No Mask, No Entry, No Exceptions
Discussion
sospan said:
Masks are one part of simple common sense precautions to reduce ( not eradicate) transmission. I am happy to wear one where it is required. The trouble is there are too many self important “ rules don't apply to me” t***s about. If you have a genuine reason to not wear one then that is ok. Atthe moment the UK is in a fairly good place re infections/ spread so itwill not be much longer before we will be in the “ low risk so live with it ” stage.
We have had a cycle of lockdown/ release as infections reappear due to relaxation of guidelines and creation of conditions to cause spread. We don’t want a repeat and the only success this Gov has had in the vaccine program has been a game changer.
Covid is here to stay with variants as with other viruses so we are about to hit the live with it stage. Likely The Boris target date despite Variant D .
Yes there are stupid inconsistencies in rules and their interpretation but basically it is down to individual responsibility, something we seem to lack.
Me? I’ll wear a mask when needed or required. No big deal.
Why the big fuss? There are both deniers/ entitled and jobsworths on each opposite side. If someone becomes over zealous then my action is to just go and take my business elsewhere. I dod once question an over zealous person asking them of their knowledge of viruses/ epidemiology and pointed out their errors before leaving.
Anyway, we will soon have much less restrictions. Not quote pre Covid normality but close.
If masks are such a fantastic idea then why did it take so long for govt and WHO to mandate use?We have had a cycle of lockdown/ release as infections reappear due to relaxation of guidelines and creation of conditions to cause spread. We don’t want a repeat and the only success this Gov has had in the vaccine program has been a game changer.
Covid is here to stay with variants as with other viruses so we are about to hit the live with it stage. Likely The Boris target date despite Variant D .
Yes there are stupid inconsistencies in rules and their interpretation but basically it is down to individual responsibility, something we seem to lack.
Me? I’ll wear a mask when needed or required. No big deal.
Why the big fuss? There are both deniers/ entitled and jobsworths on each opposite side. If someone becomes over zealous then my action is to just go and take my business elsewhere. I dod once question an over zealous person asking them of their knowledge of viruses/ epidemiology and pointed out their errors before leaving.
Anyway, we will soon have much less restrictions. Not quote pre Covid normality but close.
GasEngineer said:
I applaud the shop or pub who enforce mask wearing rather than relying on other customers having to challenge or remind those who have forgotten their mask or have decided that they don't have to comply.
Other customers who do challenge people who are not wearing a mask are often met with abuse or belligerent behaviour - as if they are the ones in the wrong.
That’s exactly what they should be met withOther customers who do challenge people who are not wearing a mask are often met with abuse or belligerent behaviour - as if they are the ones in the wrong.
What business is it of theirs?
J__Wood said:
Plus with the South West having a much higher percentage of 'aged' population they need infection rates to be much lower.
Although along with the last three peaks helping solve the pension crisis, a new resurgence of Covid in the SW (from being rammed with visitors from higher infection rate areas last week onwards) could also solve the problem of no affordable homes for local folk .
you haven't really thought that through have you?Although along with the last three peaks helping solve the pension crisis, a new resurgence of Covid in the SW (from being rammed with visitors from higher infection rate areas last week onwards) could also solve the problem of no affordable homes for local folk .
sevensfun said:
GasEngineer said:
I applaud the shop or pub who enforce mask wearing rather than relying on other customers having to challenge or remind those who have forgotten their mask or have decided that they don't have to comply.
Other customers who do challenge people who are not wearing a mask are often met with abuse or belligerent behaviour - as if they are the ones in the wrong.
That’s exactly what they should be met withOther customers who do challenge people who are not wearing a mask are often met with abuse or belligerent behaviour - as if they are the ones in the wrong.
What business is it of theirs?
Red9zero said:
Masks in cars get me. Fair enough in a taxi, or if you are giving someone a lift, ok if it's not your car, but I've seen people in their own cars, on their own, wearing a mask. Would you not just run a Dettol wipe over the inside instead if you were that bothered ? I regularly see a chap go past our house in his convertible, with the roof down, wearing a mask. It's just odd.
I wore a mask to drive from one shop to another on the other side of town, because I couldn't be arsed taking it off, and it was a cold day. Pit Pony said:
Red9zero said:
Masks in cars get me. Fair enough in a taxi, or if you are giving someone a lift, ok if it's not your car, but I've seen people in their own cars, on their own, wearing a mask. Would you not just run a Dettol wipe over the inside instead if you were that bothered ? I regularly see a chap go past our house in his convertible, with the roof down, wearing a mask. It's just odd.
I wore a mask to drive from one shop to another on the other side of town, because I couldn't be arsed taking it off, and it was a cold day. V1nce Fox said:
4rephill said:
Trackdayer said:
I have now noticed the opposite happening, I've been told to take my mask off twice in the last week. Once in a local bakery, once in a motor trade premises.
I don't mind wearing one, but it seems a lot of places are pushing back against them now.
Politely advising you that you do not need to wear a mask if you do not wish to, is one thing.I don't mind wearing one, but it seems a lot of places are pushing back against them now.
Being told to take your mask off, in a bakery or motor trade premises (or elsewhere), is something completely different (and would be responded to with a: "F**k You!" and single finger salute as I walked out)
If you feel unsafe in public without a mask on, with the exception of an identification check for security, no one should have the right to tell you to remove your mask!
oyster said:
Does that include freedom of choice of establishments to refuse entry if you make your own free choice not to wear a mask?
