Removing/cutting bike from private garden fence...
Discussion
AndyAudi said:
I was going to suggest hanging a cheap bolt cutters on the fence with a chain, then realised it would probably disappear too 
Or a Poundland hacksaw hanging from handlebars - owner comes back to find thief was just about to steal bike...Alternatively whip seat post off and fill seat tube with wet cement, you may event be able to fill down tube and top tube.
Pop the seat post carefully back at same height.
Rider cycles back home and struggles up first hill due to extra 1 or 2 kg.
Puts lack off power down to heart problems or long covid and gives up cycling.
Edited by J__Wood on Friday 25th June 16:19
NewBod said:
I must admit that I don't get the calls for damage on this thread. It seems that some on this forum couldn't care less about damaging someone's property if its a bicycle.
What would people say if someone took offence to your parking and keyed your car, for instance. Would everyone be OK with that and say you deserved it?
By all means, get some signs up etc. and monitor the situation, if it happens. But don't start damaging things, just because they are bikes. People will know who is responsible.
Some drivers do not seem to understand the fact that for every bicycle on the road, that's is one less vehicle adding to traffic jams and congestion that they would probably get stuck in.
Absolutely yes What would people say if someone took offence to your parking and keyed your car, for instance. Would everyone be OK with that and say you deserved it?
By all means, get some signs up etc. and monitor the situation, if it happens. But don't start damaging things, just because they are bikes. People will know who is responsible.
Some drivers do not seem to understand the fact that for every bicycle on the road, that's is one less vehicle adding to traffic jams and congestion that they would probably get stuck in.
Edited by NewBod on Friday 25th June 08:25
if you are causing annoyance or nuisance to someone and using their property to do it and they have told you to stop and you dont then you deserve it. oh nose poor cyclists.
Edited by 321boost on Friday 25th June 17:39
Chozza said:
"The Scottish courts have held that wheel clamping constitutes theft as it deprives the owner the use of their vehicle even though the deprivation is not permanent - Carmichael v Black 1992 SLT 897.
There is no reason that I can see for why the judgement wouldn't apply to somebody temporarily depriving someone of use of their bike by locking it to some railings."
Under the same argument the cyclist is depriving the op of the Fence.. Even though the cyclist intends to remove the bike.
( I never understood why the wheel clampers didnt counter argue that the parking deprived the land owner of the use of the parking space so was theft)
You cannot steal land under Scots law. There is no reason that I can see for why the judgement wouldn't apply to somebody temporarily depriving someone of use of their bike by locking it to some railings."
Under the same argument the cyclist is depriving the op of the Fence.. Even though the cyclist intends to remove the bike.
( I never understood why the wheel clampers didnt counter argue that the parking deprived the land owner of the use of the parking space so was theft)
threadlock said:
Shoot every passing cyclist in the arse with an air rifle, just in case they're thinking of locking their bike to your railings. Over time they'll subconsciouly associate your property with sharp pains and will naturally stay away, but won't really understand why.
This deserves more recognition, very good.
Chozza said:
"The Scottish courts have held that wheel clamping constitutes theft as it deprives the owner the use of their vehicle even though the deprivation is not permanent - Carmichael v Black 1992 SLT 897.
There is no reason that I can see for why the judgement wouldn't apply to somebody temporarily depriving someone of use of their bike by locking it to some railings."
Under the same argument the cyclist is depriving the op of the Fence.. Even though the cyclist intends to remove the bike.
( I never understood why the wheel clampers didnt counter argue that the parking deprived the land owner of the use of the parking space so was theft)
How the f**k can you deprive someone of a fence, by locking a bicycle to it? There is no reason that I can see for why the judgement wouldn't apply to somebody temporarily depriving someone of use of their bike by locking it to some railings."
Under the same argument the cyclist is depriving the op of the Fence.. Even though the cyclist intends to remove the bike.
( I never understood why the wheel clampers didnt counter argue that the parking deprived the land owner of the use of the parking space so was theft)
The fence is still in place, doing the exact thing it was doing before there was a bicycle attached to it!
