Scam payment

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mcdjl

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5,446 posts

195 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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I may have recently recieved an email from a scammer asking for payment. I may have responded to them asking for an incoming transfer of £10 to confirm the account and given them the details of an empty savings account that can't make direct external payments. It may now have £10 in.
What's the right thing to do? Part of me thinks screw the scammer I'll keep the cash, but intend to tell the bank and or police. Anyone else?

Blackpuddin

16,517 posts

205 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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The right thing to have done would be not to have got yourself involved in it in the first place.

mcdjl

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5,446 posts

195 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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I recieve enough of these type of emails that sometimes when bored i bait them to occupy their time and reduce the odds of them having time to get money from someone. I also leave lines from accident claim calls open for the same reason.

bitchstewie

51,206 posts

210 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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Giving criminals your bank account details so they can transfer you money that might be the proceeds of other crimes.

What could possibly go wrong hehe

mcdjl

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Saturday 27th February 2021
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bhstewie said:
Giving criminals your bank account details so they can transfer you money that might be the proceeds of other crimes.

What could possibly go wrong hehe
So far i appear to have been paid £10 but made a world of hassle trying to report the fraud to companies/the police where it doesn't fit any category they care about!

oblio

5,408 posts

227 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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Take the tenner out; close the account; buy some beer with the tenner.

Result!! biggrin

NGee

2,393 posts

164 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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I thought the whole point of a scam was that the scammer got paid, not the other way round.

A scam that costs the scammer money doesn't seem a very good scam!

Sheepshanks

32,753 posts

119 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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mcdjl said:
So far i appear to have been paid £10 but made a world of hassle trying to report the fraud to companies/the police where it doesn't fit any category they care about!
If the scammer comes round to your house and burns it to the ground with you and your familiy in it they might care then, but that's about the starting point for the police's interest.

Apart from anything else, nothing illegal has happened yet - you asked for £10 and they sent it to you.

mcdjl

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Saturday 27th February 2021
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Sheepshanks said:
If the scammer comes round to your house and burns it to the ground with you and your familiy in it they might care then, but that's about the starting point for the police's interest.

Apart from anything else, nothing illegal has happened yet - you asked for £10 and they sent it to you.
Well arguably I'm now meant to be paying them £3209.....

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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NGee said:
I thought the whole point of a scam was that the scammer got paid, not the other way round.

A scam that costs the scammer money doesn't seem a very good scam!
it is as old as the hills. the only issue will be the people that transfer the money and receive it are usually innocent victims themselves..

Cliftonite

8,408 posts

138 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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mcdjl said:
Sheepshanks said:
If the scammer comes round to your house and burns it to the ground with you and your familiy in it they might care then, but that's about the starting point for the police's interest.

Apart from anything else, nothing illegal has happened yet - you asked for £10 and they sent it to you.
Well arguably I'm now meant to be paying them £3209.....
The OP has entered into a legally-binding contract with the scammer and if he does not send the promised money will be successfully sued in a civil court next year.

IANAL. (Can you tell?) smile




NikBartlett

602 posts

81 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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I prefer to pay scammers using the account details of other scammers laugh

mcdjl

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The Spruce Goose said:
it is as old as the hills. the only issue will be the people that transfer the money and receive it are usually innocent victims themselves..
Yeah that's my worry, that is a normal person who's back account is being used, that I got the money from.

bitchstewie

51,206 posts

210 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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mcdjl said:
Yeah that's my worry, that is a normal person who's back account is being used, that I got the money from.
And that's why you don't mess with criminals.

The money you've received could be proceeds of crime.

And if the victim reports money disappearing from their account have a guess where the breadcrumb trail leads to.

mcdjl

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bhstewie said:
And that's why you don't mess with criminals.

The money you've received could be proceeds of crime.

And if the victim reports money disappearing from their account have a guess where the breadcrumb trail leads to.
At the moment having sent the trail of breadcrumbs to action fraud, 3 banks and a friend who's company has looked into these emails for me in the past, right now I'm trying to show the authorities the way to the scammer!

bitchstewie

51,206 posts

210 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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mcdjl said:
At the moment having sent the trail of breadcrumbs to action fraud, 3 banks and a friend who's company has looked into these emails for me in the past, right now I'm trying to show the authorities the way to the scammer!
Scammer to mcdjl - please send me money
mcdjl to scammer - please send me £10 to show you're genuine here's my bank account
Scammer to someone else - please send £10 to this bank account

You get the idea.

Honestly I can't sugar coat it what you're doing is daft beyond words.

zzrman

635 posts

189 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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mcdjl said:
Well arguably I'm now meant to be paying them £3209.....
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What for?

eldar

21,742 posts

196 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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bhstewie said:
And that's why you don't mess with criminals.

The money you've received could be proceeds of crime.

And if the victim reports money disappearing from their account have a guess where the breadcrumb trail leads to.
That assumes the police have the time, resource or inclination to persue petty fraud.

mcdjl

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195 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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bhstewie said:
Scammer to mcdjl - please send me money
mcdjl to scammer - please send me £10 to show you're genuine here's my bank account
Scammer to someone else - please send £10 to this bank account

You get the idea.

Honestly I can't sugar coat it what you're doing is daft beyond words.
Sounds a lot like some of those fundraisers for people that spent all their money on drugs and can't get home. It's daft, I agree. I'm just surprised i actually got money.... For the moment!

mcdjl

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Saturday 27th February 2021
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zzrman said:
What for?
I don't know. I didn't ask. Probably just so that they had my money and I didn't.