Caught by community speeding group doing 40 in a 30...

[Bobtherallyfan]

Paul Dishman said:

IroningMan said:

Out of curiosity - and not a comment on the OP - does anyone know if vehicles reported by SpeedWatch groups are checked for MOT, insurance etc.? And if they're not, then shouldn't they be?

I had a short discussion on this very point with a local councillor who is trying to set up a Speedwatch group. It was mentioned in the local paper that they'd caught so many speeding motorists who turned out to have no MOT, VED, or insurance.

Unfortunately I've deleted the email, but the answer was that the group didn't check driver's details and didn't have access to police computer systems, but were given statistics showing the numbers offending as part of feedback. Feedback was given after a matter of months, but individuals were not identified.Anyone checking reg.numbers against the Gov.uk site and/or Ask.Mid on their smartphones would be acting entirely on their own.

We only collect data on site….Reg No, Speed, Make, Model and colour. How the data is used varies by Force. It can include people like the OP being targeted by the road policing unit. So maybe they aren’t as clever as they like to think they are.

[carreauchompeur]

Mr Miata said:

carreauchompeur said:

You’ll get a ticking off letter from the Soeedwatch. Although expect your vehicle to be ‘of interest’ potentially to local traffic cops.

So stop doing 40 through villages. HTH

You have traffic cops? I haven’t seen one of those in years.

Yep, not many of us. But the speed watch data is regularly disseminated. Areas with high speeds noted can be targeted for enforcement, and even cars which come to light repeatedly might get some love.

[Ian Geary]

NorthernSky said:

Gweeds said:

So you’re just trolling.

Grow up.

What a strange comment.

Take note that your response didn't answer the OP's original question - so what are you even doing here? Fortunately, there's still good advice to be asked for in this section of the PH forums, and to those, I'm thankful.

But it addressed the op's subsequent points pretty accurately.

And perhaps you can take note yourself: what points did you answer of the OP's question? (None) So what are you doing here?

Etc etc ad infinitum

There has already been plenty of good advice for the OP to reflect on, including the quote at the top of this reply.

[Paul Dishman]

martinbiz said:

Mr Miata said:

You have traffic cops? I haven’t seen one of those in years.

Would you know how to recognise one? They don’t generally have TRAFFIC COP emblazoned down the side

They wear white hats

[Monkeylegend]

Ian Geary said:

NorthernSky said:

Gweeds said:

So you’re just trolling.

Grow up.

What a strange comment.

Take note that your response didn't answer the OP's original question - so what are you even doing here? Fortunately, there's still good advice to be asked for in this section of the PH forums, and to those, I'm thankful.

But it addressed the op's subsequent points pretty accurately.

And perhaps you can take note yourself: what points did you answer of the OP's question? (None) So what are you doing here?

Etc etc ad infinitum

There has already been plenty of good advice for the OP to reflect on, including the quote at the top of this reply.

NorthernSky is the OP

[Johnnytheboy]

Monkeylegend said:

NorthernSky is the OP

[Monkeylegend]

Johnnytheboy said:

Monkeylegend said:

NorthernSky is the OP

My first chuckle of the day, thank you

[Johnnytheboy]

I may have peaked too early!

[martinbiz]

Paul Dishman said:

martinbiz said:

Mr Miata said:

You have traffic cops? I haven’t seen one of those in years.

Would you know how to recognise one? They don’t generally have TRAFFIC COP emblazoned down the side

They wear white hats

Oh FFS please tell me that was joke and not a serious reply

[vonhosen]

martinbiz said:

Paul Dishman said:

martinbiz said:

Mr Miata said:

You have traffic cops? I haven’t seen one of those in years.

Would you know how to recognise one? They don’t generally have TRAFFIC COP emblazoned down the side

They wear white hats

Oh FFS please tell me that was joke and not a serious reply

They do.

[martinbiz]

vonhosen said:

martinbiz said:

Paul Dishman said:

martinbiz said:

Mr Miata said:

You have traffic cops? I haven’t seen one of those in years.

Would you know how to recognise one? They don’t generally have TRAFFIC COP emblazoned down the side

They wear white hats

Oh FFS please tell me that was joke and not a serious reply

They do.

