Police enquiry at home

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Stuart70

3,933 posts

183 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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vonhosen said:
What's special about midnight?
I'm rarely in bed before midnight.
I am very rarely up past midnight, but they are welcome to knock on the door at 6am. smile

Each to their own.

Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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monthou said:
Greendubber said:
I can take it on board just fine but I know the constraints and lack of time officers have these days. It could be an on going enquiry and the Bobby found himself in the area so thought a quick door knock was in order. Lots of people are still awake at midnight, he didn't continue to knock the door and wake the road up, he left a card and went on his way. I'm sure he'd have much preferred to do it on a Wednesday afternoon but owing to the fact this was at night it would have been a response officer. Add a shift pattern, daily demand and ongoing work load into the mix and it could have been the only opportunity he had that week to try and quickly deal with whatever it is he had to do. So how about a few people look at it from his POV, after all it works both ways.
From his point of view...
Leave a card with a contact email. Or rather don't leave that part blank.
Leave a contact phone number. Or rather...
Failing the above...when you know the guy has been to the police station to pass his number on because he's concerned give him a call, drop him an email or ask a colleague to follow up. Even if it takes 5 minutes of your own time.
Or don't ring a bell at midnight unless it's urgent.
If I sound unsympathetic I apologise, in the same spirit as your earlier apologies.
I couldn't care if you're sympathetic or not to be honest, I'm just offering an alternative POV. You don't have to like it or agree with it just like I don't have to like or agree with what you're posting.


M.F.D

703 posts

101 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Greendubber said:
I wonder if that particular poster doesn't allow his wife to the Drs, after all Shipman and all that.
I hope not. I read in the paper all general practitioners are serial killers!

monthou

4,575 posts

50 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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vonhosen said:
What's special about midnight?
I'm rarely in bed before midnight.
It's not a normal time to phone / visit a stranger unannounced unless it's an emergency.
That doesn't have to mean everyone would have a problem with it.

Bigends

5,414 posts

128 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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If the jobs is that non urgent and will wait for a week, whys the officer wasting their valuable time even knocking or leaving a note with no contact details, forcing the OP to try and instigate further contact with them.
Just call back in 7 days when back on duty.

vonhosen

40,230 posts

217 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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monthou said:
vonhosen said:
What's special about midnight?
I'm rarely in bed before midnight.
It's not a normal time to phone / visit a stranger unannounced unless it's an emergency.
Says you.
Others will say differently.

That's the thing, opinions vary & you can't please everyone all of the time.
After all the OP was awake, he just wasn't at home.

monthou

4,575 posts

50 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Greendubber said:
I couldn't care if you're sympathetic or not to be honest, I'm just offering an alternative POV. You don't have to like it or agree with it just like I don't have to like or agree with what you're posting.
Your alternative p.o.v. is all based on the feelings of the poor overworked officer on one side of the door though.
You haven't addressed anything I wrote.
Why not leave a contact in the space on the card?
Why not give a quick call when you know it's an issue?

monthou

4,575 posts

50 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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vonhosen said:
monthou said:
vonhosen said:
What's special about midnight?
I'm rarely in bed before midnight.
It's not a normal time to phone / visit a stranger unannounced unless it's an emergency.
Says you.
Others will say differently.

That's the thing, opinions vary & you can't please everyone all of the time.
After all the OP was awake, he just wasn't at home.
Yes, says me.
Midnight, no lights showing.
Who thinks that's okay? Obviously you do.
But plenty of people don't, see the thread for examples.
The law says telemarketers can't call after 9pm. Maybe there should be a list of people who are awake at midnight and wouldn't mind a call.

Bigends

5,414 posts

128 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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vonhosen said:
monthou said:
vonhosen said:
What's special about midnight?
I'm rarely in bed before midnight.
It's not a normal time to phone / visit a stranger unannounced unless it's an emergency.
Says you.
Others will say differently.

That's the thing, opinions vary & you can't please everyone all of the time.
After all the OP was awake, he just wasn't at home.
Never door knocked for non urgent matters after 10.30pm, and even then only by prior arrangement.

Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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monthou said:
Greendubber said:
I couldn't care if you're sympathetic or not to be honest, I'm just offering an alternative POV. You don't have to like it or agree with it just like I don't have to like or agree with what you're posting.
Your alternative p.o.v. is all based on the feelings of the poor overworked officer on one side of the door though.
You haven't addressed anything I wrote.
Why not leave a contact in the space on the card?
Why not give a quick call when you know it's an issue?
Maybe he forgot, maybe he didn't want to, maybe he thought what's the point of leaving a number that won't be answered for a week.

As previously mentioned, maybe he had a busy shift and it slipped his mind, we don't know but it's easier to just say how crap it all is rather than thinking of the bigger picture I suppose.

PorkInsider

5,886 posts

141 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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vonhosen said:
monthou said:
vonhosen said:
What's special about midnight?
I'm rarely in bed before midnight.
It's not a normal time to phone / visit a stranger unannounced unless it's an emergency.
Says you.
Others will say differently.

That's the thing, opinions vary & you can't please everyone all of the time.
After all the OP was awake, he just wasn't at home.
Presumably you'd be fine with someone rolling up unannounced to read your gas meter at midnight too?

I can't believe the coppers on this thread find it so hard to believe the general public might be concerned by them knocking on their door at midnight, let alone then telling them they'll get to know what it's about in a week's time.

