PSCOs Anyone had a positive interaction with one?
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Drumroll said:
But again nothing special, as I have already said 10000+ work at Sellafield and an additional 40000 subcontractors.
From your comments I suggest you are talking about Hinkley C. it is a construction site thousands of people work there, it really isn't anything special. The same with working as a contractor on an MOD site. You really are no different from hundred of thousands of people.
The fact that you make it out to be something special is what gets the pith taken out of you.
I was not bragging what I was saying I would not be able to hold such things if I had a criminal history or was being investigated by my local police, these things would be flagged and would make me unsuitable.From your comments I suggest you are talking about Hinkley C. it is a construction site thousands of people work there, it really isn't anything special. The same with working as a contractor on an MOD site. You really are no different from hundred of thousands of people.
The fact that you make it out to be something special is what gets the pith taken out of you.
People have allege if I have a bad attitude to local police I must be a crim! Someone even said I have been investigated by them!
Wacky Racer said:
Very strange thread indeed. 
Back to topic, PCSO's have no powers of arrest like the regulars, but generally do a pretty decent job.
Many go on to join the regular force.
As I posted earlier in the thread, my niece is in the process of doing that now. I am very proud of her, but also a little apprehensive. If ever she pulls me over though, I may not be so proud Back to topic, PCSO's have no powers of arrest like the regulars, but generally do a pretty decent job.
Many go on to join the regular force.
surveyor_101 said:
ChevronB19 said:
Ditto. Also there is no such thing as ‘nuclear’ clearance.
Again sadly your wrong... There a NNC for staff who work new nuclear power plants.....Its a nuclear regulator agreement that NNB have they carry out a DBS and then their own internal referencing process generally employment references for the last 5 years (database checks) you then attend an induction which includes drugs and alcohol testing with a class on nuclear history and safety, then you take an exam and if you pass you get a badge for 3 years.In terms of bragging, you are allowed to say you have a SC Clearance or NNC.
The SC I don't discuss how who issued it, or what it was for. Its on my CV and get approach for roles that need both a NNC or SC.
I have at no point said what projects they were used for, I know people with DV who say they have it but not what its for again, a lot so called eggsperts on here who don't know what they are talking about.
When you sign the official secrets I was never told don't ever tell a living soul you held a clearance for a role will you! Don't discuss the project or the details that's all!
Indeed I have sent a cv for an MOD role with SC Clearance worked on Project ****** blah blah, it was 80m over 4 projects for DIO etc etc.. Didn't come back and say naughty naughty can't say all that, how can they asses my ability for the role.
Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 20th March 09:46
As for discussing roles - you don't. When applying for roles you'll see it says must be prepared to pass (insert security clearance) then you discuss at interview.
What you do or boast about, isn't good practice, and is generally discouraged.
https://www.ctp.org.uk/disclosing-security-clearan...
So again NNB carrying out their own DBS check isn't a security clearance, it's £25 to make sure you're basically a decent person, not been in serious trouble. Nor is passing a test...you're now talking about the CSCS card - the constructors competence card which everyone needs to be on a construction site!
Requirements for Hinkley
http://www.a2opeople.co.uk/blogitem/the-hinkley-po...
https://www.morson.com/blog/2017/09/what-clearance...
ED209 said:
Every single person in the country has a power of arrest.
Citizens Arrest- Yes and No, not a Wim, has to be for an indicatable offence for start, as I understand it PSCOs are not routinely allowed to arrest instead they are supposed to detain people (30 mins max) if they meet certain criteria and call for a constable to make the arrest.When I did SIA Training it was delivered by a former inspector and his advice CA arrest was a very very risky as opens you up to all sorts of legal ramifications and his advice was to not unless current police officer.
surveyor_101 said:
I was not bragging what I was saying I would not be able to hold such things if I had a criminal history or was being investigated by my local police, these things would be flagged and would make me unsuitable.
People have allege if I have a bad attitude to local police I must be a crim! Someone even said I have been investigated by them!
Again not strictly true, Certainly at Hinkley C there are people who are working there who have a "criminal record" it is not a blanket ban (rehabilitation of offenders act 1974) I know this to be fact because the company I used to work for has a major presence on site.People have allege if I have a bad attitude to local police I must be a crim! Someone even said I have been investigated by them!
Taken from the BPSS site: A person may have adverse findings on the DBS check element of the BPSS but if the convictions aren’t relevant to the position being sought then the local managers can take a view on employing them.
An example of this may be someone who was convicted and imprisoned for dangerous driving who is applying for a job as a clerk in a government department. The conviction isn’t directly relevant to the role sought.
There is an age old saying "If you find yourself in a hole stop digging" maybe you could think about that before responding.
Edited by Drumroll on Monday 20th March 10:45
Edited by Drumroll on Monday 20th March 10:46
Edited by Drumroll on Monday 20th March 10:47
Edited by Drumroll on Monday 20th March 10:48
[quote=Drumroll]
Again not strictly true, Certainly at Hinkley C there are people who are working there who have a "criminal record" it is not a blanket ban (rehabilitation of offenders act 1974) I know this to be fact because the company I used to work for has a major presence on site.
Taken from the BPSS site: A person may have adverse findings on the DBS check element of the BPSS but if the convictions aren’t relevant to the position being sought then the local managers can take a view on employing them.
