PSCOs Anyone had a positive interaction with one?
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I must be "on job" as well then. I also had clearances to work on MOD sites and go into Selafield. I also have had to coordinate with the emergency services on highways project. Never been a bronze commander though. (Not through work at least)
But I don't really see why these experiences have any relevance to what has been posted.
Bronze commander is really only the person on the ground who is in a supervisory role. I personally never experienced any use of Bronze, Silver or Gold in any highways project I was involved in.
But I don't really see why these experiences have any relevance to what has been posted.
Bronze commander is really only the person on the ground who is in a supervisory role. I personally never experienced any use of Bronze, Silver or Gold in any highways project I was involved in.
I had a rather annoying encounter with one as I was driving home from work one day when he basically accused me of urinating on the gates of the school near where I live.
There's a school on the housing estate where I live that has two raised zebra crossings by chicanes outside it. I passed a guy who was getting into a grey Passat at the roadside and then stopped at the chicanes to give way to a van coming the other way.
As I was waiting, the PCSO was talking to someone in a Corsa at the roadside. As I set off, the Corsa driver drove away and the PCSO put his hand up to stop me. He said the other driver had told him she'd seen someone get out of a dark coloured car and urinate against the fence outside the school. I assumed at first he was asking me if I'd seen the same thing. I said I'd seen someone getting into a grey Passat near the school but I hadn't seen him urinating.
The PCSO then started asking me why I'd stopped and saying I had no reason to. I explained I'd stopped at the chicanes for the van going the other way, but he just kept talking over me insisting I had no reason to stop. When he'd obviously deliberately succeeded in getting me a bit wound up, he insinuated that my agitation was a sign of guilt. He then ignored me as I pointed out the guy with the grey Passat driving past us. The road only accesses the housing estate and the school, so most of the cars on it I recognise and I hadn't seen the Passat or its driver before, so possibly the guy was up to no good. Also, the car I was driving was bright blue, not dark.
So my encounter with a PCSO, someone who was supposed to be keeping my neighbourhood a safe place for me to live, was him flexing his ego to make a stupid accusation against me and ignoring someone who possibly was a criminal staking out where I live. He was later promoted to being a proper police officer.
There's a school on the housing estate where I live that has two raised zebra crossings by chicanes outside it. I passed a guy who was getting into a grey Passat at the roadside and then stopped at the chicanes to give way to a van coming the other way.
As I was waiting, the PCSO was talking to someone in a Corsa at the roadside. As I set off, the Corsa driver drove away and the PCSO put his hand up to stop me. He said the other driver had told him she'd seen someone get out of a dark coloured car and urinate against the fence outside the school. I assumed at first he was asking me if I'd seen the same thing. I said I'd seen someone getting into a grey Passat near the school but I hadn't seen him urinating.
The PCSO then started asking me why I'd stopped and saying I had no reason to. I explained I'd stopped at the chicanes for the van going the other way, but he just kept talking over me insisting I had no reason to stop. When he'd obviously deliberately succeeded in getting me a bit wound up, he insinuated that my agitation was a sign of guilt. He then ignored me as I pointed out the guy with the grey Passat driving past us. The road only accesses the housing estate and the school, so most of the cars on it I recognise and I hadn't seen the Passat or its driver before, so possibly the guy was up to no good. Also, the car I was driving was bright blue, not dark.
So my encounter with a PCSO, someone who was supposed to be keeping my neighbourhood a safe place for me to live, was him flexing his ego to make a stupid accusation against me and ignoring someone who possibly was a criminal staking out where I live. He was later promoted to being a proper police officer.
Drumroll said:
I must be "on job" as well then. I also had clearances to work on MOD sites and go into Selafield. I also have had to coordinate with the emergency services on highways project. Never been a bronze commander though. (Not through work at least)
But I don't really see why these experiences have any relevance to what has been posted.
Bronze commander is really only the person on the ground who is in a supervisory role. I personally never experienced any use of Bronze, Silver or Gold in any highways project I was involved in.
Did you not read my post?But I don't really see why these experiences have any relevance to what has been posted.
Bronze commander is really only the person on the ground who is in a supervisory role. I personally never experienced any use of Bronze, Silver or Gold in any highways project I was involved in.
In my area the HE/NH use a contractor to manage all Maintenance and Reponses from their depots. So the staff in depots (aside from their office staff & the traffic officers office) all operatives vehicles (excluding gritters) are the contractors branded as HE, they run the service delivery from gritting, maintenance to response to incidents.
When the bridge over avonmouth was taken down by a lorry a few weeks ago it was the same people who deployed to sort it. They even have ford rangers that are marked up similar to HETOs.
Blakewater said:
I had a rather annoying encounter with one as I was driving home from work one day when he basically accused me of urinating on the gates of the school near where I live.