For those of us who have zero dealings with the police this sort of thing is bound to be concerning. Amazed that's a surprise to you.

monthou

4,575 posts

50 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Greendubber said:
As previously mentioned, maybe he had a busy shift and it slipped his mind, we don't know but it's easier to just say how crap it all is rather than thinking of the bigger picture I suppose.
From the OP...
"The person on duty managed to radio through to the officer involved and then passed on to me they were just about to finish their shift but had my number and would be in contact when they were back on duty in a weeks time! When I asked what it was in relation to I was told they couldn’t tell me but it was nothing to worry about!."

So no.

Trevor555

4,426 posts

84 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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PorkInsider said:
I can't believe the coppers on this thread find it so hard to believe the general public might be concerned by them knocking on their door at midnight, let alone then telling them they'll get to know what it's about in a week's time.

For those of us who have zero dealings with the police this sort of thing is bound to be concerning. Amazed that's a surprise to you.
I'm sure one or two that have said it isn't ideal/they wouldn't have done it, are Police officers, or former Police officers.

XCP

16,909 posts

228 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Bigends said:
Never door knocked for non urgent matters after 10.30pm, and even then only by prior arrangement.
You made a prior appointment before knocking on someones door every time? Bull st.

Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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monthou said:
Greendubber said:
As previously mentioned, maybe he had a busy shift and it slipped his mind, we don't know but it's easier to just say how crap it all is rather than thinking of the bigger picture I suppose.
From the OP...
"The person on duty managed to radio through to the officer involved and then passed on to me they were just about to finish their shift but had my number and would be in contact when they were back on duty in a weeks time! When I asked what it was in relation to I was told they couldn’t tell me but it was nothing to worry about!."

So no.
So yes, about to finish a night shift and wanting to go home. The officer would have finished at 7.00am, onto their days off. I'd be out the door too.

What's unreasonable about being told they'll speak to the OP when they're back on duty? Nothing, they've been told it's nothing to worry about so why think it's anything other than that?

Trevor555

4,426 posts

84 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Greendubber said:
They've been told it's nothing to worry about so why think it's anything other than that?
But most people would worry about a Police officer contacting them about something.

Being kept in the dark for a week would be on most people's minds, they'd just want to know why.

vonhosen

40,230 posts

217 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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PorkInsider said:
vonhosen said:
monthou said:
vonhosen said:
What's special about midnight?
I'm rarely in bed before midnight.
It's not a normal time to phone / visit a stranger unannounced unless it's an emergency.
Says you.
Others will say differently.

That's the thing, opinions vary & you can't please everyone all of the time.
After all the OP was awake, he just wasn't at home.
Presumably you'd be fine with someone rolling up unannounced to read your gas meter at midnight too?

I can't believe the coppers on this thread find it so hard to believe the general public might be concerned by them knocking on their door at midnight, let alone then telling them they'll get to know what it's about in a week's time.

For those of us who have zero dealings with the police this sort of thing is bound to be concerning. Amazed that's a surprise to you.
Yep, I'm fine with that & if I wasn't I wouldn't answer & they could come back another time.
It's no big deal.
I'm fine with the OP's wife not opening the door if she wasn't happy, just as I'm fine with people calling at midnight.

Where I live there is still a lot of activity at midnight, it's not a sleepy hollow at that time.


Edited by vonhosen on Sunday 26th June 14:40

vonhosen

40,230 posts

217 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Bigends said:
vonhosen said:
monthou said:
vonhosen said:
What's special about midnight?
I'm rarely in bed before midnight.
It's not a normal time to phone / visit a stranger unannounced unless it's an emergency.
Says you.
Others will say differently.

That's the thing, opinions vary & you can't please everyone all of the time.
After all the OP was awake, he just wasn't at home.
Never door knocked for non urgent matters after 10.30pm, and even then only by prior arrangement.
Perhaps we worked in very different areas.
What's special about 10.30pm?
That's just a figure you've picked based on your experience for the area you worked.
Different areas, different experience.

It's still pretty busy at midnight where I've worked.


Edited by vonhosen on Sunday 26th June 14:48

monthou

4,575 posts

50 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Greendubber said:
So yes, about to finish a night shift and wanting to go home. The officer would have finished at 7.00am, onto their days off. I'd be out the door too.

What's unreasonable about being told they'll speak to the OP when they're back on duty? Nothing, they've been told it's nothing to worry about so why think it's anything other than that?
I imagine you're often surprised and disappointed by the public's lack of respect / gratitude shown towards hardworking police officers.
Ah well. You reap what you sow.

Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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monthou said:
Greendubber said:
So yes, about to finish a night shift and wanting to go home. The officer would have finished at 7.00am, onto their days off. I'd be out the door too.

What's unreasonable about being told they'll speak to the OP when they're back on duty? Nothing, they've been told it's nothing to worry about so why think it's anything other than that?
I imagine you're often surprised and disappointed by the public's lack of respect / gratitude shown towards hardworking police officers.
Ah well. You reap what you sow.
No, I'm not. The general public and posters on here are all entirely predictable. No idea what officers actually have to do, no idea of the constraints on them, no idea how much of a work load they're carrying. The public are getting the police service they deserve and the one they voted for.

He's being told to wait a few days for a call back, horrendous.