How to get items back from the Police, that they "lost"
Discussion
TVR1 said:
Unless, of course, someone thought they’d take a chance on what they think is an easily sellable/valuable piece of electronic equipment so didn’t bother.
Booking in, whatever the industry, is the infallible part. If someone then makes it ‘disappear’ unless really stupid, it just walks.
25 years in the motor trade will attest to very valuable parts, sometimes whole engines, just not ‘being there’ come audit time.
An old saying, if you think there’s no one on the take at the dealership, it’s only ‘Cos you haven’t found them yet...
Give over. With all due respect the Police ain't the motor trade.Booking in, whatever the industry, is the infallible part. If someone then makes it ‘disappear’ unless really stupid, it just walks.
25 years in the motor trade will attest to very valuable parts, sometimes whole engines, just not ‘being there’ come audit time.
An old saying, if you think there’s no one on the take at the dealership, it’s only ‘Cos you haven’t found them yet...
It doesn't help the OP that he appears to be the Intermediary between mum and his son. Its been a few weeks, these things often take many months and without further details of the offence etc we won't have a scooby. Needless to say they will probably be checking it isn't stolen.
My advice is to get the collar number of the OIC and take it from there. Either mum or the OP becomes the central point of contact.
RipRideRocket said:
TVR1 said:
Unless, of course, someone thought they’d take a chance on what they think is an easily sellable/valuable piece of electronic equipment so didn’t bother.
Booking in, whatever the industry, is the infallible part. If someone then makes it ‘disappear’ unless really stupid, it just walks.
25 years in the motor trade will attest to very valuable parts, sometimes whole engines, just not ‘being there’ come audit time.
An old saying, if you think there’s no one on the take at the dealership, it’s only ‘Cos you haven’t found them yet...
Give over. With all due respect the Police ain't the motor trade.Booking in, whatever the industry, is the infallible part. If someone then makes it ‘disappear’ unless really stupid, it just walks.
25 years in the motor trade will attest to very valuable parts, sometimes whole engines, just not ‘being there’ come audit time.
An old saying, if you think there’s no one on the take at the dealership, it’s only ‘Cos you haven’t found them yet...
It doesn't help the OP that he appears to be the Intermediary between mum and his son. Its been a few weeks, these things often take many months and without further details of the offence etc we won't have a scooby. Needless to say they will probably be checking it isn't stolen.
My advice is to get the collar number of the OIC and take it from there. Either mum or the OP becomes the central point of contact.
Principle is the same. If it’s nickable, it will go.
TVR1 said:
Really, you do know that Police aren’t Gods? And most of the people who look after custody property are employed by 3rd party companies?
Principle is the same. If it’s nickable, it will go.
It has been known to happen, although given the state of some productions rooms, the majority of things are just simply misplaced and therefore lost within the storage areas. Principle is the same. If it’s nickable, it will go.
But who knows in this case, it may be entirely innocent and the device is winging its way back to the OP's son.
I'm sure the OP will find out in due course.
Terzo123 said:
TVR1 said:
Really, you do know that Police aren’t Gods? And most of the people who look after custody property are employed by 3rd party companies?
Principle is the same. If it’s nickable, it will go.
It has been known to happen, although given the state of some productions rooms, the majority of things are just simply misplaced and therefore lost within the storage areas. Principle is the same. If it’s nickable, it will go.
But who knows in this case, it may be entirely innocent and the device is winging its way back to the OP's son.
I'm sure the OP will find out in due course.
Hopefully just miss placed, but criminals and thieves, in all walks of life are often pretty stupid. If it’s sitting in the custody suite somewhere, all good. If it’s being used by an Officer/home address problem.
RipRideRocket said:
Give over. With all due respect the Police ain't the motor trade.
It doesn't help the OP that he appears to be the Intermediary between mum and his son. Its been a few weeks, these things often take many months and without further details of the offence etc we won't have a scooby. Needless to say they will probably be checking it isn't stolen.
My advice is to get the collar number of the OIC and take it from there. Either mum or the OP becomes the central point of contact.
Perhaps not. It doesn't help the OP that he appears to be the Intermediary between mum and his son. Its been a few weeks, these things often take many months and without further details of the offence etc we won't have a scooby. Needless to say they will probably be checking it isn't stolen.
My advice is to get the collar number of the OIC and take it from there. Either mum or the OP becomes the central point of contact.
I assume most people are honest. And I will do the right thing. But I’m also open to if it doesn’t make sense and it’s wrong, it probably is.
