Sold my project car...Now the buyer wants money back!

Sold my project car...Now the buyer wants money back!

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Gareth79

7,666 posts

246 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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catman said:
Have you actually checked to see whether it was a cat D write off? It could also be BS!
That's what I thought.

It sounds like classic buyer's remorse to me, they got it home and then realised it was more than they could cope with.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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JQ said:
So just like Autotrader, Gumtree, Facebook Marketplace, Rightmove, Zoopla, newspaper classifieds and pretty much any other marketing forum. You’re saying adverts don’t need to be factually correct?
I am not saying that at all.


Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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Gareth79 said:
catman said:
Have you actually checked to see whether it was a cat D write off? It could also be BS!
That's what I thought.

It sounds like classic buyer's remorse to me, they got it home and then realised it was more than they could cope with.
Either that or the buyer thought it worth a go at wheedling some money back.

Always a tough call to differentiate between a crafty trying it on wheedle and a feeling ripped off grievance with potential consequences.

Caddyshack

10,794 posts

206 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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Jaguar steve said:
Gareth79 said:
catman said:
Have you actually checked to see whether it was a cat D write off? It could also be BS!
That's what I thought.

It sounds like classic buyer's remorse to me, they got it home and then realised it was more than they could cope with.
Either that or the buyer thought it worth a go at wheedling some money back.

Always a tough call to differentiate between a crafty trying it on wheedle and a feeling ripped off grievance with potential consequences.
I suspect the buyer has looked at the enormity of the project and realised what is entailed and then had a wobble and asked for some money off when they realised they will need to buy expensive parts.

jonsp

807 posts

156 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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Caddyshack said:
I suspect the buyer has looked at the enormity of the project and realised what is entailed and then had a wobble and asked for some money off when they realised they will need to buy expensive parts.
Most likely but this bit from the OP might be relevant.
si.thii said:
I told him the truth that I had kept all the bits in a box and labled everything so I could put it back together (but again I never got to that point). I said he could look in the box to ensure everything was there, he declined.
Perhaps the bits in the box weren't what he thought when he bought the car? His own fault for not satisfying himself at the time of course.

In any case if this ever reaches court the judge is going to assume anyone buying a project can be taken to be mechanically competent with the knowledge to asses a purchase before he hands over his hard-earned. As you suggest the guy's realised he's bitten off more than he can chew.

OutInTheShed

7,597 posts

26 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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jonsp said:
Caddyshack said:
I suspect the buyer has looked at the enormity of the project and realised what is entailed and then had a wobble and asked for some money off when they realised they will need to buy expensive parts.
Most likely but this bit from the OP might be relevant.
si.thii said:
I told him the truth that I had kept all the bits in a box and labled everything so I could put it back together (but again I never got to that point). I said he could look in the box to ensure everything was there, he declined.
Perhaps the bits in the box weren't what he thought when he bought the car? His own fault for not satisfying himself at the time of course.

In any case if this ever reaches court the judge is going to assume anyone buying a project can be taken to be mechanically competent with the knowledge to asses a purchase before he hands over his hard-earned. As you suggest the guy's realised he's bitten off more than he can chew.
That could be taken to imply all the parts required are in the box included. And in a suitable condition to be re-assembled into a working car.

It's not completely unreasonable for a buyer to trust the seller's word about a box of parts. The buyer is not going to be able to evaluate the state of every part or check every last part against an items list. Maybe the buyer has misunderstood exactly what the seller was saying about the box of bits? Maybe the seller wasn't exact enough? Maybe the buyer heard what he wanted to hear rather than exactly what the seller said?

I've bought and sold a few boats. Inventory is a nightmare. People want to agree a price before itemising stuff properly. It's easy to find the 'trivial' bit you didn't notice was missing costs actual money. Buyers assume stuff will be included when it's not on the list, because the vendor is either keeping it or never had it in the first place.

So you have to either itemise every little thing that's present or missing, or take the view that anything that's not actually complete and seen to be working is not worth much.

MesoForm

8,883 posts

275 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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Terminator X said:
How many posts like this, tell the guy to FRO.

TX.
There is a Wiki of them
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
But I'm sure there's a lot more posts than just those!

HendrixsWhiteStratReturns

51 posts

56 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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I always describe any car I’m selling warts and all and make a point of listing everything I’m aware of - I also welcome all inspections. Once I sell it I give the buyer a receipt stating that it is sold based on the aforementioned with no warranty implied or given. Never had an issue and honesty is the best policy, always. Sound like you have done the same so you need have no concerns.

DJP

1,198 posts

179 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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This sounds like a project car (very) honestly described.

The buyer doesn't have a leg to stand on.

elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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Not that it would be admissible but the ad does state “she is perfect”. That won’t help!

mmm-five

11,239 posts

284 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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elanfan said:
Not that it would be admissible but the ad does state “she is perfect”. That won’t help!
Out of context, as you've written it, no it wouldn't help.

But a 'perfect' condition car would not be of any use to someone looking for a project.

However in the context of the whole sentence...
si.thii said:
For the right person who can get her completed and knows how valuable she can become, she is perfect.
...there's nothing wrong with the phrase.

Full para for reference:
si.thii said:
Again, I must emphasise that she is a project car. For the right person who can get her completed and knows how valuable she can become, she is perfect. I also must retain the right to cancel and remove her from sale at any time if by some miracle I manage to find the ability to repair her. You will need to collect with a trailer, she is currently SORN'd, and it is preferred for cash on collection. I retain the right to end the listing without notice, as there is an interested party already. Thank you for understanding and appriciating this. Any further questions please feel free to ask and I will do my best to get back to you ASAP around my shifts at work."

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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elanfan said:
Not that it would be admissible but the ad does state “she is perfect”. That won’t help!
Are you a tabloid journalist?

That taking out of context quoting you just did is typical of that group of people.