Cloned Plate - Splash and dash - Solicitor letter arrived
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Total loss said:
Lorry drivers, more often than not have to present their fuel card at the pay counter (and leave it there)before filling up, could this not be an option for car drivers?
It would be a huge headache for the staff to manage and would be so much hassle they may as well just write off the occasional tank of fuel instead surely?QuickQuack said:
The other problem is the maximum allowed. Most allow up to £100 but filling up the tank in my car costs more than that as I have a tendency to fill to brim and run it down. There are a few with lower limits and those would be even worse. Why is there a stupidly low spending limit on fuel at the pump? If it's going to be pay at pump only, they need to get rid of the limit.
Couldn't you just make 2 transactions?The new Gulf filling station in Bath is card pre pay only too https://goo.gl/maps/3H7VVTdVCNviJ2ZP6
All my fill ups in Florida were pre pay too.
monthou said:
If they enter the reg into https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history they'll be able to see it's a motorcycle.
Or even https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.ukcovboy said:
Teem50 said:
covboy said:
Yet to come across a completely "pay at the pump" station
There's quite a few around, such as the one at our local Tesco.
the tribester said:
QuickQuack said:
The other problem is the maximum allowed. Most allow up to £100 but filling up the tank in my car costs more than that as I have a tendency to fill to brim and run it down. There are a few with lower limits and those would be even worse. Why is there a stupidly low spending limit on fuel at the pump? If it's going to be pay at pump only, they need to get rid of the limit.
Couldn't you just make 2 transactions?The new Gulf filling station in Bath is card pre pay only too https://goo.gl/maps/3H7VVTdVCNviJ2ZP6
All my fill ups in Florida were pre pay too.
Edited by gareth_r on Sunday 28th February 15:28
Nibbles_bits said:
This article explains the reasoning for police no investigating.
It also explains why most petrol stations won't take the suggested measure to stop this from happening.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/p...
I don't understand the argument that filling stations are putting up here. How can it damage their business as regards impulse purchases if you are made to pay before rather than after drawing fuel? You're still going into the shop. It also explains why most petrol stations won't take the suggested measure to stop this from happening.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/p...
covboy said:
rockin said:
Nibbles_bits said:
could be stopped by introducing pre-pay pumps, but the petrol stations won't do it because of cost and loss of profits.
Seriously, have you never seen a "pay at pump" petrol station? Stick credit card in pump, fill up (I think max £60) and drive away.martinbiz said:
CanAm said:
No need even for that. The OP has already said he’s going to phone them tomorrow morning. Hopefully they will have a photo, at which point he will point out his vehicle is a motor bike not a private car, and all will be resolved.
Agreed but I doubt if they will just take the OP’s word for that and will not want some form of corroboration rockin said:
Nibbles_bits said:
could be stopped by introducing pre-pay pumps, but the petrol stations won't do it because of cost and loss of profits.
Seriously, have you never seen a "pay at pump" petrol station? Stick credit card in pump, fill up (I think max £60) and drive away.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-44052530
speedyguy said:
rockin said:
Nibbles_bits said:
could be stopped by introducing pre-pay pumps, but the petrol stations won't do it because of cost and loss of profits.
Seriously, have you never seen a "pay at pump" petrol station? Stick credit card in pump, fill up (I think max £60) and drive away.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-44052530
speedyguy said:
rockin said:
Nibbles_bits said:
could be stopped by introducing pre-pay pumps, but the petrol stations won't do it because of cost and loss of profits.
Seriously, have you never seen a "pay at pump" petrol station? Stick credit card in pump, fill up (I think max £60) and drive away.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-44052530
Also, what about those who only have cash on them? There have been times when I left my wallet at home or work, and needed to my "emergency cash stash" in the car to fill up and get myself to my destination. There are plenty of people still using cash. Everything turning to prepay only would make life quite difficult for those who want to use cash.
Algarve said:
"Anything could happen over the next few weeks that might mean I can't afford to put fuel in, so as a precaution to make sure I can get me and my children from A to B, I sometimes top up silly amounts like £5 to keep it at full."
Definitely thick. Or lying.
She might be thick, as you put it. Should she be penalised for being a bit under the average intellect? Society is full of people who are not very clever, and they shouldn't be penalised for it. I've often noticed people putting in £5 or £10 worth of fuel in but it's not for me to judge their reasons for it. I've also noticed delays in release of preauthorisation funds to my credit cards. Again, doesn't bother me. However, I can see situations where someone who wants to top up by £5 or £10 could experience a delay with the release of what is a significant amount to them on a debit card, which could then have adverse consequences for them. We should consider the circumstances of others, and in particular of those who are in the most difficult circumstances, when implementing such large scale changes with potential unforeseen consequences.Definitely thick. Or lying.
