How to get items back from the Police, that they "lost"

How to get items back from the Police, that they "lost"

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bunchofkeys

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1,056 posts

68 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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A few weeks ago i started a thread about my boy being visited by the police for a stupid act, which has all now been resolved.

However, the equipment that was taken as evidence has not all been returned.
Of the 3 items taken as evidence, one has not come back and cannot be found in the storage room.

The mother to my son has apparently tried to speak the police on a number of occasions (how much of this is true i don't know), but they keep telling her that it's not there.

What steps can be taken to get them to either return the item or pay for a replacement, if that's even possible.
Or is it a matter of going down the route of speaking to home insurance and telling them the story for a replacement?
It was an iPad that is about 6 months old.

Thanks

Drezza

1,419 posts

54 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Were you given a list of what they took? Probably have to sue them if it's on the list, if not they'll just say they never had it.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Make a formal complaint via the force's website. As mentioned above, were you, or the boy, given a receipt?

98elise

26,574 posts

161 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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It seems bizarre that they can lose something that was possibly going to be used as evidence!


Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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98elise said:
It seems bizarre that they can lose something that was possibly going to be used as evidence!
The item itself probably wasn't. It's just a rectangle of metal and plastic once the data has been extracted.

KungFuPanda

4,332 posts

170 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Letter before action and then sue them for the cost of the item through the small claims court. It's pretty straight forward.

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

113 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Normally they give you a reciept when they seize stuff and make you go collect it if they are giving it back. Not sure if different with COVID. Have they sent it off for forensic analysis? That can take ages unless its a priority case and someone may have forgot to dot the i's and cross the t's with paperwork.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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bunchofkeys said:
The mother to my son has apparently tried to speak the police on a number of occasions (how much of this is true i don't know), but they keep telling her that it's not there.



Thanks
She's tried to?

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Quick google gives various websites about getting property back from the Police but this is probably the best:
https://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/getting-pr...

In your case, a formal complaint to the force concerned & subject to their response take it from there.
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q299.htm#:~:t...
I would suggest not using the 'by telephone' option.

Edited by paintman on Friday 19th February 18:03

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Did the officer dealing a. Issue a receipt for the seized items and b. Leave his contact details with you at the time of the visit and seizure.

Suggest contact the officer dealing initially for an explanation - if you dont have it already, your force control room will provide it.

If no joy within a few days - then submit a complaint

98elise

26,574 posts

161 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Pothole said:
98elise said:
It seems bizarre that they can lose something that was possibly going to be used as evidence!
The item itself probably wasn't. It's just a rectangle of metal and plastic once the data has been extracted.
Fair enough, however expensive items shouldn't just go missing while in police custody.

Camelot1971

2,699 posts

166 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Son has probably had it back and used it to bribe another girl into sending nudes tongue out

Durzel

12,265 posts

168 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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It’s not the cat, is it?

SmoothCriminal

5,057 posts

199 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Camelot1971 said:
Son has probably had it back and used it to bribe another girl into sending nudes tongue out
roflroflroflroflroflroflroflrofl

TVR1

5,463 posts

225 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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iPad 6 months old so built in GSM card? First port of call for me would be download find my iPhone (if you don’t already have it) and find its last location. If it’s been powered up at all, it’ll show last location, even if you’ve cancelled your contract.

I’m assuming there must be an apple account associated to the device?

If you haven’t associated the iPad with your ‘phone it’s easy to do. You would have had to accept 2 factor authentication, so you don’t need to be able to access the iPad.

HTHelps?

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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98elise said:
Pothole said:
98elise said:
It seems bizarre that they can lose something that was possibly going to be used as evidence!
The item itself probably wasn't. It's just a rectangle of metal and plastic once the data has been extracted.
Fair enough, however expensive items shouldn't just go missing while in police custody.
The seized items should have been booked into the force property management system. Any subsequent booking out of the property for examination etc will leave an audit trail as to whos handled it etc.

TVR1

5,463 posts

225 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Bigends said:
The seized items should have been booked into the force property management system. Any subsequent booking out of the property for examination etc will leave an audit trail as to whos handled it etc.
Unless, of course, someone thought they’d take a chance on what they think is an easily sellable/valuable piece of electronic equipment so didn’t bother.

Booking in, whatever the industry, is the infallible part. If someone then makes it ‘disappear’ unless really stupid, it just walks.

25 years in the motor trade will attest to very valuable parts, sometimes whole engines, just not ‘being there’ come audit time.

An old saying, if you think there’s no one on the take at the dealership, it’s only ‘Cos you haven’t found them yet...

Terzo123

4,311 posts

208 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Although no further action is being taken against the son, that doesn't necessarily mean the item will be returned.

If the device contains certain types of images it will be sent for destruction.

To return the property would technically mean the police were distributing the images.

It all depends on the age of persons and type of images involved.

Folk who are not prosecuted for drug offences don't get the drugs back.

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Terzo123 said:
Although no further action is being taken against the son, that doesn't necessarily mean the item will be returned.

If the device contains certain types of images it will be sent for destruction.

To return the property would technically mean the police were distributing the images.

It all depends on the age of persons and type of images involved.

Folk who are not prosecuted for drug offences don't get the drugs back.
A destruction order will need to be made and the owner informed of this course of action - Police cant just destroy it

Terzo123

4,311 posts

208 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Bigends said:
Terzo123 said:
Although no further action is being taken against the son, that doesn't necessarily mean the item will be returned.

If the device contains certain types of images it will be sent for destruction.

To return the property would technically mean the police were distributing the images.

It all depends on the age of persons and type of images involved.

Folk who are not prosecuted for drug offences don't get the drugs back.
A destruction order will need to be made and the owner informed of this course of action - Police cant just destroy it
Its been a while since I dealt with productions up North but the OIC would be able to make the decision, especially if the case isn't even going to court. An update justifying the reason for destruction on the crime report would suffice.

And the owner would be informed.







Edited by Terzo123 on Friday 19th February 21:57