Unmarked police HGV

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Dingu

1,515 posts

7 months

Thursday 12th May
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Roderick Spode said:
How can amending the music track on a phone, appropriately mounted in a cradle adjacent to the steering wheel be deemed worthy of six points and a fine, yet reaching further across to fiddle with a massive screen to find the heater controls be considered perfectly acceptable? Both are equally distracting in my humble opinion.
It isn’t worth six points. So you have nothing to worry about.

944 Man

1,277 posts

109 months

Thursday 12th May
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Welshbeef said:
Now that is interesting as the law states they are not allowed above 55mph so if these are not speed limited and then do exceed said law would they not be facing a fine and points? The speed limit applies to all road users - unless on response.
The speed limit is 60mph for HGVs. EU law concerning speed limiters is in metric units, but it makes no mention of 55mph or its metric equivalent . Exemptions will apply for 'police purposes'.

How can one member i] be so clueless, and ii] demonstrate it with such regularity?

Its Just Adz

11,127 posts

186 months

Thursday 12th May
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Glenn63 said:
One came along side me on the m6 near Wigan, I clocked the plain white unit flying up on me id say easily 70+ then slowed next to me with an officer in the passenger seat with a camera looking into my cab. I was being a good boy as always so they shot off up to the next truck and did the same. There where 2 marked units following a bit behind him and a few miles later one of them had pulled a truck over.
I've had it beside me too. At first I didn't realise and thought "why is the passenger stating at me"
Then I clocked who they were.
As you said, fully marked BMW estate following a few lengths behind.

Register1

1,378 posts

71 months

Thursday 12th May
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jamiem555 said:
No limiter on an unladen tractor unit. That would be quick. In my old life in the early 90’s I was an apprentice HGV fitter. We often took the units out trailer less for test drives. The V8 Scanias would pull 100mph. Limiters came in late on during my apprenticeship.
Wow,
thats amazing, 100 mph, are they steady ?

NikBartlett

310 posts

58 months

Thursday 12th May
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Glenn63 said:
One came along side me on the m6 near Wigan, I clocked the plain white unit flying up on me id say easily 70+ then slowed next to me with an officer in the passenger seat with a camera looking into my cab. I was being a good boy as always so they shot off up to the next truck and did the same. There where 2 marked units following a bit behind him and a few miles later one of them had pulled a truck over.
Do truckers still use CB radio or equivalent ? You would have thought news of a unmarked plod truck prowling the M6 would be all over the trucker airwaves within a few seconds of the first nosy into a cab laugh

Finglescave

26 posts

1 month

Thursday 12th May
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Good. If you’re daft enough to think its a good idea then you deserve the fine and the points.

Seem to remember they trialed using double decker buses in towns and cities to spot people on phones, not sure if they still are but could make a fortune near me.

giantdefy

636 posts

90 months

Thursday 12th May
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Roderick Spode said:
How can amending the music track on a phone, appropriately mounted in a cradle adjacent to the steering wheel be deemed worthy of six points and a fine
It's not

944 Man

1,277 posts

109 months

Thursday 12th May
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NikBartlett said:
Do truckers still use CB radio? :
Did they ever?

normalbloke

5,571 posts

196 months

Thursday 12th May
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944 Man said:
NikBartlett said:
Do truckers still use CB radio? :
Did they ever?
Aka Tourette’s FM.

ConwyC

123 posts

34 months

Friday 13th May
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I Was behind a plain white tractor unit on the A14 being driven erratically some months ago, It was doing 70 then came along side a HGV, slowed down rapidly then sped up again until they come along side another HGV. Was getting more and more frustrated by it until it eventually they turned off. It was a couple of weeks before it dawned on me it was probably the police. I was tempted to undertake it at one point.



Edited by ConwyC on Friday 13th May 04:01

V8 Bob

207 posts

102 months

Friday 13th May
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Anyone wondering about the performance of a modern tractor unit just needs to travel on the A75 Dumfries to Stranraer road when a Ferry is due to leave. Some of our Irish cousins have speed limitations disables and boy can they shift even with in many cases a fully loaded trailer!