If it were a gate, that you could no longer open due to the bicycle being attached to it, then that would be a different matter - You would be deprived of the use of the gate, but a fence? - Get real!
Pothole said:
kestral said:
flashbang said:
Cutting cycle locks off bikes chained to railings happens every day on railway stations all over the UK.
It really doesn't.flashbang said:
Pothole said:
kestral said:
flashbang said:
Cutting cycle locks off bikes chained to railings happens every day on railway stations all over the UK.
It really doesn't.If it were me…
I’d put up a sign saying that bikes attached to the railings may be removed without notice, and if it continued I’d buy a few cheap locks and lock up any bike chained there.
I’d take my own lock back the next day, but think that this’d put people off.
I’m sure someone will tell me that it’s illegal, but I think the chance of being caught, then someone involving the police, then the police passing it to the CPS for prosecution is negligible.
I’d put up a sign saying that bikes attached to the railings may be removed without notice, and if it continued I’d buy a few cheap locks and lock up any bike chained there.
I’d take my own lock back the next day, but think that this’d put people off.
I’m sure someone will tell me that it’s illegal, but I think the chance of being caught, then someone involving the police, then the police passing it to the CPS for prosecution is negligible.
Find somewhere with a clear line of sight to your garden fence but about 1/2 a mile away, get yourself a Barrett 50 sniper rifle and some camouflage gear. Then as they start to chain their bike to your fence take them out. If you leave the headless corpse there then it will serve as a deterent to other would be bike chainers.
NewBod said:
I must admit that I don't get the calls for damage on this thread. It seems that some on this forum couldn't care less about damaging someone's property if its a bicycle.
What would people say if someone took offence to your parking and keyed your car, for instance. Would everyone be OK with that and say you deserved it?
By all means, get some signs up etc. and monitor the situation, if it happens. But don't start damaging things, just because they are bikes. People will know who is responsible.
Some drivers do not seem to understand the fact that for every bicycle on the road, that's is one less vehicle adding to traffic jams and congestion that they would probably get stuck in.
Well said :-)What would people say if someone took offence to your parking and keyed your car, for instance. Would everyone be OK with that and say you deserved it?
By all means, get some signs up etc. and monitor the situation, if it happens. But don't start damaging things, just because they are bikes. People will know who is responsible.
Some drivers do not seem to understand the fact that for every bicycle on the road, that's is one less vehicle adding to traffic jams and congestion that they would probably get stuck in.
Edited by NewBod on Friday 25th June 08:25
4rephill said:
Chozza said:
"The Scottish courts have held that wheel clamping constitutes theft as it deprives the owner the use of their vehicle even though the deprivation is not permanent - Carmichael v Black 1992 SLT 897.
There is no reason that I can see for why the judgement wouldn't apply to somebody temporarily depriving someone of use of their bike by locking it to some railings."
Under the same argument the cyclist is depriving the op of the Fence.. Even though the cyclist intends to remove the bike.
( I never understood why the wheel clampers didnt counter argue that the parking deprived the land owner of the use of the parking space so was theft)
How the f**k can you deprive someone of a fence, by locking a bicycle to it? There is no reason that I can see for why the judgement wouldn't apply to somebody temporarily depriving someone of use of their bike by locking it to some railings."
Under the same argument the cyclist is depriving the op of the Fence.. Even though the cyclist intends to remove the bike.
( I never understood why the wheel clampers didnt counter argue that the parking deprived the land owner of the use of the parking space so was theft)
The fence is still in place, doing the exact thing it was doing before there was a bicycle attached to it!
If it were a gate, that you could no longer open due to the bicycle being attached to it, then that would be a different matter - You would be deprived of the use of the gate, but a fence? - Get real!
Enut said:
Find somewhere with a clear line of sight to your garden fence but about 1/2 a mile away, get yourself a Barrett 50 sniper rifle and some camouflage gear. Then as they start to chain their bike to your fence take them out. If you leave the headless corpse there then it will serve as a deterent to other would be bike chainers.
For the avoidance of doubt you should point out that this is sarcasm. 
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