perhaps she should have listened to Obama About a successor whilst he was still in office, as now there is a risk to her legacy.
Also I can’t help at being concerned that positions such as hers should ever have a political slant. The judiciary must always be and remain above politics.
RBG should have heeded Obama.I pondered with hindsight; perhaps she should have listened to Obama About a successor whilst he was still in office, as now there is a risk to her legacy.
Also I can’t help at being concerned that positions such as hers should ever have a political slant. The judiciary must always be and remain above politics.
One of the defects of the US Constitution is that SCOTUS has become a politicised body. This may have been inevitable once Marbury v Madison was decided in the early decades of the Republic, and the Court was mucho politico in the years before and after the Civil War, but SCOTUS really became the political battleground that is now is from about the 1970s.
If Trump is blocked from appointing a Judge before the election, and he then loses but litigates to overturn the result, a 5 to 3 conservative to liberal court may have to rule on his challenge. If push comes to shove, I think that Roberts and Gorsuch will uphold the Constitution and not bow to a Trump bid to stay in power if he has lost, but look what happened in the Gore v Bush election. The conservative majority in effect apointed the unelected Bush President, in what some saw at the time as a judicial coup d'etat.
Breadvan72 said:
Unlike Gorsuch, but like many of the Trump Judges, Kavanaugh is also a very poor quality jurist. He should have been disqualified for his lack of technical ability, quite apart from his moral character.
The ones on Trump's list to replace RBG(like that's possible!) are ,I have read, similarly bad-inexperienced and whose sole qualifications are young and right wing. Same as the ones for the Circuit Appeals Courts rammed through by McConnell.MC Bodge said:
surveyor_101 said:
Trump seems to have calmed down this election and seems to be much calmer in his interviews without making statements them seem unwise.
He has not started a war like most presidents and got an Iran peace deal.
He hasn't started any foreign wars.He has not started a war like most presidents and got an Iran peace deal.
I'm not sure about this Iran peace deal...
Trump constantly makes unwise statements. Not a week goes by without some awful words coming from his mouth.
As far as the Neo-Con wing of the GOP goes he's been the perfect President because he'll do whatever you want as long as you flatter him.
kevinon said:
BBC News 24 also shoed an interview with RBG from couple of years ago. Despite being in her 80's she was wise and considered in her answers, and humble on receipt of an award.
Re Roe v Wade she made the point that before that landmark the rich could avail of abortion. Just like the rich could 'live' in Nevada for 6 weeks, and obtain a divorce before returning home.
It's the poor, those in bad situations economically and socially who were abandoned by society. I think her view is still relevant today.
I'm not pointing out anything new here, but abortion and a woman's own right to choose - rather than other people denying her the choice, for misguided religious reasons- still being an issue, and a major one at that, in the US (and Northern Ireland...) is just ridiculous. Re Roe v Wade she made the point that before that landmark the rich could avail of abortion. Just like the rich could 'live' in Nevada for 6 weeks, and obtain a divorce before returning home.
It's the poor, those in bad situations economically and socially who were abandoned by society. I think her view is still relevant today.
Tough time to be a democrat. Trump will appoint a right leaning judge, just as Obama would have appointed one to the left. That's politics and people can't have it both ways.
It will all change one day but for the next decade or two it's suck it up buttercup if you're a democrat.
Just like Republicans had to suffer two decades of Clinton and Obama.
It will all change one day but for the next decade or two it's suck it up buttercup if you're a democrat.
Just like Republicans had to suffer two decades of Clinton and Obama.
Taylor James said:
Tough time to be a democrat. Trump will appoint a right leaning judge, just as Obama would have appointed one to the left. That's politics and people can't have it both ways.
It will all change one day but for the next decade or two it's suck it up buttercup if you're a democrat.
Just like Republicans had to suffer two decades of Clinton and Obama.
It’s not so much about Dem vs Rep. The whole system - life appointments of politically partisan judges - is undemocratic; weirdly so considering we’re talking about “the world’s greatest democracy”. Imagine the USA lurches to the left in 8 years time (unlikely, I grant you) and both houses and the presidency are in Dem hands. The SCOTUS could continue to enact legislation that is explicitly against the will of the majority. There are plausible scenarios where the legal status of gay people and women in the States could become closer to that of folk in Russia than the U.K.It will all change one day but for the next decade or two it's suck it up buttercup if you're a democrat.
Just like Republicans had to suffer two decades of Clinton and Obama.
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