The higher the Power, the assumption is, higher the honesty.
Life doesn’t work like that.
TVR1 said:
RipRideRocket said:
TVR1 said:
Unless, of course, someone thought they’d take a chance on what they think is an easily sellable/valuable piece of electronic equipment so didn’t bother.
Booking in, whatever the industry, is the infallible part. If someone then makes it ‘disappear’ unless really stupid, it just walks.
25 years in the motor trade will attest to very valuable parts, sometimes whole engines, just not ‘being there’ come audit time.
An old saying, if you think there’s no one on the take at the dealership, it’s only ‘Cos you haven’t found them yet...
Give over. With all due respect the Police ain't the motor trade.Booking in, whatever the industry, is the infallible part. If someone then makes it ‘disappear’ unless really stupid, it just walks.
25 years in the motor trade will attest to very valuable parts, sometimes whole engines, just not ‘being there’ come audit time.
An old saying, if you think there’s no one on the take at the dealership, it’s only ‘Cos you haven’t found them yet...
It doesn't help the OP that he appears to be the Intermediary between mum and his son. Its been a few weeks, these things often take many months and without further details of the offence etc we won't have a scooby. Needless to say they will probably be checking it isn't stolen.
My advice is to get the collar number of the OIC and take it from there. Either mum or the OP becomes the central point of contact.
Principle is the same. If it’s nickable, it will go.
If you think a propery officer would bother taking an ipad and risk their liberty you're mistaken. If someone was going to steal there would be far more expensive less traceable options in a police propery store than some kids iPad full of dick pics.
OP - speak to the officer in charge of the case and go from there.
Op,you said “The mother to my son has apparently tried to speak the police on a number of occasions (how much of this is true i don't know), but they keep telling her that it's not there”.
You have then posted on here without apparently digging a little deeper as to what exactly she had done and exactly what she has been told.
As you are rightfully concerned,wouldn’t it be a better idea to deal with the situation yourself and start from scratch i.e. contacting the oic?
Then should you feel the need,you would be in a better position to post up with the actual facts and probably get some more targeted advice from people who may be able to advise you correctly.
You have then posted on here without apparently digging a little deeper as to what exactly she had done and exactly what she has been told.
As you are rightfully concerned,wouldn’t it be a better idea to deal with the situation yourself and start from scratch i.e. contacting the oic?
Then should you feel the need,you would be in a better position to post up with the actual facts and probably get some more targeted advice from people who may be able to advise you correctly.
Greendubber said:
Not in my force, no 3rd parties look after our property stores.
If you think a propery officer would bother taking an ipad and risk their liberty you're mistaken. If someone was going to steal there would be far more expensive less traceable options in a police propery store than some kids iPad full of dick pics.
OP - speak to the officer in charge of the case and go from there.
Having been in charge of a rather large dealer group that sounds like siner. I had a call a few years ago about ‘you’re guys are working hard’ I didn’t know you parts work on Sunday. It was a random conversation. Just a supplier passing by.If you think a propery officer would bother taking an ipad and risk their liberty you're mistaken. If someone was going to steal there would be far more expensive less traceable options in a police propery store than some kids iPad full of dick pics.
OP - speak to the officer in charge of the case and go from there.
On questioning, we didn’t have parts staff in on Sundays.
They where loading up everything and making it disappear.
Cost that dealer group about £3 million.
Had the same in Australia.
That one nearly cost 300 staff their jobs. Dealership nearly went under.
I’ve no time for thief’s. I still like to think the best of people but life has shown me the contrary, I’ll still assume honesty though. Even when I know someone is a thieving f
k.Like it or not, that’s what’s probably happened to OP’s iPad.
Edited by TVR1 on Friday 19th February 23:49
Greendubber said:
Not in my force, no 3rd parties look after our property stores.
If you think a propery officer would bother taking an ipad and risk their liberty you're mistaken. If someone was going to steal there would be far more expensive less traceable options in a police propery store than some kids iPad full of dick pics.
OP - speak to the officer in charge of the case and go from there.
I reckon, given a couple of weeks, I could get a job at your place, (I tried to email but you don't accept PM) if I knew where. If you think a propery officer would bother taking an ipad and risk their liberty you're mistaken. If someone was going to steal there would be far more expensive less traceable options in a police propery store than some kids iPad full of dick pics.
OP - speak to the officer in charge of the case and go from there.