Why not just go to court.
Years ago I worked for a company, we returned a mail franking machine, all signed for, but we kept getting invoices and demands In the end we just let it go to court. I went down to the magistrate court in London, the company solicitor approached me before the hearing, asked why a large Plc wouldn't pay, I gave her a copy of the letter, she asked me to go into court and let her speak for a minute.
She told the magistrate I was there, said it was a mistake and they would be paying all our cost including my wages and travel. We never heard again
Had the same with a car, kept replying to parking fines on a car I owned. All registered letters. In the end ignored them, went to court in Bham, sorted out with the inspector in the corridor before the hearing. Case withdrawn, cost paid and never heard again.
We don't have a TV at our UK house, ax we don't live there. Kept explaining this, then received a letter, stating my wife was commuting a criminal offence. Sent a registered letter return copy to my solicitor, explains that this aligation was untrue and libelous, and we would take action if repeated. Never heard again.
If your right attack can be the best defense.
Years ago I worked for a company, we returned a mail franking machine, all signed for, but we kept getting invoices and demands In the end we just let it go to court. I went down to the magistrate court in London, the company solicitor approached me before the hearing, asked why a large Plc wouldn't pay, I gave her a copy of the letter, she asked me to go into court and let her speak for a minute.
She told the magistrate I was there, said it was a mistake and they would be paying all our cost including my wages and travel. We never heard again
Had the same with a car, kept replying to parking fines on a car I owned. All registered letters. In the end ignored them, went to court in Bham, sorted out with the inspector in the corridor before the hearing. Case withdrawn, cost paid and never heard again.
We don't have a TV at our UK house, ax we don't live there. Kept explaining this, then received a letter, stating my wife was commuting a criminal offence. Sent a registered letter return copy to my solicitor, explains that this aligation was untrue and libelous, and we would take action if repeated. Never heard again.
If your right attack can be the best defense.
Pit Pony said:
The only thing I would do, is send them a letter, recorded delivery, with an invoice for my time.
Thank you for your letter reference xyz123, dated whenever.
This matter does not concern me, I can prove it was not me and I can prove it was not my vehicle.
Either the number has been misread, or my number plate has been cloned. As I have not had the police contact me about this theft, or any motoring offences, I would suggest the former is more likely.
If having reviewed the CCTV footage, you still wish to persue this, I suggest you contact the police, and make your allegations of theft to them.
As this has already taken up too much of my time, I am invoicing you for the sum of £42.53, as an admin fee. Please pay this within 14 days of receiving this letter, otherwise the admin fee will incur an increase of £42.53, for every 14 days you fail to pay.
If you fail to pay its possible that I will take court action.
Thank you
Pony
PS should you pay in full, I will of course donate the fee, to a homeless charity of your choice.
No ?
No!Thank you for your letter reference xyz123, dated whenever.
This matter does not concern me, I can prove it was not me and I can prove it was not my vehicle.
Either the number has been misread, or my number plate has been cloned. As I have not had the police contact me about this theft, or any motoring offences, I would suggest the former is more likely.
If having reviewed the CCTV footage, you still wish to persue this, I suggest you contact the police, and make your allegations of theft to them.
As this has already taken up too much of my time, I am invoicing you for the sum of £42.53, as an admin fee. Please pay this within 14 days of receiving this letter, otherwise the admin fee will incur an increase of £42.53, for every 14 days you fail to pay.
If you fail to pay its possible that I will take court action.
Thank you
Pony
PS should you pay in full, I will of course donate the fee, to a homeless charity of your choice.
No ?
speedyguy said:
Doesn't seem to work so well for those on their uppers or a bit thick ? Take your pick
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-44052530
What difference does having two children make?https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-44052530
speedyguy said:
rockin said:
Nibbles_bits said:
could be stopped by introducing pre-pay pumps, but the petrol stations won't do it because of cost and loss of profits.
Seriously, have you never seen a "pay at pump" petrol station? Stick credit card in pump, fill up (I think max £60) and drive away.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-44052530
I’ve paid cash upfront in Arizona and Texas in the past because my cards (including Citi’s) were not recognised (the American banking system in places really struggles to achieve third world levels of efficiency). In Italy and France, pumps are routinely geared up to take paper money.
Are we aware of any UK suppliers who would decline cash payment?
The Mad Monk said:
speedyguy said:
Doesn't seem to work so well for those on their uppers or a bit thick ? Take your pick
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-44052530
What difference does having two children make?https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-44052530
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