Yes I know that, in my post I was was referring to vehicles in response to people saying they never see one, i would have thought that was obvious, but hey it's early

[vonhosen]

martinbiz said:

vonhosen said:

martinbiz said:

Paul Dishman said:

martinbiz said:

Mr Miata said:

You have traffic cops? I haven’t seen one of those in years.

Would you know how to recognise one? They don’t generally have TRAFFIC COP emblazoned down the side

They wear white hats

Oh FFS please tell me that was joke and not a serious reply

They do.

Yes I know that, in my post I was was referring to vehicles in response to people saying they never see one, i would have thought that was obvious, but hey it's early

Well when you quote the most recent reply it looks like you are replying to that.
If you aren't it's probably better to edit that out so it's clearer what you are replying to rather than us having to try & guess which reply in the nest you are addressing.

[IroningMan]

Bobtherallyfan said:

Paul Dishman said:

IroningMan said:

Out of curiosity - and not a comment on the OP - does anyone know if vehicles reported by SpeedWatch groups are checked for MOT, insurance etc.? And if they're not, then shouldn't they be?

I had a short discussion on this very point with a local councillor who is trying to set up a Speedwatch group. It was mentioned in the local paper that they'd caught so many speeding motorists who turned out to have no MOT, VED, or insurance.

Unfortunately I've deleted the email, but the answer was that the group didn't check driver's details and didn't have access to police computer systems, but were given statistics showing the numbers offending as part of feedback. Feedback was given after a matter of months, but individuals were not identified.Anyone checking reg.numbers against the Gov.uk site and/or Ask.Mid on their smartphones would be acting entirely on their own.

We only collect data on site….Reg No, Speed, Make, Model and colour. How the data is used varies by Force. It can include people like the OP being targeted by the road policing unit. So maybe they aren’t as clever as they like to think they are.

Thanks both. One would hope that the opportunity is always taken by the Force to check - and then to follow-up.

[bartelbe]

NorthernSky said:

I could attack them with my keyboard, but to be honest, I'd like YOU guys to give me suggestions how to deal with them again, if I come across them in future.

That youtube clip IS pure gold... To other petrolheads, you just know they are reacting like these guys. Of course, not everyone lives a joyful life travelling at speed in fast vehicles and they'll never understand. But that is their problem, if they want to live miserably.

To the guy asking about speed - I don't really care for imposed limits, I will adjust my driving or riding speed appropriately to the terrain, road surface, and weather conditions etc. I trust myself more to do this than the ability of a sign to instruct me how to get around.

It wouldn't bother me if I had people going past at speed or loudly. I use my senses to avoid people speeding in urban areas or anywhere for that matter. There's a young guy who goes past my house a couple of times a day on a straight piped chopper of some kind, am probably one of the few around here who don't mind the ridiculous noise, because it comes and goes pretty fast!

Ultimately - and a lot of people who have replied here could benefit from this - just chill out, let the small things go! Life is much more enjoyable this way.

Which is fine if you are realistic about your own driving ability and ability to judge conditions. I agree that speed limits are often too low or not appropriate. The problem is when people are asked about their ability to control a car, virtually everybody claims to be above average, which is clearly non-sense.

The sad truth, is many who drive fast don't have the car control to do so safely. They are dangerous, not because they are deliberately trying to hurt people but because they can't be honest with themselves about their ability to control a car.

In my own case I can drive a car to the extent that I don't hit other objects, moving or stationary but I have no particular feel for driving. I have no business taking a car to its limit on a race track, let alone a public road. I lack the skill to do that and I am honest enough to admit that to myself. Alas many people aren't.

As for people in yellow jackets checking speed, in my experience they soon get bored and give it up. So I wouldn't worry about it.

[Pit Pony]

martinbiz said:

NorthernSky said:

Here we go with the internet judge, judy, and executioners!

Holding out for someone with a similar experience of this to post. Cheers.

You can expect a letter possibly pointing out where you are going wrong, but at the moment nothing more than that.

Yes you will get the Judge and jury on here somtimes, but why make it easier for them by your advertising your silly actions and coming across as a bit of a P***k

Having lived in one of those villages* where traffic thunders through all day and all night and the planned bypass, has never been buult since it was proposed in the 1970s, n pains me to say but the OP is really a dick.
Speed limit signs are not an indication to start slowing down. They are big enough that you can see them and adjust your speed before you reach them.
Is it that bad that people would like the traffic to be lighter and slower?