There's a school on the housing estate where I live that has two raised zebra crossings by chicanes outside it. I passed a guy who was getting into a grey Passat at the roadside and then stopped at the chicanes to give way to a van coming the other way.
As I was waiting, the PCSO was talking to someone in a Corsa at the roadside. As I set off, the Corsa driver drove away and the PCSO put his hand up to stop me. He said the other driver had told him she'd seen someone get out of a dark coloured car and urinate against the fence outside the school. I assumed at first he was asking me if I'd seen the same thing. I said I'd seen someone getting into a grey Passat near the school but I hadn't seen him urinating.
The PCSO then started asking me why I'd stopped and saying I had no reason to. I explained I'd stopped at the chicanes for the van going the other way, but he just kept talking over me insisting I had no reason to stop. When he'd obviously deliberately succeeded in getting me a bit wound up, he insinuated that my agitation was a sign of guilt. He then ignored me as I pointed out the guy with the grey Passat driving past us. The road only accesses the housing estate and the school, so most of the cars on it I recognise and I hadn't seen the Passat or its driver before, so possibly the guy was up to no good. Also, the car I was driving was bright blue, not dark.
So my encounter with a PCSO, someone who was supposed to be keeping my neighbourhood a safe place for me to live, was him flexing his ego to make a stupid accusation against me and ignoring someone who possibly was a criminal staking out where I live. He was later promoted to being a proper police officer.
Finally someone on topic thank you! Sadly PH has become a very dark place, the majority of people on here wish to argue, mock, challenge someone's advice/story and it strikes me there is a lot of bullying that goes on.There's a school on the housing estate where I live that has two raised zebra crossings by chicanes outside it. I passed a guy who was getting into a grey Passat at the roadside and then stopped at the chicanes to give way to a van coming the other way.
As I was waiting, the PCSO was talking to someone in a Corsa at the roadside. As I set off, the Corsa driver drove away and the PCSO put his hand up to stop me. He said the other driver had told him she'd seen someone get out of a dark coloured car and urinate against the fence outside the school. I assumed at first he was asking me if I'd seen the same thing. I said I'd seen someone getting into a grey Passat near the school but I hadn't seen him urinating.
The PCSO then started asking me why I'd stopped and saying I had no reason to. I explained I'd stopped at the chicanes for the van going the other way, but he just kept talking over me insisting I had no reason to stop. When he'd obviously deliberately succeeded in getting me a bit wound up, he insinuated that my agitation was a sign of guilt. He then ignored me as I pointed out the guy with the grey Passat driving past us. The road only accesses the housing estate and the school, so most of the cars on it I recognise and I hadn't seen the Passat or its driver before, so possibly the guy was up to no good. Also, the car I was driving was bright blue, not dark.
So my encounter with a PCSO, someone who was supposed to be keeping my neighbourhood a safe place for me to live, was him flexing his ego to make a stupid accusation against me and ignoring someone who possibly was a criminal staking out where I live. He was later promoted to being a proper police officer.
Your story echo's with me and my experience of PCSOs, I think some get in and want to be constable and then try and act like one and then start trying to overstep their remit, which is were it goes south. For walking and engaging in low level crim find, I was lumped with with problem neighbour even though it took 5-6 police officers to arrest the BF when they came like 6 times.
I have had one threaten to arrest me over a neighbour dispute and when I challenged him he said well I will send my neighbourhood beat PC, which after 3 weeks of waiting I called him asked why I still had my liberty, to which he said hadn't been told by the PCSO to follow up my case at all (Case closed words of advice etc), this kind of crap is why then they don't get respect of the public!
This was because I told a neighbour off for parking sideways in my space and a ladies space (I had been on holiday for week) and driving like an idiot around the development. I had asked him nicely to move the car and guy got all what you going to do about it had threaten me, slammed the door and called the police, very strange hardman, his GF was crying in fear of me and tried to say I pointed my figure at the guy, which the PCSO classed as threatening behaviour, he also said I am too big to go knocking on peoples doors (6ft4 built) and I don't let a lot of light in a door way when stood in it! Apparently PSCOs do creative writing as part of their basic training, funny thing was he was a big guy like me lol
Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 20th March 08:33
surveyor_101 said:
I have Current SC and Nuclear Clearance which if I had any convictions I wouldn't be able to hold. As I have worked on MOD projects, Highways England and Border Force.
Weird because people with security clearances, don't brag about them. It's one of the things one is told not to do...surveyor_101 said:
Drumroll said:
I must be "on job" as well then. I also had clearances to work on MOD sites and go into Selafield. I also have had to coordinate with the emergency services on highways project. Never been a bronze commander though. (Not through work at least)
But I don't really see why these experiences have any relevance to what has been posted.
