108 in a 30 limit

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Buster73

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5,043 posts

152 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Shall we have a sweep to see how long he’ll be going down for ?

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/see-mome...

RUSSELLM

6,000 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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If I’ve read it correctly, it says he faces up to 3 months for dangerous driving.

I thought that offence potentially carried more then that ?

Edit.... https://youtu.be/IAtI963qY8U

He does look a bit of a liability.

I presume the silver C3 driver, sees it approaching in the distance, and thinks “I’d best stay still, and hope for the best”

Edited by RUSSELLM on Saturday 3rd October 07:46

tejr

3,101 posts

163 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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How did they clock his speed and reg? From the footage alone?

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Think it's up to 2 years for the offence, however that's beyond the powers of magistrates- would need crown court for that length of sentence.

Assuming guilty plea at earliest opportunity, 30% discount, would have a maximum of 16 and a half months. To receive maximum sentence it would have to be at the top end scale of seriousness, which it isn't.

Previously of good character.

Could be anything but I bet well below an instant 12 month chokey. Perhaps something suspended?

ED209

5,740 posts

243 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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tejr said:
How did they clock his speed and reg? From the footage alone?
Speed calculated from that footage. There are a lot of other cameras around that area and the car could be tracked back to get a reg.

RUSSELLM

6,000 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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It looked like he stopped at traffic lights, in the distance. So I guess the dash cam vehicle could have eventually rolled up behind.




thebraketester

14,193 posts

137 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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I have seen some pretty stupid driving before, but that is definitely up there....

Hub

6,413 posts

197 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Well I'm sure we've all had a moment of madness or two in our time... but not quite that mad! eek 108. In a 30. Shocking! Unimaginable really

basherX

2,464 posts

160 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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It’s impossible to justify that driving. No doubt someone will be along in a minute to try to do so.

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

66 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Think it's up to 2 years for the offence, however that's beyond the powers of magistrates- would need crown court for that length of sentence.

Assuming guilty plea at earliest opportunity, 30% discount, would have a maximum of 16 and a half months. To receive maximum sentence it would have to be at the top end scale of seriousness, which it isn't.

Previously of good character.

Could be anything but I bet well below an instant 12 month chokey. Perhaps something suspended?
What is top end seriousness?

This seems worse to me than say, the guy filming himself doing insane speed on the motorway recently

2 GKC

1,884 posts

104 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Shouldn’t be allowed behind the wheel again for that.

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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2 GKC said:
Shouldn’t be allowed behind the wheel again for that.
Not often I agree with that kind of punishment, but it would absolutely fit in this case.

CoolHands

18,498 posts

194 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Why would someone of previously good character drive like that? I have ridden motorbikes at silly speeds in the past but still only where (you at least think you can) see potential hazards. Going in the wrong side near past that crossing etc is mentalness esp at that speed

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Teddy Lop said:
What is top end seriousness?

This seems worse to me than say, the guy filming himself doing insane speed on the motorway recently
Someone evading the police at high speed, crashing into things all over the place whilst high on drugs and carrying young, unrestrained children in the back in an unroadworthy car narrowly missing the primary school children as they leave school, eventually smashing headlong into the local drop-in centre for disabled children, destroying their entire fleet of wheelchairs and some diagnostic equipment it took them 5 years of fundraising to buy, all whilst uninsured. Then sitting no remorse tells everybody to fk off and in court says he'd do it again tomorrow.

Something like that.

CanAm

9,115 posts

271 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Someone evading the police at high speed, crashing into things all over the place whilst high on drugs and carrying young, unrestrained children in the back in an unroadworthy car narrowly missing the primary school children as they leave school, eventually smashing headlong into the local drop-in centre for disabled children, destroying their entire fleet of wheelchairs and some diagnostic equipment it took them 5 years of fundraising to buy, all whilst uninsured. Then sitting no remorse tells everybody to fk off and in court says he'd do it again tomorrow.

Something like that.
And then gets 100 hours of community service and fined £100 for driving while uninsured.

Piginapoke

4,737 posts

184 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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I’m really hoping someone’s going to argue it was fine because it wasn’t raining

agtlaw

6,680 posts

205 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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RUSSELLM said:
If I’ve read it correctly, it says he faces up to 3 months for dangerous driving.

I thought that offence potentially carried more then that?
6 months in a magistrates’ court. If sent to the crown court then 2 years.

The article quoted the prosecutor - who apparently said this may be determined to be a middle category case with a Starting Point of 3 months. The prosecutor wasn’t setting out the maximum and, unfortunately, the reporter misunderstood what was actually said.

Kawasicki

13,041 posts

234 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Terrible driving. The speed limit clearly needs to be reduced further.

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

77 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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CoolHands said:
Why would someone of previously good character drive like that? I have ridden motorbikes at silly speeds in the past but still only where (you at least think you can) see potential hazards. Going in the wrong side near past that crossing etc is mentalness esp at that speed
“Previously good character” just means never caught.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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agtlaw, on the facts as reported, would you care to hazard an educated guess as to the likely outcome?

I assume (1) that the oaf pleads guilty, and (2) that the only mitigation offerable is "moment of madness, good character, very sorry".

27 year old in a hotbox Merc - I bet that in fact he had been doing crazy stuff like this for a while, but suspicions as to that will not, of course, factor in to the sentencing.

ISTR within the last few weeks reading a poster here arguing (seriously) that there should be no speed limits anywhere. I wonder what that poster would think about this incident.