An example of this may be someone who was convicted and imprisoned for dangerous driving who is applying for a job as a clerk in a government department. The conviction isn’t directly relevant to the role sought.
There is an age old saying "If you find yourself in a hole stop digging" maybe you could think about that before responding.
[/quote=Drumroll]
They only accept a clean DBS so it would need to be over 6 years old to get filtered and subject to ROA and been filtered basically.
MOD SC is less flexible, so I am not digging!
Again not strictly true, Certainly at Hinkley C there are people who are working there who have a "criminal record" it is not a blanket ban (rehabilitation of offenders act 1974) I know this to be fact because the company I used to work for has a major presence on site.
Taken from the BPSS site: A person may have adverse findings on the DBS check element of the BPSS but if the convictions aren’t relevant to the position being sought then the local managers can take a view on employing them.
An example of this may be someone who was convicted and imprisoned for dangerous driving who is applying for a job as a clerk in a government department. The conviction isn’t directly relevant to the role sought.
There is an age old saying "If you find yourself in a hole stop digging" maybe you could think about that before responding.
Edited by Drumroll on Monday 20th March 10:45
[/quote=Drumroll]
They only accept a clean DBS so it would need to be over 6 years old to get filtered and subject to ROA and been filtered basically.
MOD SC is less flexible, so I am not digging!
Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 20th March 11:35
Byker28i said:
BPSS, CTC, SC, DV - thats it.
As for discussing roles - you don't. When applying for roles you'll see it says must be prepared to pass (insert security clearance) then you discuss at interview.
What you do or boast about, isn't good practice, and is generally discouraged.
https://www.ctp.org.uk/disclosing-security-clearan...
So again NNB carrying out their own DBS check isn't a security clearance, it's £25 to make sure you're basically a decent person, not been in serious trouble. Nor is passing a test...you're now talking about the CSCS card - the constructors competence card which everyone needs to be on a construction site!
Requirements for Hinkley
http://www.a2opeople.co.uk/blogitem/the-hinkley-po...
https://www.morson.com/blog/2017/09/what-clearance...
No I didn't mention CSCS, that's a health and safety test, they do require a current pass in appropriate category to your job, thats before you take the induction exam.As for discussing roles - you don't. When applying for roles you'll see it says must be prepared to pass (insert security clearance) then you discuss at interview.
What you do or boast about, isn't good practice, and is generally discouraged.
https://www.ctp.org.uk/disclosing-security-clearan...
So again NNB carrying out their own DBS check isn't a security clearance, it's £25 to make sure you're basically a decent person, not been in serious trouble. Nor is passing a test...you're now talking about the CSCS card - the constructors competence card which everyone needs to be on a construction site!
Requirements for Hinkley
http://www.a2opeople.co.uk/blogitem/the-hinkley-po...
https://www.morson.com/blog/2017/09/what-clearance...
Hinkley and Sizewell, they don't put out all the data its a hybrid of BPSS/SC.
That's an aside from their on induction exam you can also be asked have a CCNSG as well for some roles if you were site based and I was for a time.
the CTP site you have listed relates to EX SERVICE PERSONEL not civilian contractors but they may well be the principles that follow forward.
martinbiz said:
Wacky Racer said:
Very strange thread indeed.
Back to topic, PCSO's have no powers of arrest like the regulars, but generally do a pretty decent job.
Many go on to join the regular force.
Every thread started by the OP (and there are many of them) is strangeBack to topic, PCSO's have no powers of arrest like the regulars, but generally do a pretty decent job.
Many go on to join the regular force.
Byker28i said:
So not 'on the job' then implying you were a police officer. You know impersonation is an offence right?
Hinkley require you to have a CSCS card before being allowed on site
or when digging holes 
Yes I am not claiming to be a current police officer, not sure why you flip and flop so much you have never mentioned that before.Hinkley require you to have a CSCS card before being allowed on site
or when digging holes CSCS was covered above you said there is no induction process you need CSCS, I said you need that to carry out induction and exam and they are separate, this is becoming tedious.
Fun fact you don't need a card just a current pass with CITB, I have one in appropriate level but some people in my office had started doing Operatives tests which is much easier than Managers and professionals.
surveyor_101 said:
Yes I am not claiming to be a current police officer, not sure why you flip and flop so much you have never mentioned that before.
No but are you are claiming to be one previously as well as also being in the MOD.As regards the police job when were you a policeman ,what rank did you finish up at ?
Byker28i said:
Requirements for Hinkley
http://www.a2opeople.co.uk/blogitem/the-hinkley-po...
https://www.morson.com/blog/2017/09/what-clearance...
There’s more hoops than that to jump through to work on the railways…http://www.a2opeople.co.uk/blogitem/the-hinkley-po...
https://www.morson.com/blog/2017/09/what-clearance...
I’ve worked airside at airports, in prisons, built a headquarters for MI6, worked in nuclear, and done some things I was asked not to talk about, all of them required security vetting. I’ve been in control of a team that has shut down Terminal One at Manchester Airport twice, one of those also triggered an evacuation. So what? Doesn’t entitle me to look down on PCSOs.
surveyor_101 said:
When you sign the official secrets I was never told don't ever tell a living soul you held a clearance for a role will you! Don't discuss the project or the details that's all!
You don't need to sign the official secrets act, and it doesn't intersect with clearance.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff