Police enquiry at home
Discussion
Frequently knock on a door at all hours, after all Policing is a 24hr service.
For example - attending a disturbance. Something "feels off". Go try the neighbours.........but I wouldn't be too persistent.
I wouldn't leave a card unless I wanted contact.
I wouldn't leave a card without details.
If it's part of my workload. I'm dealing with it. There's absolutely no chance another colleague is going to touch it while I'm off duty.
If it was REALLY urgent, then it would be passed over to the next shift. But that is reserved for enquiries for someone in the cells.
Considering how bad the pay is, I'm sorry but at the end of my shift, all I'm thinking about is -
Have I completed the necessary paperwork for everything I've been to in my shift??
Have I put the car keys back?
Have I booked my Taser back in?
If my call at your house wasn't urgent...... I'm not making contact now. I'm going home.
(FYI can't claim overtime until 45mins after my shift).
The only odd thing here........why leave a contact card with no details??
Sounds like this Officer is one of those on the degree path..... lacking a bit of common sense.
What is complaining about this going to achieve???
The Officer has already called at your address, so it won't fix that.
The Officer has already gone home, so it won't fix that.
For example - attending a disturbance. Something "feels off". Go try the neighbours.........but I wouldn't be too persistent.
I wouldn't leave a card unless I wanted contact.
I wouldn't leave a card without details.
If it's part of my workload. I'm dealing with it. There's absolutely no chance another colleague is going to touch it while I'm off duty.
If it was REALLY urgent, then it would be passed over to the next shift. But that is reserved for enquiries for someone in the cells.
Considering how bad the pay is, I'm sorry but at the end of my shift, all I'm thinking about is -
Have I completed the necessary paperwork for everything I've been to in my shift??
Have I put the car keys back?
Have I booked my Taser back in?
If my call at your house wasn't urgent...... I'm not making contact now. I'm going home.
(FYI can't claim overtime until 45mins after my shift).
The only odd thing here........why leave a contact card with no details??
Sounds like this Officer is one of those on the degree path..... lacking a bit of common sense.
What is complaining about this going to achieve???
The Officer has already called at your address, so it won't fix that.
The Officer has already gone home, so it won't fix that.
the mac said:
I appreciate your input, however what’s the point in complaining? Is that not the same for most things?
Guy punched me in the face, oh well it’s done now no point complaining!
Receive a nip for running a Red light or going into a cycle lane! What is the point it’s done now?
What are you trying to achieve by complaining?Guy punched me in the face, oh well it’s done now no point complaining!
Receive a nip for running a Red light or going into a cycle lane! What is the point it’s done now?
- Guy punched you in the face = appropriate action for someone causing you physical harm and committing an offence.
- Receive a NIP = if you didn't do it you shouldn't be punished.
To throw my opinion in. Calling on someone at nigh on midnight for a 'non-urgent' matter is completely unacceptable. To leave incomplete information on a calling card in the circumstances is completely unacceptable.
It is upsetting how many Police Officers on here think otherwise. However it is not surprising. My limited observations of the police is that they do not hold themselves to the same rules of both behaviour and law that they expect the general public to abide by.
It is upsetting how many Police Officers on here think otherwise. However it is not surprising. My limited observations of the police is that they do not hold themselves to the same rules of both behaviour and law that they expect the general public to abide by.
Voldemort said:
To throw my opinion in. Calling on someone at nigh on midnight for a 'non-urgent' matter is completely unacceptable. To leave incomplete information on a calling card in the circumstances is completely unacceptable.
It is upsetting how many Police Officers on here think otherwise. However it is not surprising. My limited observations of the police is that they do not hold themselves to the same rules of both behaviour and law that they expect the general public to abide by.
That’s certainly what is becoming very apparent from this thread:It is upsetting how many Police Officers on here think otherwise. However it is not surprising. My limited observations of the police is that they do not hold themselves to the same rules of both behaviour and law that they expect the general public to abide by.
Nibbles_bits said:
What are you trying to achieve by complaining?
Interesting what you class as a “mild” inconvenience,- Guy punched you in the face = appropriate action for someone causing you physical harm and committing an offence.
- Receive a NIP = if you didn't do it you shouldn't be punished.
Maybe if it was only one thing however when you add together the midnight call, the hour on hold to 101 due to them not leaving any contact details, the lack of return call and then the week left not knowing what I’ve apparently done! Surely you can see that’s more than a mild inconvenience! But then there is an element of the Police couldn’t care less! Certainly from what we read here.
the mac said:
Maybe that one officer could learn something though!
Lessons won't be learned based on the attitude shown by police here.12 IS too late. As a general population we need 7 to 8 hrs sleep. If you've got to get to work in the morning... Do the maths. And being knocked up at 12 is putting you getting to sleep a couple of hours after that... For something not important.
