Middle lane idiot
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The whole newspaper is typical journalistic bks.
Nobody was furious because nobody was there to be furious.
Cars on low profile tyres feel poor road surface more.
Lane 1 on motorways tends to be heavily grooved by HGVs, which have a wider track than cars, and so can cause your car to handle less well than normally.
So I for one IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, don't blame Mr Entitled BMW driver for being in that lane.
Nobody was furious because nobody was there to be furious.
Cars on low profile tyres feel poor road surface more.
Lane 1 on motorways tends to be heavily grooved by HGVs, which have a wider track than cars, and so can cause your car to handle less well than normally.
So I for one IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, don't blame Mr Entitled BMW driver for being in that lane.
Gareth79 said:
On the 4-lane southern stretch of the M25 the current lane usage seems to be:
- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: Cars driving as slowly as HGVs but who don't think they are
- Lane 3: MLMs (maybe being undertaken by lanes 1 and 2)
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress
I tend to make more progress in lanes 1 and 2 on that stretch of the M25 - Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: Cars driving as slowly as HGVs but who don't think they are
- Lane 3: MLMs (maybe being undertaken by lanes 1 and 2)
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress
QBee said:
Cars on low profile tyres feel poor road surface more.
Lane 1 on motorways tends to be heavily grooved by HGVs, which have a wider track than cars, and so can cause your car to handle less well than normally.
So I for one IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, don't blame Mr Entitled BMW driver for being in that lane.
I've had numerous cars with 17" and 18" alloys and the only one that I've experienced tramlining was on a drag Skyline on 18"s that had a lot of work done to it. It felt like I was driving a motorboat on choppy waters. That BMW must have some non-standard setup?Lane 1 on motorways tends to be heavily grooved by HGVs, which have a wider track than cars, and so can cause your car to handle less well than normally.
So I for one IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, don't blame Mr Entitled BMW driver for being in that lane.
Derek Smith said:
I was in a police Volvo V5 Turbo, at speed, on an almost empty M23. We were in the middle lane, Fair enough, there was little likelihood of anyone coming up behind at the speed we were doing, but the driver's thinking was that if there's a sudden loss of pressure in on tyre, he'd have more chance of holding the car from the middle lane.
The fastest I've ever been on a road was in another V5 Turbo. We were circa 145 at times. There was traffic around and the driver stuck to the middle lane. Traffic was slow to pull over, despite the blues, and we frequently slowed. If the car in front stuck to the middle lane then it was evidence that they hadn't seen us and a car passing at over twice their speed was felt to be dangerous.
I'm with you, if there's no traffic and the inside lane is rutted, the middle lane for me.
Sorry i know this is pedantic but do you mean a (V70) T5?The fastest I've ever been on a road was in another V5 Turbo. We were circa 145 at times. There was traffic around and the driver stuck to the middle lane. Traffic was slow to pull over, despite the blues, and we frequently slowed. If the car in front stuck to the middle lane then it was evidence that they hadn't seen us and a car passing at over twice their speed was felt to be dangerous.
I'm with you, if there's no traffic and the inside lane is rutted, the middle lane for me.
Hoofy said:
QBee said:
Cars on low profile tyres feel poor road surface more.
Lane 1 on motorways tends to be heavily grooved by HGVs, which have a wider track than cars, and so can cause your car to handle less well than normally.
So I for one IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, don't blame Mr Entitled BMW driver for being in that lane.
I've had numerous cars with 17" and 18" alloys and the only one that I've experienced tramlining was on a drag Skyline on 18"s that had a lot of work done to it. It felt like I was driving a motorboat on choppy waters. That BMW must have some non-standard setup?Lane 1 on motorways tends to be heavily grooved by HGVs, which have a wider track than cars, and so can cause your car to handle less well than normally.
So I for one IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, don't blame Mr Entitled BMW driver for being in that lane.
The only cars I've found partial to tramlining are rollerskates. Light weight, narrow track, very taught suspension and aggressive geometry. I would expect that something like a Ka could experience it due to the narrow track, and something modified (like that Skyline) due to suspension/geometry mods.
I've certainly not found it an issue with anything "normal", and TBH the vast majority of MLMers drive around in vanilla model hatchbacks and hatchback-on-stilts cars so the tramlining is not a valid excuse for them either.
Gareth79 said:
On the 4-lane southern stretch of the M25 the current lane usage seems to be:
- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: Cars driving as slowly as HGVs but who don't think they are
- Lane 3: MLMs (maybe being undertaken by lanes 1 and 2)
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress
You're lucky. On the M6 in the Midlands between J2 and J4a in the morning it's- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: Cars driving as slowly as HGVs but who don't think they are
- Lane 3: MLMs (maybe being undertaken by lanes 1 and 2)
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress
- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: HGVs
- Lane 3: HGVs and everything else doing HGV speeds
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress, and being held up by someone doing 55
If there's one law that needs to be changed it's restricting HGVs to the first two lanes regardless of how many there are.
Axe wound said:
L1OFF said:
I was on the inside lane pulled over to the outside lane and flashed him, he moved to the middle lane and then back to the outside after I had passed. Weird.
I've never understood that either. I see it happen on the A33 quite a lot for some reason.PorkInsider said:
Canon_Fodder said:
The white BMW driver has been called out for hogging the middle lane on the empty M5
That sentence doesn't make sense. But then it is the Sun
Indeed.That sentence doesn't make sense. But then it is the Sun
Also, "called out..." the refrain of utter 'tards.
In a similar vein, any email that starts "I just wanted to reach out to you....." or "I will ask (insert name) to reach out to you" is immediately binned and the address blocked.
It's usually some yoof in a sharp suit trying to sell me foreign exchange dealing facilities or similar. The 45 year age gap reduces my wish to reply to them to absolute zero.
Happy to be an old fart who still uses computers 8 hours+ a day and speaks English.
It's usually some yoof in a sharp suit trying to sell me foreign exchange dealing facilities or similar. The 45 year age gap reduces my wish to reply to them to absolute zero.
Happy to be an old fart who still uses computers 8 hours+ a day and speaks English.
sim72 said:
Gareth79 said:
On the 4-lane southern stretch of the M25 the current lane usage seems to be:
- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: Cars driving as slowly as HGVs but who don't think they are
- Lane 3: MLMs (maybe being undertaken by lanes 1 and 2)
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress
You're lucky. On the M6 in the Midlands between J2 and J4a in the morning it's- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: Cars driving as slowly as HGVs but who don't think they are
- Lane 3: MLMs (maybe being undertaken by lanes 1 and 2)
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress
- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: HGVs
- Lane 3: HGVs and everything else doing HGV speeds
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress, and being held up by someone doing 55
Biggus thingus said:
I just undertake anyone cruising along in lane 2/3
I then don't bother getting irate or putting something about it on face book or twittering
Yep, don't alter speed, just cruise past, don't get annoyed anymore as it's just not worth it. The standard of driving is st nowadays so getting annoyed over st drivers would just keep my blood permanently at boiling point! I then don't bother getting irate or putting something about it on face book or twittering
As my driving instructor would say "Treat everyone else on the road as an idiot, and you won't be far wrong!" Has proved right on any number of occasions when I used to do loads of motorway miles.
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