• Long Preston on the A65 between Skipton and Kendal.

One morning a fully laden quarry truck went through the side of a derelict barn, right in the middle of village.
Every bank holiday, the local teenagers would have fun by repeatedly pressing the pedestrian crossing lights and eventually creating a 5 mile tailback each way.

[Pit Pony]

NorthernSky said:

I live in a cul-de-sac, limit is 20... But as long as someone is going past faster and NOT running over the cats that live here, I really don't mind. It just doesn't upset me at all.

I'm convinced that all cul de sacs should be turned into 5 mph play streets. Remove the pavements, (which stopps people parking on them) designate areas for parking, and expect infants and toddlers and teenagers and cats to be lying around or playing in the street.

[Pit Pony]

meatballs said:

People who speed through 30s are the worst form of life in the world, because they cause speed bumps to be installed which are th second worst form of life.

They get installed anyway just after a 20 mph limit is blanket enforced.

[Tony33]

bartelbe said:

Which is fine if you are realistic about your own driving ability and ability to judge conditions. I agree that speed limits are often too low or not appropriate. The problem is when people are asked about their ability to control a car, virtually everybody claims to be above average, which is clearly non-sense.

The sad truth, is many who drive fast don't have the car control to do so safely. They are dangerous, not because they are deliberately trying to hurt people but because they can't be honest with themselves about their ability to control a car.

apart from those doing absolutely crazy speeds it isn’t really about car control but hazard perception. It used to be the onus was on the driver to drive appropriately within the speed limits, now the speed limit seems set for the worst case of potential hazards. Hence the perception people have now that safe driving equals the speed limit.
I guess the motorists as a group have to shoulder the blame for failing to behave responsibly given the old rules in the eyes of the authorities although I would question how scientific the approach. Some no doubt will over estimate their ability to stop in an emergency but I genuinely feel there are plenty of normal drivers who have the capability to recognise how to manage speed appropriately and have been dragged down to the lowest denominator of the non thinking driver. It makes driving feel very robotic. I often use the limiter and it makes driving feel unnatural in the flow of traffic where people are using common sense and certainly not racing around.

[flying-banana]

otolith said:

Tony33 said:

ound here people buy houses in an NSL and then campaign to get the limits reduced because people keep driving fast past their house…

What proportion of people have successfully lobbied for the current speed limit outside their house?

The 2-3 mile stretch of road between two villages near where I used to live had a NSL speed limit in the 80s & 90s, then it suddenly became a 30 for no obvious reason, it was still a regular 2-lane country road, there were no fatal accidents, no new housing developments, no discernible change in traffic....curious, eh?

As an aside...people in one of these villages complained about speeding drivers so much that plod decided to visit...over 80% of the people caught speeding actually lived in the village

[Mr Miata]

NorthernSky said:

I could attack them with my keyboard, but to be honest, I'd like YOU guys to give me suggestions how to deal with them again, if I come across them in future.

That youtube clip IS pure gold... To other petrolheads, you just know they are reacting like these guys. Of course, not everyone lives a joyful life travelling at speed in fast vehicles and they'll never understand. But that is their problem, if they want to live miserably.

To the guy asking about speed - I don't really care for imposed limits, I will adjust my driving or riding speed appropriately to the terrain, road surface, and weather conditions etc. I trust myself more to do this than the ability of a sign to instruct me how to get around.

It wouldn't bother me if I had people going past at speed or loudly. I use my senses to avoid people speeding in urban areas or anywhere for that matter. There's a young guy who goes past my house a couple of times a day on a straight piped chopper of some kind, am probably one of the few around here who don't mind the ridiculous noise, because it comes and goes pretty fast!

Ultimately - and a lot of people who have replied here could benefit from this - just chill out, let the small things go! Life is much more enjoyable this way.

If you are not a troll. As I struggle to believe someone is really that stupid.

Why don’t you just keep your speeding on the track?

That’ll be a win - win. You can speed all you want on track days and you are less likely to kill someone else. And you might learn that you and your car isn’t as fast as what you thought.

Edited by Mr Miata on Monday 26th July 01:44