Police and Security "Auditers"

Police and Security "Auditers"

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Elysium

13,812 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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What The Deuces said:
Mr Miata said:
The bottom line is, this has been going on for years. And in that time has any YouTube Auditor been successfully prosecuted for it?

No

Can it be solved by ignoring them?

Yes

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 29th March 12:46
Why would anyone want to ignore somebody illegally processing their personal data when such an effort has been made by society to establish the concept and legal framework of owning your data?
And once again we are back to GDPR.

As before you make a definitive statement that this activity is illegal when the truth is anything but definitive.

banghead

You are ignoring the basic reality that if you confront them to explain GDPR you are just going to hand them content.

So the best answer, either way, is to simply ignore them. If they have nothing to film they will go somewhere else.



Flumpo

3,742 posts

73 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
Elysium said:
What The Deuces said:
Mr Miata said:
The bottom line is, this has been going on for years. And in that time has any YouTube Auditor been successfully prosecuted for it?

No

Can it be solved by ignoring them?

Yes

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 29th March 12:46
Why would anyone want to ignore somebody illegally processing their personal data when such an effort has been made by society to establish the concept and legal framework of owning your data?
And once again we are back to GDPR.

As before you make a definitive statement that this activity is illegal when the truth is anything but definitive.

banghead

You are ignoring the basic reality that if you confront them to explain GDPR you are just going to hand them content.

So the best answer, either way, is to simply ignore them. If they have nothing to film they will go somewhere else.
My concern is they go somewhere else, but where?

Once every security guard in England finally gets wise, where do these auditors go to earn their £12k a month viewing fees?

They will have to go somewhere that doesn’t have laws that explicitly protect filming, but also provide entertainment for their fans.

Where does that end up, dressed as a ninja filming your kids christening or auditing your wedding? Women’s rape crisis centres, you going to visit your GP, where do they go to earn that tasty £12k a month once every industrial estate ignore them?

It’s the old wait until they come after you and it might be too late.

What The Deuces

2,780 posts

24 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
Elysium said:
What The Deuces said:
Mr Miata said:
The bottom line is, this has been going on for years. And in that time has any YouTube Auditor been successfully prosecuted for it?

No

Can it be solved by ignoring them?

Yes

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 29th March 12:46
Why would anyone want to ignore somebody illegally processing their personal data when such an effort has been made by society to establish the concept and legal framework of owning your data?
And once again we are back to GDPR.

As before you make a definitive statement that this activity is illegal when the truth is anything but definitive.

banghead

You are ignoring the basic reality that if you confront them to explain GDPR you are just going to hand them content.

So the best answer, either way, is to simply ignore them. If they have nothing to film they will go somewhere else.
I can only comment on what I’ve seen and I find it very difficult to see other than videoing the police what hits the mark for public interest. I also come at it from the example of me being filmed from the pavement on one of the private properties I work at.




That’s your opinion about ignoring them, I’d happily talk to them in a non confrontational manner to explain my subsequent actions and comments. It would be pretty boring content but maybe informative for this with less understanding of the law and their rights.

What The Deuces

2,780 posts

24 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
Elysium said:
What The Deuces said:
Mr Miata said:
The bottom line is, this has been going on for years. And in that time has any YouTube Auditor been successfully prosecuted for it?

No

Can it be solved by ignoring them?

Yes

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 29th March 12:46
Why would anyone want to ignore somebody illegally processing their personal data when such an effort has been made by society to establish the concept and legal framework of owning your data?
And once again we are back to GDPR.

As before you make a definitive statement that this activity is illegal when the truth is anything but definitive.

banghead
It’s a bit more sensible and informed than your posts on it, as I said you were clueless, you’ve googled a bit and now you think you know everything

Elysium on March 12th said:
Yes in all cases. Filming in public is a lawful activity. GDPR compliance does not prohibit it.
Which is pure bullst

Elysium

13,812 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
What The Deuces said:
Elysium said:
What The Deuces said:
Mr Miata said:
The bottom line is, this has been going on for years. And in that time has any YouTube Auditor been successfully prosecuted for it?

No

Can it be solved by ignoring them?

Yes

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 29th March 12:46
Why would anyone want to ignore somebody illegally processing their personal data when such an effort has been made by society to establish the concept and legal framework of owning your data?
And once again we are back to GDPR.

