Double white lines - is it ever OK to cross them?
Discussion
Vipers said:
streaky said:
10 mph is an arbitrary limit.
Solid white lines used to be applied where there was an overtaking hazard (albeit, now seemingly sometimes used simply to prevent overtaking as a means to slowing traffic and causing inconvenience to the motorist).
I am sure all of us can easily think of roads where crossing a solid white line for the brief time necessary to overtake a cyclist travelling at 16mph is not a hazardous manoeuvre.
However, an offence is committed by so doing. Whether or not you are booked by an observing police officer is as likely to depend on which side of the bed they got out that morning, as on any other criterion.
Streaky
As I was passing said cyclist your woship, he suddenly gunned it, would that get you off the hook?Solid white lines used to be applied where there was an overtaking hazard (albeit, now seemingly sometimes used simply to prevent overtaking as a means to slowing traffic and causing inconvenience to the motorist).
I am sure all of us can easily think of roads where crossing a solid white line for the brief time necessary to overtake a cyclist travelling at 16mph is not a hazardous manoeuvre.
However, an offence is committed by so doing. Whether or not you are booked by an observing police officer is as likely to depend on which side of the bed they got out that morning, as on any other criterion.
Streaky
SS2. said:
Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 said:
26. Double white lines
(a) to enable the vehicle to enter, from the side of the road on which it is proceeding, land or premises adjacent to the length of road on which the line is placed, or another road joining that road;
How is land defined here?(a) to enable the vehicle to enter, from the side of the road on which it is proceeding, land or premises adjacent to the length of road on which the line is placed, or another road joining that road;
Our road is currently undergoing a speed limit reduction, and double white lines are also proposed. Opposite our houses there is a layby parking area that the residents use to park their vehicle. It is literally a piece of dirt wide enough for a vehicle, then fenced. A concern has been raised over the legality of crossing the road in order to park. The way I read it, it is permitted, as you are crossing the line to enter land that is situated off the carriageway. There is no definition or dimensional requirement stipulated, and as always nothing thrown up on an internet search.
Thoughts?
Dizeee said:
SS2. said:
Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 said:
26. Double white lines
(a) to enable the vehicle to enter, from the side of the road on which it is proceeding, land or premises adjacent to the length of road on which the line is placed, or another road joining that road;
How is land defined here?(a) to enable the vehicle to enter, from the side of the road on which it is proceeding, land or premises adjacent to the length of road on which the line is placed, or another road joining that road;
Our road is currently undergoing a speed limit reduction, and double white lines are also proposed. Opposite our houses there is a layby parking area that the residents use to park their vehicle. It is literally a piece of dirt wide enough for a vehicle, then fenced. A concern has been raised over the legality of crossing the road in order to park. The way I read it, it is permitted, as you are crossing the line to enter land that is situated off the carriageway. There is no definition or dimensional requirement stipulated, and as always nothing thrown up on an internet search.
Thoughts?
streaky said:
"Double white lines" do not mean 'do not cross'.
A solid white line on the side nearest the driver means 'do not cross'.
Streaky
If it's pedantry hour, then they mean keep the line to the offside of the offside part of the vehicle. Do not cross would A solid white line on the side nearest the driver means 'do not cross'.
Streaky
a) allow you to be fully offside
b) mean that those abysmal lines in the Blackwall tunnel are legal, which they aren't.
7db said:
streaky said:
"Double white lines" do not mean 'do not cross'.
A solid white line on the side nearest the driver means 'do not cross'.
Streaky
If it's pedantry hour, then they mean keep the line to the offside of the offside part of the vehicle. Do not cross would A solid white line on the side nearest the driver means 'do not cross'.
Streaky
a) allow you to be fully offside
b) mean that those abysmal lines in the Blackwall tunnel are legal, which they aren't.
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