Bronze commander is really only the person on the ground who is in a supervisory role. I personally never experienced any use of Bronze, Silver or Gold in any highways project I was involved in.
Did you not read my post?But I don't really see why these experiences have any relevance to what has been posted.
Bronze commander is really only the person on the ground who is in a supervisory role. I personally never experienced any use of Bronze, Silver or Gold in any highways project I was involved in.
In my area the HE/NH use a contractor to manage all Maintenance and Reponses from their depots. So the staff in depots (aside from their office staff & the traffic officers office) all operatives vehicles (excluding gritters) are the contractors branded as HE, they run the service delivery from gritting, maintenance to response to incidents.
When the bridge over avonmouth was taken down by a lorry a few weeks ago it was the same people who deployed to sort it. They even have ford rangers that are marked up similar to HETOs.
All I have done is pointed out they don't make you special. There are thousands of people with security clearance (10000+ at Sellafield alone)
Bronze commander really is nothing special to be honest, almost anybody can be designated to be one.
You get the piffle taken out of you because you make yourself out to be something your not.
That I hope answers the Did you not read my post bit. The rest of it doesn't really make sense and it certainly doesn't read like somebody who has anything more then a working relationship with the police. Something that hundreds of us do (did) on a regular basis. But don't come on forums claiming to be "job"
Byker28i said:
surveyor_101 said:
I have Current SC and Nuclear Clearance which if I had any convictions I wouldn't be able to hold. As I have worked on MOD projects, Highways England and Border Force.
Weird because people with security clearances, don't brag about them. It's one of the things one is told not to do...ChevronB19 said:
Byker28i said:
surveyor_101 said:
I have Current SC and Nuclear Clearance which if I had any convictions I wouldn't be able to hold. As I have worked on MOD projects, Highways England and Border Force.
Weird because people with security clearances, don't brag about them. It's one of the things one is told not to do...
ChevronB19 said:
Ditto. Also there is no such thing as ‘nuclear’ clearance.
Again sadly your wrong... There a NNC for staff who work new nuclear power plants.....Its a nuclear regulator agreement that NNB have they carry out a DBS and then their own internal referencing process generally employment references for the last 5 years (database checks) you then attend an induction which includes drugs and alcohol testing with a class on nuclear history and safety, then you take an exam and if you pass you get a badge for 3 years.In terms of bragging, you are allowed to say you have a SC Clearance or NNC.
The SC I don't discuss how who issued it, or what it was for. Its on my CV and get approach for roles that need both a NNC or SC.
I have at no point said what projects they were used for, I know people with DV who say they have it but not what its for again, a lot so called eggsperts on here who don't know what they are talking about.
When you sign the official secrets I was never told don't ever tell a living soul you held a clearance for a role will you! Don't discuss the project or the details that's all!
Indeed I have sent a cv for an MOD role with SC Clearance worked on Project ****** blah blah, it was 80m over 4 projects for DIO etc etc.. Didn't come back and say naughty naughty can't say all that, how can they asses my ability for the role.
Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 20th March 09:46
surveyor_101 said:
ChevronB19 said:
Ditto. Also there is no such thing as ‘nuclear’ clearance.
Again sadly your wrong... There a NNC for staff who work new nuclear power plants.....Its a nuclear regulator agreement that NNB have they carry out a DBS and then their own internal referencing process generally employment references for the last 5 years (database checks) you then attend an induction which includes drugs and alcohol testing with a class on nuclear history and safety, then you take an exam and if you pass you get a badge for 3 years.In terms of bragging, you are allowed to say you have a SC Clearance or NNC.
The SC I don't discuss how who issued it, or what it was for. Its on my CV and get approach for roles that need both a NNC or SC.
I have at no point said what projects they were used for, I know people with DV who say they have it but not what its for again, a lot so called eggsperts on here who don't know what they are talking about.
When you sign the official secrets I was never told don't ever tell a living soul you held a clearance for a role will you! Don't discuss the project or the details that's all!
Indeed I have sent a cv for an MOD role with SC Clearance worked on Project ****** blah blah, it was 80m over 4 projects for DIO etc etc.. Didn't come back and say naughty naughty can't say all that, how can they asses my ability for the role.
From your comments I suggest you are talking about Hinkley C. it is a construction site thousands of people work there, it really isn't anything special. The same with working as a contractor on an MOD site. You really are no different from hundred of thousands of people.
The fact that you make it out to be something special is what gets the pith taken out of you.
Byker28i said:
surveyor_101 said:
I have Current SC and Nuclear Clearance which if I had any convictions I wouldn't be able to hold. As I have worked on MOD projects, Highways England and Border Force.
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