As before you make a definitive statement that this activity is illegal when the truth is anything but definitive.

banghead

You are ignoring the basic reality that if you confront them to explain GDPR you are just going to hand them content.

So the best answer, either way, is to simply ignore them. If they have nothing to film they will go somewhere else.
I can only comment on what I’ve seen and I find it very difficult to see other than videoing the police what hits the mark for public interest. I also come at it from the example of me being filmed from the pavement on one of the private properties I work at.

That’s your opinion about ignoring them, I’d happily talk to them in a non confrontational manner to explain my subsequent actions and comments. It would be pretty boring content but maybe informative for this with less understanding of the law and their rights.
If you engage with them, you will become the story and you will end up having to deal with it retrospectively. Through the GDPR complaint you are so keen to make and by complaining to the platforms that host the footage.

Despite the fact that the guidance makes it clear that auditors have a solid claim to exemption, you continue to make sweeping statements that their activities are illegal. That doesn’t seem like a position that would be ‘informative’ for others. It is confusion.

The easier option, as I have said, is to simply leave them to it.


Elysium

13,812 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
What The Deuces said:
Elysium said:
What The Deuces said:
Mr Miata said:
The bottom line is, this has been going on for years. And in that time has any YouTube Auditor been successfully prosecuted for it?

No

Can it be solved by ignoring them?

Yes

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 29th March 12:46
Why would anyone want to ignore somebody illegally processing their personal data when such an effort has been made by society to establish the concept and legal framework of owning your data?
And once again we are back to GDPR.

As before you make a definitive statement that this activity is illegal when the truth is anything but definitive.

banghead
It’s a bit more sensible and informed than your posts on it, as I said you were clueless, you’ve googled a bit and now you think you know everything

Elysium on March 12th said:
Yes in all cases. Filming in public is a lawful activity. GDPR compliance does not prohibit it.
Which is pure bullst
No it is not. Filming is lawful.

It is simply that you are required to also comply with GDPR where that is applicable.

If you fail to comply with GDPR you are not guilty of ‘filming in a public place’ because that is lawful. You are guilty of failing to comply with GDPR.

That was the context of the quote you dug up from a few weeks ago.

What The Deuces

2,780 posts

24 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
Elysium said:
What The Deuces said:
Elysium said:
What The Deuces said:
Mr Miata said:
The bottom line is, this has been going on for years. And in that time has any YouTube Auditor been successfully prosecuted for it?

No

Can it be solved by ignoring them?

Yes

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 29th March 12:46
Why would anyone want to ignore somebody illegally processing their personal data when such an effort has been made by society to establish the concept and legal framework of owning your data?
And once again we are back to GDPR.

As before you make a definitive statement that this activity is illegal when the truth is anything but definitive.

banghead
It’s a bit more sensible and informed than your posts on it, as I said you were clueless, you’ve googled a bit and now you think you know everything

Elysium on March 12th said:
Yes in all cases. Filming in public is a lawful activity. GDPR compliance does not prohibit it.
Which is pure bullst
No it is not. Filming is lawful.

It is simply that you are required to also comply with GDPR where that is applicable.

If you fail to comply with GDPR you are not guilty of ‘filming in a public place’ because that is lawful. You are guilty of failing to comply with GDPR.

That was the context of the quote you dug up from a few weeks ago.
Erm no

GDPR is a law and privacy laws may also apply



As always I depends on what you’re doing but your constant insistence that you can film what you like in public is pure rubbish and has been proven over and again.

You’re out of your depth here and I can only assume by your blind insistence that you are an ‘auditor’ in which case it’ll bite you on the arse at some point , probably sooner rather than later


By the way the GDPR law is excellent as it protects your right to film many things and sets out what you can do to do this, but it’s not everything sadly and you clearly don’t understand the full law or the scale of the exemptions either as the exemptions mainly focus on consent. You still need to comply with the rest of it.


