Middle lane idiot

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ScoobyChris

1,667 posts

201 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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2 GKC said:
Why does that not make sense?
The implication of "hogging" is that you are taking something other people want to use. He was on an empty motorway.

Chris

QBee

20,905 posts

143 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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The whole newspaper is typical journalistic bks.
Nobody was furious because nobody was there to be furious.

Cars on low profile tyres feel poor road surface more.
Lane 1 on motorways tends to be heavily grooved by HGVs, which have a wider track than cars, and so can cause your car to handle less well than normally.
So I for one IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, don't blame Mr Entitled BMW driver for being in that lane.

2 GKC

1,884 posts

104 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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ScoobyChris said:
The implication of "hogging" is that you are taking something other people want to use. He was on an empty motorway.

Chris
Doesn’t mean the sentence doesn’t make sense though does it? Nobody is going to read it and wonder what they meant.

croyde

22,704 posts

229 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Gareth79 said:
On the 4-lane southern stretch of the M25 the current lane usage seems to be:

- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: Cars driving as slowly as HGVs but who don't think they are
- Lane 3: MLMs (maybe being undertaken by lanes 1 and 2)
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress
I tend to make more progress in lanes 1 and 2 on that stretch of the M25 hehe

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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QBee said:
Cars on low profile tyres feel poor road surface more.
Lane 1 on motorways tends to be heavily grooved by HGVs, which have a wider track than cars, and so can cause your car to handle less well than normally.
So I for one IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, don't blame Mr Entitled BMW driver for being in that lane.
I've had numerous cars with 17" and 18" alloys and the only one that I've experienced tramlining was on a drag Skyline on 18"s that had a lot of work done to it. It felt like I was driving a motorboat on choppy waters. That BMW must have some non-standard setup?


Pica-Pica

13,621 posts

83 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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I keep to left lane if not overtaking, but, in this case, there is no one else about, and there is a entering slip-road coming up, according to the sign.

Countdown

39,690 posts

195 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Derek Smith said:
I was in a police Volvo V5 Turbo, at speed, on an almost empty M23. We were in the middle lane, Fair enough, there was little likelihood of anyone coming up behind at the speed we were doing, but the driver's thinking was that if there's a sudden loss of pressure in on tyre, he'd have more chance of holding the car from the middle lane.

The fastest I've ever been on a road was in another V5 Turbo. We were circa 145 at times. There was traffic around and the driver stuck to the middle lane. Traffic was slow to pull over, despite the blues, and we frequently slowed. If the car in front stuck to the middle lane then it was evidence that they hadn't seen us and a car passing at over twice their speed was felt to be dangerous.

I'm with you, if there's no traffic and the inside lane is rutted, the middle lane for me.
Sorry i know this is pedantic but do you mean a (V70) T5?

donkmeister

7,998 posts

99 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Hoofy said:
QBee said:
Cars on low profile tyres feel poor road surface more.
Lane 1 on motorways tends to be heavily grooved by HGVs, which have a wider track than cars, and so can cause your car to handle less well than normally.
So I for one IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, don't blame Mr Entitled BMW driver for being in that lane.
I've had numerous cars with 17" and 18" alloys and the only one that I've experienced tramlining was on a drag Skyline on 18"s that had a lot of work done to it. It felt like I was driving a motorboat on choppy waters. That BMW must have some non-standard setup?
Agreed, a standard BMW is built to dampen road surface anomalies such as tramlines.

The only cars I've found partial to tramlining are rollerskates. Light weight, narrow track, very taught suspension and aggressive geometry. I would expect that something like a Ka could experience it due to the narrow track, and something modified (like that Skyline) due to suspension/geometry mods.