Once all reasonable opportunities to protect oneself have been offered (vaccination, prophylaxis/therapeutic, wearing of own mask) then i don’t see why forcing others to wear a mask should be legally allowed. sevensfun said:
GasEngineer said:
I applaud the shop or pub who enforce mask wearing rather than relying on other customers having to challenge or remind those who have forgotten their mask or have decided that they don't have to comply.
Other customers who do challenge people who are not wearing a mask are often met with abuse or belligerent behaviour - as if they are the ones in the wrong.
That’s exactly what they should be met withOther customers who do challenge people who are not wearing a mask are often met with abuse or belligerent behaviour - as if they are the ones in the wrong.
What business is it of theirs?
And you’re in a situation with them where it’s mandated to wear masks for their safety.
Regardless whether it actually is safer is irrelevant, it’s just polite. And if you can’t or won’t do polite then you have a bigger problem than just masks.
V1nce Fox said:
oyster said:
Does that include freedom of choice of establishments to refuse entry if you make your own free choice not to wear a mask?
Once all reasonable opportunities to protect oneself have been offered (vaccination, prophylaxis/therapeutic, wearing of own mask) then i don’t see why forcing others to wear a mask should be legally allowed. sospan said:
Masks are one part of simple common sense precautions to reduce ( not eradicate) transmission. I am happy to wear one where it is required. The trouble is there are too many self important “ rules don't apply to me” t***s about. If you have a genuine reason to not wear one then that is ok. Atthe moment the UK is in a fairly good place re infections/ spread so itwill not be much longer before we will be in the “ low risk so live with it ” stage.
We have had a cycle of lockdown/ release as infections reappear due to relaxation of guidelines and creation of conditions to cause spread. We don’t want a repeat and the only success this Gov has had in the vaccine program has been a game changer.
Covid is here to stay with variants as with other viruses so we are about to hit the live with it stage. Likely The Boris target date despite Variant D .
Yes there are stupid inconsistencies in rules and their interpretation but basically it is down to individual responsibility, something we seem to lack.
Me? I’ll wear a mask when needed or required. No big deal.
Why the big fuss? There are both deniers/ entitled and jobsworths on each opposite side. If someone becomes over zealous then my action is to just go and take my business elsewhere. I dod once question an over zealous person asking them of their knowledge of viruses/ epidemiology and pointed out their errors before leaving.
Anyway, we will soon have much less restrictions. Not quote pre Covid normality but close.
How does any of that relate to the op’s (my) question?We have had a cycle of lockdown/ release as infections reappear due to relaxation of guidelines and creation of conditions to cause spread. We don’t want a repeat and the only success this Gov has had in the vaccine program has been a game changer.
Covid is here to stay with variants as with other viruses so we are about to hit the live with it stage. Likely The Boris target date despite Variant D .
Yes there are stupid inconsistencies in rules and their interpretation but basically it is down to individual responsibility, something we seem to lack.
Me? I’ll wear a mask when needed or required. No big deal.
Why the big fuss? There are both deniers/ entitled and jobsworths on each opposite side. If someone becomes over zealous then my action is to just go and take my business elsewhere. I dod once question an over zealous person asking them of their knowledge of viruses/ epidemiology and pointed out their errors before leaving.
Anyway, we will soon have much less restrictions. Not quote pre Covid normality but close.
I really detest wearing masks. I just don’t like wearing them but don’t have any reason for exemption. My mask goes on at the last minute it needs to and straight back off as soon as possible. Meanwhile, my wife leaves hers on a lot as “it’s easier…”
Whether other people choose to wear them wear they don’t need to doesn’t bother me. Like others have said, in some places it seems strange but each to their own
I have two jobs and both require a mask at particular times - a mixture of company policy, customer policies and Covid regs - the Gov reducing mask wearing requirements can’t come soon enough so hopefully the companies follow suit. In the circumstances when I need to ask customers to put them on I don’t enjoy it either…
Whether other people choose to wear them wear they don’t need to doesn’t bother me. Like others have said, in some places it seems strange but each to their own
I have two jobs and both require a mask at particular times - a mixture of company policy, customer policies and Covid regs - the Gov reducing mask wearing requirements can’t come soon enough so hopefully the companies follow suit. In the circumstances when I need to ask customers to put them on I don’t enjoy it either…
Countdown said:
Pit Pony said:
Red9zero said:
Masks in cars get me. Fair enough in a taxi, or if you are giving someone a lift, ok if it's not your car, but I've seen people in their own cars, on their own, wearing a mask. Would you not just run a Dettol wipe over the inside instead if you were that bothered ? I regularly see a chap go past our house in his convertible, with the roof down, wearing a mask. It's just odd.
I wore a mask to drive from one shop to another on the other side of town, because I couldn't be arsed taking it off, and it was a cold day. V1nce Fox said:
oyster said:
Does that include freedom of choice of establishments to refuse entry if you make your own free choice not to wear a mask?
Once all reasonable opportunities to protect oneself have been offered (vaccination, prophylaxis/therapeutic, wearing of own mask) then i don’t see why forcing others to wear a mask should be legally allowed. Also when has anyone forced anyone to enter a private business as a customer? I've been in plenty of private businesses, wearing a mask as requested, at no point did anyone stick a gun to my head and frogmarch me in.
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