Edited by What The Deuces on Wednesday 29th March 21:05


Edited by What The Deuces on Wednesday 29th March 21:05


Edited by What The Deuces on Wednesday 29th March 21:08

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Another new Black Belt Barrister video on citizen journalism and filming in public:

https://youtu.be/VhMUJhlWIXI

What The Deuces

2,780 posts

24 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Lord Marylebone said:
Another new Black Belt Barrister video on citizen journalism and filming in public:

https://youtu.be/VhMUJhlWIXI
Without watching it I’ve always said I consider the police to be public interest

Elysium

13,812 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
What The Deuces said:
Elysium said:
What The Deuces said:
Elysium said:
What The Deuces said:
Mr Miata said:
The bottom line is, this has been going on for years. And in that time has any YouTube Auditor been successfully prosecuted for it?

No

Can it be solved by ignoring them?

Yes

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 29th March 12:46
Why would anyone want to ignore somebody illegally processing their personal data when such an effort has been made by society to establish the concept and legal framework of owning your data?
And once again we are back to GDPR.

As before you make a definitive statement that this activity is illegal when the truth is anything but definitive.

banghead
It’s a bit more sensible and informed than your posts on it, as I said you were clueless, you’ve googled a bit and now you think you know everything

Elysium on March 12th said:
Yes in all cases. Filming in public is a lawful activity. GDPR compliance does not prohibit it.
Which is pure bullst
No it is not. Filming is lawful.

It is simply that you are required to also comply with GDPR where that is applicable.

If you fail to comply with GDPR you are not guilty of ‘filming in a public place’ because that is lawful. You are guilty of failing to comply with GDPR.

That was the context of the quote you dug up from a few weeks ago.
Erm no

GDPR is a law and privacy laws may also apply
Yes, there are other laws that must be complied with where they apply. But the act of filming in public itself is a lawful activity. We are all filmed in public on a daily basis.

What The Deuces said:
As always I depends on what you’re doing but your constant insistence that you can film what you like in public is pure rubbish and has been proven over and again.
I have not insisted on this once, let alone constantly. It depends.

What The Deuces said:
You’re out of your depth here and I can only assume by your blind insistence that you are an ‘auditor’ in which case it’ll bite you on the arse at some point , probably sooner rather than later
No, you are just confused and I don’t see how I can resolve that. I’ve explained why but you just ignored it?



Mr Miata

953 posts

50 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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What The Deuces said:
Why would anyone want to ignore somebody illegally processing their personal data when such an effort has been made by society to establish the concept and legal framework of owning your data?

Edited by What The Deuces on Wednesday 29th March 18:15
Because if you don’t go upto them, you don’t end up on their video.

They are fishing for a reaction. And if you don’t give them one, then they have no content for their YouTube video.

It really is that simple.

Elysium

13,812 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Mr Miata said:
Because if you don’t go upto them, you don’t end up on their video.

They are fishing for a reaction. And if you don’t give them one, then they have no content for their YouTube video.

It really is that simple.
yes

Raccaccoonie

2,797 posts

19 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Marty Blagborough had a hearing today for CBO.

https://www.thelawpages.com/court-hearings-lists/S...

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Is there a way to see what the sentence was as can't see anything.

Raccaccoonie

2,797 posts

19 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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A policeman who used to live in my old village.

He has already been accused of rape, which I think he did,it fell apart, as he has said stories before which were very dodgy.

My mate has just seen him doing litter picking seems he got a misconduct for harassing a female officer. Really not surprising. What is more surprising he has still got a job. With the recent met police stuff I know there must be a lot like him out there. He is a predator.

thetapeworm

11,224 posts

239 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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Drunken Auditing Yorkshire arrested on his own livestream (TikTok link, apologies) while trying to get into a police van.

https://www.tiktok.com/@audithqfan/video/722569697...

(Bit sweary)

Raccaccoonie

2,797 posts

19 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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Marti B got a CBO, funny for someone who holds police to account, now banned from police stations.

eldar

21,733 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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Raccaccoonie said:
Marti B got a CBO, funny for someone who holds police to account, now banned from police stations.
Victim of state oppression, innit.

jm8403

2,515 posts

25 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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oh well.

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Raccaccoonie said:
Marti B got a CBO, funny for someone who holds police to account, now banned from police stations.
AIUI, quite limited in scope: he can still film from a public place, e.g. from the pavement outside.

Raccaccoonie

2,797 posts

19 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Red Devil said:
AIUI, quite limited in scope: he can still film from a public place, e.g. from the pavement outside.
Well considering he got it for thinking he had the right to film, let's see.