I've certainly not found it an issue with anything "normal", and TBH the vast majority of MLMers drive around in vanilla model hatchbacks and hatchback-on-stilts cars so the tramlining is not a valid excuse for them either.

sim72

4,945 posts

133 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Gareth79 said:
On the 4-lane southern stretch of the M25 the current lane usage seems to be:

- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: Cars driving as slowly as HGVs but who don't think they are
- Lane 3: MLMs (maybe being undertaken by lanes 1 and 2)
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress
You're lucky. On the M6 in the Midlands between J2 and J4a in the morning it's
- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: HGVs
- Lane 3: HGVs and everything else doing HGV speeds
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress, and being held up by someone doing 55

If there's one law that needs to be changed it's restricting HGVs to the first two lanes regardless of how many there are.

Deep Thought

35,724 posts

196 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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I dont see the problem, from that picture it looks like he's heading on over to the BMW lane.

Axe wound

1,156 posts

100 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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L1OFF said:
I was on the inside lane pulled over to the outside lane and flashed him, he moved to the middle lane and then back to the outside after I had passed. Weird.
I've never understood that either. I see it happen on the A33 quite a lot for some reason.

VSKeith

711 posts

46 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Axe wound said:
L1OFF said:
I was on the inside lane pulled over to the outside lane and flashed him, he moved to the middle lane and then back to the outside after I had passed. Weird.
I've never understood that either. I see it happen on the A33 quite a lot for some reason.
I would have passed on the inside if I was already in an inside lane. I would also have made correct use of the horn to ensure they knew I was there.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

185 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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PorkInsider said:
Canon_Fodder said:
The white BMW driver has been called out for hogging the middle lane on the empty M5

That sentence doesn't make sense. But then it is the Sun
Indeed.

Also, "called out..." the refrain of utter 'tards.
Yep, not sure if I hate MLM's or people who say "called out" more!

QBee

20,905 posts

143 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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In a similar vein, any email that starts "I just wanted to reach out to you....." or "I will ask (insert name) to reach out to you" is immediately binned and the address blocked.
It's usually some yoof in a sharp suit trying to sell me foreign exchange dealing facilities or similar. The 45 year age gap reduces my wish to reply to them to absolute zero.
Happy to be an old fart who still uses computers 8 hours+ a day and speaks English.

bigothunter

11,069 posts

59 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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sim72 said:
Gareth79 said:
On the 4-lane southern stretch of the M25 the current lane usage seems to be:

- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: Cars driving as slowly as HGVs but who don't think they are
- Lane 3: MLMs (maybe being undertaken by lanes 1 and 2)
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress
You're lucky. On the M6 in the Midlands between J2 and J4a in the morning it's
- Lane 1: HGVs
- Lane 2: HGVs
- Lane 3: HGVs and everything else doing HGV speeds
- Lane 4: Everybody else trying to make progress, and being held up by someone doing 55
Like speed, progress has become a dirty word. And 55 mph is quite fast enough for anyone, thankyou. Roads are not race tracks nono

jm doc

2,776 posts

231 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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I caught up with this late one evening. Completely oblivious, no other vehicle in sight for several minutes and doing around 40mph (50 limit). Not the best pic but it is a fully liveried patrol car

Biggus thingus

1,358 posts

43 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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I just undertake anyone cruising along in lane 2/3

I then don't bother getting irate or putting something about it on face book or twittering

Short Grain

2,743 posts

219 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Biggus thingus said:
I just undertake anyone cruising along in lane 2/3

I then don't bother getting irate or putting something about it on face book or twittering
Yep, don't alter speed, just cruise past, don't get annoyed anymore as it's just not worth it. The standard of driving is st nowadays so getting annoyed over st drivers would just keep my blood permanently at boiling point!
As my driving instructor would say "Treat everyone else on the road as an idiot, and you won't be far wrong!" Has proved right on any number of occasions when I used to do loads of motorway miles. driving

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

185 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Biggus thingus said:
I just undertake anyone cruising along in lane 2/3

I then don't bother getting irate or putting something about it on face book or twittering
Even a police car?

spikeyhead

17,225 posts

196 months