Removing/cutting bike from private garden fence...
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Google is being no help and throwing up a bunch of click-bait Daily Mail articles.
I am the joint owner of a wrought iron fence surrounding our private garden in front of our block of flats.
Fence now has the significant risk of members of the public securing their bicycles to our fence which can potentially cause damage as well as being unsightly and many of us owners simply not wanting them there. I think we are well within our rights to have that opinion!
I have seen many signs fixed to fences in similar situations stating bicycles/locks will be removed etc etc.
What is stopping me cutting locks on our fence assuming we attach similar signs? Presumably I'll have to pay for the damaged locks? Or are those signs simply all bark and no bite?
I am the joint owner of a wrought iron fence surrounding our private garden in front of our block of flats.
Fence now has the significant risk of members of the public securing their bicycles to our fence which can potentially cause damage as well as being unsightly and many of us owners simply not wanting them there. I think we are well within our rights to have that opinion!
I have seen many signs fixed to fences in similar situations stating bicycles/locks will be removed etc etc.
What is stopping me cutting locks on our fence assuming we attach similar signs? Presumably I'll have to pay for the damaged locks? Or are those signs simply all bark and no bite?
If OP already has prominent signs on said fence requesting that randoms don't padlock pedal cycles or other assorted machinery to it, I would suggest either:
A. Some sort of honesty box, inviting cash contributions from cycle-parkers for the painting and general upkeep of the fence (you could even add a digital option in the form of a gofundme page or whatever, if you're feeling creative).
or
B. Smear something which will be a nuisance to remove (but not cause any damage) to the seats/padlocks/handlebars of the bicycles, to encourage parkers to read the signs more carefully.
Simply cutting off the padlocks will almost certainly be illegal (ie criminal damage), and in my view, quite disproportionate, since the bicycles are then likely to be thefted.
A. Some sort of honesty box, inviting cash contributions from cycle-parkers for the painting and general upkeep of the fence (you could even add a digital option in the form of a gofundme page or whatever, if you're feeling creative).
or
B. Smear something which will be a nuisance to remove (but not cause any damage) to the seats/padlocks/handlebars of the bicycles, to encourage parkers to read the signs more carefully.
Simply cutting off the padlocks will almost certainly be illegal (ie criminal damage), and in my view, quite disproportionate, since the bicycles are then likely to be thefted.
trickywoo said:
If people keep coming back to flat tyres they will soon get the message.
I don’t think letting air out of the valve is criminal.
You may think that - but I believe it is.I don’t think letting air out of the valve is criminal.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/secti...
Edited by OverSteery on Thursday 24th June 20:02
markjmd said:
B. Smear something which will be a nuisance to remove (but not cause any damage) to the seats/padlocks/handlebars of the bicycles, to encourage parkers to read the signs more carefully.
Simply cutting off the padlocks will almost certainly be illegal (ie criminal damage), and in my view, quite disproportionate, since the bicycles are then likely to be thefted.
Smearing something on the bikes/locks etc. which will be a nuisance to remove is likely to amount to criminal damage. Simply cutting off the padlocks will almost certainly be illegal (ie criminal damage), and in my view, quite disproportionate, since the bicycles are then likely to be thefted.
Cat
Apply liberally.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/blackfriar-anti-climb-p...
Put a sign up as a warning too.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/blackfriar-anti-climb-p...
Put a sign up as a warning too.
ApexCult said:
Fence now has the significant risk of members of the public securing their bicycles to our fence which can potentially cause damage as well as being unsightly and many of us owners simply not wanting them there.
Has it happened yet?Why is there a risk now? Something opened up locally that attracts cyclists now?
I've been locking my bikes to bike racks, lamp posts etc for years and years. I have never noticed any damage to anything I have locked my bike too. If anything, it's removed paint from my bikes over the years through a bit of rubbing.
InitialDave said:
ApexCult said:
No, but fence used to be 1.5 metres about ground level and relatively private. Since today it is now at ground level and in what will be one of the busiest spots in town. Joy.
Sounds like a hell of a subsidence problem you've got there.ApexCult said:
Google is being no help and throwing up a bunch of click-bait Daily Mail articles.
I am the joint owner of a wrought iron fence surrounding our private garden in front of our block of flats.
Fence now has the significant risk of members of the public securing their bicycles to our fence which can potentially cause damage as well as being unsightly and many of us owners simply not wanting them there. I think we are well within our rights to have that opinion!
I have seen many signs fixed to fences in similar situations stating bicycles/locks will be removed etc etc.
What is stopping me cutting locks on our fence assuming we attach similar signs? Presumably I'll have to pay for the damaged locks? Or are those signs simply all bark and no bite?
Is your fence a fairly conventional design, i.e. long horizontal strips with vertical bars placed at regular intervals along it? I am the joint owner of a wrought iron fence surrounding our private garden in front of our block of flats.
Fence now has the significant risk of members of the public securing their bicycles to our fence which can potentially cause damage as well as being unsightly and many of us owners simply not wanting them there. I think we are well within our rights to have that opinion!
I have seen many signs fixed to fences in similar situations stating bicycles/locks will be removed etc etc.
What is stopping me cutting locks on our fence assuming we attach similar signs? Presumably I'll have to pay for the damaged locks? Or are those signs simply all bark and no bite?
Could you modify the fence so that the bars can be lifted upwards and essentially out of the holes in the horizontal strips? That way you could lift the bar up, remove the locked bike from the fence and then slide the bar down again!
I suspect they'd cotton on fairly quickly and chain their bikes to the horizontal part but it might be fun for a while.
Failing that I'd just put up some warning signs and then cut the locks. Who's to know exactly who it was that cut it...?
SiH said:
Is your fence a fairly conventional design, i.e. long horizontal strips with vertical bars placed at regular intervals along it?
Could you modify the fence so that the bars can be lifted upwards and essentially out of the holes in the horizontal strips? That way you could lift the bar up, remove the locked bike from the fence and then slide the bar down again!
I suspect they'd cotton on fairly quickly and chain their bikes to the horizontal part but it might be fun for a while.
Failing that I'd just put up some warning signs and then cut the locks. Who's to know exactly who it was that cut it...?
Now we're thinking!! Like that idea!Could you modify the fence so that the bars can be lifted upwards and essentially out of the holes in the horizontal strips? That way you could lift the bar up, remove the locked bike from the fence and then slide the bar down again!
I suspect they'd cotton on fairly quickly and chain their bikes to the horizontal part but it might be fun for a while.
Failing that I'd just put up some warning signs and then cut the locks. Who's to know exactly who it was that cut it...?
Although I think given some posts above cutting the locks would be viewed rather dimly by the police especially with the amount of CCTV in the area, so I guess the signs I've mentioned are really just a hope for the best rather than anything actionable.
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