Police run over calf - reasonable?

[Richard-D]

The Gauge said:

Richard-D said:

The Gauge said:

Richard-D said:

Just heard on the radio that the officer was about to return to work. I don't think that he made the best decision in ramming it with a car but it's nuts that he's been unable to work for all this time. I'm not surprised we're short of police officers if that's the norm.

You've only got to read some of the replies in this thread to see how people want blood, and the officer sacked, which is why they have to investigate it.

I think it absolutely needed investigating and my personal opinion is that he made an error of judgement in the heat of the moment. Paying a police officer to be sat on their arse because they handled a situation poorly (but in no way dishonestly) seems nuts to me though.

If we stopped everything because people ranted on the internet I don't think it would be possible to even exist

Well it was officially deemed he acted lawfully and correctly, so no error of judgment.

As for allowing him to sit on his arse - imagine if the outcome was that he had driven dangerously yet he had been allowed to carry on driving police cars responding to emergencies whilst the investigation took place, had he had an accident with someone injured then there would be public outcry demanding to know why he was allowed to carry on driving during the investigation into him!!!

So it was deemed he'd acted lawfully and he's been paid to sit on his arse instead of enforcing the law for 6 months. And you think this is all fine and an efficient use of resources?

There's a public outcry for everything if you look hard enough. At some point you need to apply a pragmatic approach though instead of pissing public money up against the wall.

Edited by Richard-D on Friday 29th November 22:24

[Nibbles_bits]

He might have been "sat on his arse", but there's more to policing than just 'enforcing the law'.

File building, fleet maintenance, performance management, crime reports, missing person reports, statement taking, case management to name a few things an Officer can do whilst "sat on his arse".

[Greendubber]

Richard-D said:

The Gauge said:

Richard-D said:

The Gauge said:

Richard-D said:

Just heard on the radio that the officer was about to return to work. I don't think that he made the best decision in ramming it with a car but it's nuts that he's been unable to work for all this time. I'm not surprised we're short of police officers if that's the norm.

You've only got to read some of the replies in this thread to see how people want blood, and the officer sacked, which is why they have to investigate it.

I think it absolutely needed investigating and my personal opinion is that he made an error of judgement in the heat of the moment. Paying a police officer to be sat on their arse because they handled a situation poorly (but in no way dishonestly) seems nuts to me though.

If we stopped everything because people ranted on the internet I don't think it would be possible to even exist

Well it was officially deemed he acted lawfully and correctly, so no error of judgment.

As for allowing him to sit on his arse - imagine if the outcome was that he had driven dangerously yet he had been allowed to carry on driving police cars responding to emergencies whilst the investigation took place, had he had an accident with someone injured then there would be public outcry demanding to know why he was allowed to carry on driving during the investigation into him!!!

So it was deemed he'd acted lawfully and he's been paid to sit on his arse instead of enforcing the law for 6 months. And you think this is all fine and an efficient use of resources?

There's a public outcry for everything if you look hard enough. At some point you need to apply a pragmatic approach though instead of pissing public money up against the wall.

Edited by Richard-D on Friday 29th November 22:24

He won't have been 'sat on his arse' at all.

[Caddyshack]

Sebring440 said:

loskie said:

These calves did the gobbling!!!

Your should seek help.

Seriously, not being sarcastic or "PH", you should seek help.

Why does the person telling the story need help?

If I tell you about a murder or rape, do I need help?

[loskie]

That's what I failed to understand and I felt quite insulted ! Let's give him/her/them the benefit of the doubt and ask them to re read it with their specs on.

[Caddyshack]

loskie said:

That's what I failed to understand and I felt quite insulted ! Let's give him/her/them the benefit of the doubt and ask them to re read it with their specs on.

Agreed. If not there will be a lot of news readers on TV needing help.

[Hugo Stiglitz v2]

Nibbles_bits said:

He might have been "sat on his arse", but there's more to policing than just 'enforcing the law'.

File building, fleet maintenance, performance management, crime reports, missing person reports, statement taking, case management to name a few things an Officer can do whilst "sat on his arse".

If you are injured and your faced with sat at home ensuring you're well being and recovery are optimum or sat in the office doing every officers file remedial work, phone calls, putting the wheel back on at the final minute, etc etc I know what I would chose.

[the tribester]

Somewhatfoolish said:

Caddyshack said:

I expect the calf has been eaten by now

Nah, it's alive in the farm. But will probably become one of these celebrity cows in an animal welfare thingy.

It's still skipping about the farm in the same way as the goldfish is back in the bowl or the hamster in back in it's cage, all be it, a slightly different colour.

[Nibbles_bits]

Hugo Stiglitz v2 said:

Nibbles_bits said:

He might have been "sat on his arse", but there's more to policing than just 'enforcing the law'.

File building, fleet maintenance, performance management, crime reports, missing person reports, statement taking, case management to name a few things an Officer can do whilst "sat on his arse".

If you are injured and your faced with sat at home ensuring you're well being and recovery are optimum or sat in the office doing every officers file remedial work, phone calls, putting the wheel back on at the final minute, etc etc I know what I would chose.

He wasn't injured though. He might have taken time off sick.

If he was suspended (bearing in mind you are still expectedto conduct yourself as if you are on duty), I'd imagine sitting at home wondering if you are going to face criminal charges and/misconduct isn't much fun!

[croyde]

The only reason that this became an issue is social bloody media and idiots filming everything.

If they had all dropped their sodding devices, they could have stepped in and helped corral the creature instead of wasting everyone's time being morally outraged.

This world is really going to hell in a handcart. I can't believe that this has been dug up again, it's all that was being talked about on LBC yesterday.

FFS!!

[The Gauge]

Richard-D said:

The Gauge said:

Richard-D said:

The Gauge said:

Richard-D said:

Just heard on the radio that the officer was about to return to work. I don't think that he made the best decision in ramming it with a car but it's nuts that he's been unable to work for all this time. I'm not surprised we're short of police officers if that's the norm.

You've only got to read some of the replies in this thread to see how people want blood, and the officer sacked, which is why they have to investigate it.

I think it absolutely needed investigating and my personal opinion is that he made an error of judgement in the heat of the moment. Paying a police officer to be sat on their arse because they handled a situation poorly (but in no way dishonestly) seems nuts to me though.

If we stopped everything because people ranted on the internet I don't think it would be possible to even exist

Well it was officially deemed he acted lawfully and correctly, so no error of judgment.

As for allowing him to sit on his arse - imagine if the outcome was that he had driven dangerously yet he had been allowed to carry on driving police cars responding to emergencies whilst the investigation took place, had he had an accident with someone injured then there would be public outcry demanding to know why he was allowed to carry on driving during the investigation into him!!!

So it was deemed he'd acted lawfully and he's been paid to sit on his arse instead of enforcing the law for 6 months. And you think this is all fine and an efficient use of resources?

There's a public outcry for everything if you look hard enough. At some point you need to apply a pragmatic approach though instead of pissing public money up against the wall.

Yes I think it’s perfectly fine as unlike you I can see the reasons why his force had to do this whereas you can only concentrate on him not being on frontline duty. Try broadening your mind and think of the ‘what if’s’.

There’s normally historical reasons why the police do things with regards to regulations and disciplinary matters.