How much hassle is MCOL in reality?

How much hassle is MCOL in reality?

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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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Issues have been rectified at a cost of just under £2k (actually cheaper than the company themselves kindly offered to charge us to resolve the problems.....)

Letter before action sent.

Will update as and when I have more.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Aaaaaaaand……. Court claim submitted.

Was a doddle to do, will be interesting to see how it plays out, maybe I’m totally in the wrong legally argue

Durzel

12,262 posts

168 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Thanks for updating the thread smile

gobuddygo

1,384 posts

185 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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IJWS15 said:
This is different to a claim against an individual
And a lot harder to get your money back from an individual, I won in court against a one man band builder, was owed £800, eventually had to upgrade at my cost to the Sheriffs Office also had to pay someone to find the builders new address, bailiffs went round many times but he just refused to answer the door, eventually bailiffs gave up.

Durzel

12,262 posts

168 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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gobuddygo said:
IJWS15 said:
This is different to a claim against an individual
And a lot harder to get your money back from an individual, I won in court against a one man band builder, was owed £800, eventually had to upgrade at my cost to the Sheriffs Office also had to pay someone to find the builders new address, bailiffs went round many times but he just refused to answer the door, eventually bailiffs gave up.
He'd still have an undischarged CCJ against his name I presume, which would follow him around, so that's some small consolation I guess.

N7GTX

7,864 posts

143 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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Durzel said:
gobuddygo said:
IJWS15 said:
This is different to a claim against an individual
And a lot harder to get your money back from an individual, I won in court against a one man band builder, was owed £800, eventually had to upgrade at my cost to the Sheriffs Office also had to pay someone to find the builders new address, bailiffs went round many times but he just refused to answer the door, eventually bailiffs gave up.
He'd still have an undischarged CCJ against his name I presume, which would follow him around, so that's some small consolation I guess.
There are different companies doing sheriff work. If yours is hopeless (giving up) then maybe complain or pass it to another company.

https://www.thesheriffsoffice.com/services/high-co...

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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No problem with keeping it updated, I hate it when threads like this just fizzle out.

Currently waiting for the mediation stage. Predictably, the company have rejected my claim with the same reasoning they told me originally and with which I completely disagree.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Mediation is happening next week, all done over the phone. A two hour time slot has been booked and I just talk direct to the mediator, no contact with the other party, it's not a conference call.

Will be interesting to see how it goes. Given their previous way of handling it I'll be surprised if they actually turn up and even more surprised if they make anything more than the most derisory offer.

If mediation fails, nothing said during mediation can be raised in court which I guess is a good system, then what someone was or wasn't prepared to do in mediation doesn't become a factor in court.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/small-claims-mediation...

Apparently current lead time for a small claims court date is six to nine months........... No skin off my nose, I can wait and interest is accruing on the claim anyway.

We have just had to correct some more relatively minor issues/fallout from the original screwup. <sigh>

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 26th November 17:28

Durzel

12,262 posts

168 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Thanks for the update.

Louis Balfour

26,271 posts

222 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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I think we may issue a flurry of MCOLs in the coming weeks. A number of our residential tenants were happy to allow us to support them during the pandemic, only then to do a runner owing thousands when lockdowns ended.

Most were claiming Universal Credit to cover rent, but not passing it on.

I am not sure how much we will recover, but hopefully we can cause some inconvenience to those who choose not to pay up.


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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Mediation was a waste of time on one front, but very useful on another.

They made a couple of completely derisory offers. The mediation went nowhere.

However, I do now have a much better idea of what their defence is going to be, and it’s all easily disproved by the evidence that I have.

I honestly can’t work out if they’re playing a stupid game and betting I won’t take it all the way, or if they genuinely think they’re in the right. It doesn’t really matter, it’s nothing personal, I just can’t understand how they are playing this. Maybe I’m legally completely wrong and it will come to nothing.

On to court……..

Durzel

12,262 posts

168 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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For some its brinkmanship, for others its pure stubbornness/unwillingness to accept that they might be wrong.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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It’s good practice anyway, the front diff on my X5 just exploded and given the supplying dealer’s response so far I see another MCOL scenario looming rolleyes

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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I have a court date!

End of May, so not actually too terrible a wait.

I have written my witness statement and put together the evidence bundle. Will send all that off to the court and the defendants in the next few days.

Worst case is I flush £180 down the toilet.

Amateurish

7,737 posts

222 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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Good luck. You have the right attitude.

I took a dealer to the small claims, and won. The dealer showed up but his defence was risible.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Court date is imminent.

I have got their evidence package though and it is, in my opinion anyway, a joke.

Cherry picking isolated pieces of text from a contract when if you read the entire clause it doesn’t say what they claim it does. Referring to my conduct in mediation, when I understood that nothing from the mediation process could be used in court. Still not addressing the core point of my claim.

Ah well, it will be interesting if nothing else.

Definitely not assuming a positive outcome, what will be will be, if I’m wrong in the eyes of the court I’ll take it as a learning experience.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Court date was cancelled because of lack of available judges. Waiting for it to be rescheduled.......

mattyprice4004

1,327 posts

174 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Glad to see it's working (relatively) well so far - keep us posted.
I've used it twice and been successful both times, for £280 and £600 respectively.