Most law abiding citizens will worry if the police want to speak to them... It's human nature. It's not hysterical. Regardless of whether you've done anything wrong... Most will worry, could I have done something wrong and not realised. Ironically, it's driven by the (rapidly disappearing) respect that was drilled into most folks as kids. I'm amazed the police on here can't see that. You must have heard people say they feel guilty just walking past a police officer.
I'd suggest your views are biased by dealing mostly with people who don't give a f*** about the police. This is your normal... But not that of the public.
So It's either important enough to call at midnight or it's not important enough to wait a week. It can't be both.
In the grand scheme of things, it's really not that important, but what I find really disappointing is how strong the defence is of someone who has clearly dropped the ball. It's not the end of the world, but they have.
Such staunch and illogical defence of this, just adds to the erosion of respect that the police complain about.
This reminds me of a time when we stayed on a Haven holiday park.
Woke up on the middle of the night with torches shining in to the mobile home and someone pounding on the door.
Opened it and a number of officers marched in and demanded I produce teenage son and his friend.
I did. They shone a torch at him and said not them. They left in a fleet of vehicles with me being somewhat discombobulated trying to work out what the duck had just happened.
Had a good moan at reception (not the only one either) next day and a semi explanation from security to say that someone hassle been assaulted by two teenagers so they had been raiding caravans with two teenagers at 3am.
I get the police are overworked and off duty. Their normal customers don’t like them. But that does not excuse their inability to step away and think what if this was my wife / husband - Would I be happy with this?
Woke up on the middle of the night with torches shining in to the mobile home and someone pounding on the door.
Opened it and a number of officers marched in and demanded I produce teenage son and his friend.
I did. They shone a torch at him and said not them. They left in a fleet of vehicles with me being somewhat discombobulated trying to work out what the duck had just happened.
Had a good moan at reception (not the only one either) next day and a semi explanation from security to say that someone hassle been assaulted by two teenagers so they had been raiding caravans with two teenagers at 3am.
I get the police are overworked and off duty. Their normal customers don’t like them. But that does not excuse their inability to step away and think what if this was my wife / husband - Would I be happy with this?
M.F.D said:
the mac said:
Yeah definitely odd, and I’ve not murdered anyone recently or anything! Presume it could be motoring related but again nothing springs to mind.
What makes you assume it could be motoring related?surveyor said:
I get the police are overworked and off duty. Their normal customers don’t like them. But that does not excuse their inability to step away and think what if this was my wife / husband - Would I be happy with this?
As their contributions to this thread show, the stock response to criticism seems to be to circle wagons, and start belittling the critics for good measure. It's the old public sector worker mindset- we're doing you a favour. Well if you don't like it (and can't do it with good grace), go get another job. Otherwise take the criticism on board and get on with it. As others have said, the defensive nature of those on here is a sad state of affairs.
I've really enjoyed this thread for no other reason that I no longer feel like it was ME and MY attitude that has made me become much more negative towards the police over the years (decades) . It would seem many others have too and its largely driven by the arrogance of some ( not all) of those who serve as police officers.
This guy dropped the ball and those colleagues defending should just take a step back and agree yeah he probably did drop the ball.
This could have been anyone's elderly parents home, who couldn't easily let alone quickly get up, grab a robe, get downstairs and answer a random door knock to then only find a lazily filled in card.
If this had been my mum she wouldn't have rested for a month afterwards and would have worried about it hugely!
Why is everyone complaining , well hopefully but doubtfully in future years the force can be directed to learn and maybe not make unsolicited house calls for non urgent stuff after say 9.30 or 10pm
This guy dropped the ball and those colleagues defending should just take a step back and agree yeah he probably did drop the ball.
This could have been anyone's elderly parents home, who couldn't easily let alone quickly get up, grab a robe, get downstairs and answer a random door knock to then only find a lazily filled in card.
If this had been my mum she wouldn't have rested for a month afterwards and would have worried about it hugely!
Why is everyone complaining , well hopefully but doubtfully in future years the force can be directed to learn and maybe not make unsolicited house calls for non urgent stuff after say 9.30 or 10pm
Think it’s all been said, but if it’s something that can wait a week it’s something that could be dealt with in office hours.
Come midnight, most people over 30 are either in bed or asleep - the exceptions being shift workers. As expressed by a number of people on this thread, most people also don’t have any previous dealings with the police, and would assume that a midnight call indicates something important. They’re then going to worry about what it is until it’s resolved.
Come midnight, most people over 30 are either in bed or asleep - the exceptions being shift workers. As expressed by a number of people on this thread, most people also don’t have any previous dealings with the police, and would assume that a midnight call indicates something important. They’re then going to worry about what it is until it’s resolved.
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