Not as frontline staff. Just a cleaner etc.
I reckon within 6 weeks I could clear your holding room out.
I’m good like that.
When my wife died her new iPhone was taken, though from the coroner’s report nothing was ever found on it. Suspect that it was never investigated. Anyway, I assumed that it would come back on its own but it never did, and by the time I realised it wasn’t going to it was too late to chase. Phone company wrote it off in any case, but I do wonder who ended up several hundred quid’s worth of phone richer.
I’ve got several family and friends in the police, at different levels, different areas in different forces. They all told me the same thing, that anything nice or expensive or saleable in police stores, particularly lost items handed in will not last long and will just be taken.
Funnily a couple of years ago I handed in a bike worth about £1.5k which I was told would be returned to me unless anyone came forward claiming it. This mysteriously went “missing” from police stores never to be seen again so the force had to send me a cheque for £1.5k.
Funnily a couple of years ago I handed in a bike worth about £1.5k which I was told would be returned to me unless anyone came forward claiming it. This mysteriously went “missing” from police stores never to be seen again so the force had to send me a cheque for £1.5k.
In my business as a registered firearms dealer I am aware of a number of people that have their firearms removed from their home for a variety of reasons. These are where the police knock on the door NOT where they are used offensively I might add. My involvement comes when i collect them from the property office on behalf of the certifcate owner because they cannot have them back and facilitate dispossal. Its is extremely rare for a receipt to be issued at the time they are seized a fact that concerns me greatly. I had two officers last year call at my shop to collect a firearm we had in for repair a seizure because the owner had some sort of domestic issue. they expected to be able to take it from my custody without issuing a receipt/signing for it !
Edited by Ziplobb on Saturday 20th February 08:07
TVR1 said:
Greendubber said:
Not in my force, no 3rd parties look after our property stores.
If you think a propery officer would bother taking an ipad and risk their liberty you're mistaken. If someone was going to steal there would be far more expensive less traceable options in a police propery store than some kids iPad full of dick pics.
OP - speak to the officer in charge of the case and go from there.
Having been in charge of a rather large dealer group that sounds like siner. I had a call a few years ago about ‘you’re guys are working hard’ I didn’t know you parts work on Sunday. It was a random conversation. Just a supplier passing by.If you think a propery officer would bother taking an ipad and risk their liberty you're mistaken. If someone was going to steal there would be far more expensive less traceable options in a police propery store than some kids iPad full of dick pics.
OP - speak to the officer in charge of the case and go from there.
On questioning, we didn’t have parts staff in on Sundays.
They where loading up everything and making it disappear.
Cost that dealer group about £3 million.
Had the same in Australia.
That one nearly cost 300 staff their jobs. Dealership nearly went under.
I’ve no time for thief’s. I still like to think the best of people but life has shown me the contrary, I’ll still assume honesty though. Even when I know someone is a thieving f
k.Like it or not, that’s what’s probably happened to OP’s iPad.
Edited by TVR1 on Friday 19th February 23:49
Muncher said:
I’ve got several family and friends in the police, at different levels, different areas in different forces. They all told me the same thing, that anything nice or expensive or saleable in police stores, particularly lost items handed in will not last long and will just be taken.
Funnily a couple of years ago I handed in a bike worth about £1.5k which I was told would be returned to me unless anyone came forward claiming it. This mysteriously went “missing” from police stores never to be seen again so the force had to send me a cheque for £1.5k.
Obvious troll is obvious.Funnily a couple of years ago I handed in a bike worth about £1.5k which I was told would be returned to me unless anyone came forward claiming it. This mysteriously went “missing” from police stores never to be seen again so the force had to send me a cheque for £1.5k.
Red 4 said:
Obvious troll is obvious.
Excuse me?Here's the thread where I discuss it back in 2014! https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
My brother in law and sister in law are both officers, one in professional standards. Other brother in law's father is a very recently retired inspector. I'm friends with at least another 5 current officers off the top of my head covering 4 forces. All have said much the same thing.
Edited by Muncher on Saturday 20th February 15:43
Muncher said:
Red 4 said:
Obvious troll is obvious.
Excuse me?Here's the thread where I discuss it back in 2014! https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
My brother in law and sister in law are both officers, one in professional standards. Other brother in law's father is a very recently retired inspector. I'm friends with at least another 5 current officers off the top of my head covering 4 forces. All have said much the same thing.
Edited by Muncher on Saturday 20th February 15:43
What are they doing about it then?
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