Bearing in mind a 40 limit it creates hugely dangerous situations with some drivers keeping to the limit and others chasing to catch a ferry trying to make up lost time.

Huge number of speeding tickets issued but Police Scotland refused a freedom of information request fir a breakdown of speeds and vehicles involved due to the cost and also believe it or not as it would hamper their management of speeding!

MustangGT

9,378 posts

257 months

Friday 13th May
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I would love to know how fast an unlimited Scania 770 tractor unit would go !!

normalbloke

5,571 posts

196 months

Friday 13th May
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MustangGT said:
I would love to know how fast an unlimited Scania 770 tractor unit would go !!
It’d be a maths thing. Rev limiter in top, It’d run out or gearing before it hit any other limiting factor like aerodynamics or lack of power.

SeekerOfTruthAndPies

46 posts

14 months

Friday 13th May
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Welshbeef said:
Now that is interesting as the law states they are not allowed above 55mph so if these are not speed limited and then do exceed said law would they not be facing a fine and points? The speed limit applies to all road users - unless on response.
Point 1: No they wouldn't.

Point 2: No it doesn't.

944 Man

1,277 posts

109 months

Friday 13th May
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MustangGT said:
I would love to know how fast an unlimited Scania 770 tractor unit would go !!
Same as a P410. It depends on the final drive. Most are out of the green at 57mph, if not less.

bigothunter

4,237 posts

37 months

Friday 13th May
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944 Man said:
MustangGT said:
I would love to know how fast an unlimited Scania 770 tractor unit would go !!
Same as a P410. It depends on the final drive. Most are out of the green at 57mph, if not less.
Technical regulations British Truck Racing Championship stipulate:

..the engine and all, ancillaries must be exactly to manufacturer’s standard specification. All vehicles, regardless of class, must be equipped with a speed measuring/recording/limiting device. The maximum permitted road speed is 160 kph (99.4 mph).

Clearly their FDRs are raised but without speed limiters, top speed would readily exceed 100 mph.

I remember an unlimited police artic unit being shown on TV. That reached 100 mph with ease driving

NMNeil

3,919 posts

27 months

Saturday 14th May
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Welshbeef said:
Now that is interesting as the law states they are not allowed above 55mph so if these are not speed limited and then do exceed said law would they not be facing a fine and points? The speed limit applies to all road users - unless on response.
As a rookie cop my FTO drove a few of us up the the shooting range for practice. On the way back he came into the city limits at about 75 when the posted limit was 40. I commented on his speed and his reply was, "Who's going to stop us; the cops, we are the fking cops"
We did make allowances as he was from Texas originally. biggrin

Pit Pony

5,743 posts

98 months

Saturday 14th May
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take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
I wish the police would find more important things to do with their time rather than this nonsense. You won't be able to do anything fun soon.

One of life's greatest pleasures is settling in at steady 70mph cruise as the toast pops up ready for a slathering of finest English salted butter. Then engaging station keeping with your knees as you tuck into two pork sausages, two rashers, egg, beans, lightly sautéed mushrooms - field... Obviously - single slice of black pudding, and a grilled tomato.

By the time you've finished, the kettle will have boiled and you're ready for a cup of lapsang souchong... From a pot obvs.
Brilliant. But surely ones assistant will be cutting it up.for you.

Pit Pony

5,743 posts

98 months

Saturday 14th May
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NikBartlett said:
Do truckers still use CB radio or equivalent ? You would have thought news of a unmarked plod truck prowling the M6 would be all over the trucker airwaves within a few seconds of the first nosy into a cab laugh
It's the sort of thing you wouldn't inform. o there about. Let them.get done for watching Netflix

Glenn63

1,764 posts

61 months

Saturday 14th May
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As others have said it would be the limited gearing before running out of power. If your unit only the acceleration is fairly quick before hitting that limiter with a force. We have a daf hire unit at work at the moment not the most powerful engine available and I’m sure on the specs it was 2500nm at 900rpm, they can pull!