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Trackdayguy

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366 posts

71 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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A reliable source insider tell's me that Caterham are presently working on an electric 7. Not sure how far advanced this is, but I'm told it's in engineering.

Watch this space.

Tazio77

224 posts

262 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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I don't care...….

Stridey

342 posts

107 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Great!
I’d be very interested to see one, in terms of range, weight, handling, performance and price.
Hope they come up with something special.

DCL

1,216 posts

179 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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I think the Caterham chassis lends itself quite well to electric conversion, and the few who have already done it have ended up with performance that makes petrol look like a peddle car.

Trackdayguy

Original Poster:

366 posts

71 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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I agree it sounds real exciting. I’m guess weight is going to be the challenge.

Helluvaname

363 posts

207 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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On the contrary, I think it will sound really boring!

rotorwings

208 posts

125 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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The great thing about a Caterham is that range is not particularly important for most people. With their light weight, 150 or 200 miles should not be that hard to configure (more than enough for most blats).
If they did this, and did it right, they would have 'banks' of batteries that could be purchased to achieve the customers desired weight or range and they would be locatable in different spots to achieve various weight distributions.

It's a pity they 'don't to technology' because there is plenty of scope for really cool innovation. wink
...That's the problem with restrictive marketing slogans: you paint yourself into a corner unnecessarily. 'We do RAW' (for example) would have provided the same positive message, while allowing for all future technological direction change without having to back-track on a previous message.


DCL

1,216 posts

179 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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ash73 said:
Why does anyone want an electric Seven? They cost buttons to fill up with petrol and keeping the revs in the sweet spot is half the fun (or it was in a K).

How long until someone has a BIG accident on a country lane in a silent eSeven because nobody heard them coming?
Don't worry, the red flag should warn everyone,

Seriously though, the internal combustion engine is really an awful technology that has be made bearable by some good engineering. But I suspect anyone who has driven a modern electric car would struggle to agree with your point of view.

Tazio77

224 posts

262 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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I still do not care....petroleum products only for me, loads of NOISE, and the joy of tinkering....

rotorwings

208 posts

125 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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DCL said:
ash73 said:
Why does anyone want an electric Seven? They cost buttons to fill up with petrol and keeping the revs in the sweet spot is half the fun (or it was in a K).

How long until someone has a BIG accident on a country lane in a silent eSeven because nobody heard them coming?
Don't worry, the red flag should warn everyone,

Seriously though, the internal combustion engine is really an awful technology that has be made bearable by some good engineering. But I suspect anyone who has driven a modern electric car would struggle to agree with your point of view.
Quite.

The only thing between electric and total domination of 2/4 wheel transport are charging times and range (weight), with charging times being by far the most significant. Both these problems are being improved quickly. The internal combustion engine is destined to become a curious novelty, just as the steam engine is now.


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Tazio77 said:
I still do not care....petroleum products only for me, loads of NOISE, and the joy of tinkering....
If you don't care, keep quiet. yes

HustleRussell

24,689 posts

160 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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I’d be concerned if Caterham weren’t working on an e7.

It’s not for me but it is important in a world where all the other manufacturers are pledging to stop building ICE propelled cars within the next 10 years or so.

Trackdayguy

Original Poster:

366 posts

71 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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rotorwings said:
The great thing about a Caterham is that range is not particularly important for most people. With their light weight, 150 or 200 miles should not be that hard to configure (more than enough for most blats).
If they did this, and did it right, they would have 'banks' of batteries that could be purchased to achieve the customers desired weight or range and they would be locatable in different spots to achieve various weight distributions.

It's a pity they 'don't to technology' because there is plenty of scope for really cool innovation. wink
...That's the problem with restrictive marketing slogans: you paint yourself into a corner unnecessarily. 'We do RAW' (for example) would have provided the same positive message, while allowing for all future technological direction change without having to back-track on a previous message.
YES...Put much better than I could have said. When I tried the same thing I got shot down. "You know it makes sense Rodney"

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Didnt Westfield develop an electric car several years ago?

HustleRussell

24,689 posts

160 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Helluvaname said:
On the contrary, I think it will sound really boring!
Surely not more boring than a Duratec hehe

I can hear it now:

"This car makes an awful whining nose"

"Yes that's the differential sir, TADT"

Tazio77

224 posts

262 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Eezeh - I will make as much noise as I like....just like my Redtop and BDR....

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Interesting given that McDonald, in not so far off times, was citing the advent of EVs and autonomous cars as a major opportunity for them.

I took that to mean that there’d still be many who would want the challenge and involvement that a 7 offers as ‘proper’ car makers give in to progress and end up with a range of autonomous EVs, just like everyone else’s.

Maybe he didn’t; perhaps there’s also an autonomous 7 on the cards. laugh

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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rotorwings said:
DCL said:
ash73 said:
Why does anyone want an electric Seven? They cost buttons to fill up with petrol and keeping the revs in the sweet spot is half the fun (or it was in a K).

How long until someone has a BIG accident on a country lane in a silent eSeven because nobody heard them coming?
Don't worry, the red flag should warn everyone,

Seriously though, the internal combustion engine is really an awful technology that has be made bearable by some good engineering. But I suspect anyone who has driven a modern electric car would struggle to agree with your point of view.
Quite.

The only thing between electric and total domination of 2/4 wheel transport are charging times and range (weight), with charging times being by far the most significant. Both these problems are being improved quickly. The internal combustion engine is destined to become a curious novelty, just as the steam engine is now.
Charging and range actually aren’t a deterrent to the majority. Anyone using their car for regular commutes and local use (the majority) doesn’t have a problem with either.

Price is the biggest issue at the moment IMO. (Other than many EVs having severe ugly problems.... wink )

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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DCL said:
ash73 said:
Why does anyone want an electric Seven? They cost buttons to fill up with petrol and keeping the revs in the sweet spot is half the fun (or it was in a K).

How long until someone has a BIG accident on a country lane in a silent eSeven because nobody heard them coming?
Don't worry, the red flag should warn everyone,

Seriously though, the internal combustion engine is really an awful technology that has be made bearable by some good engineering. But I suspect anyone who has driven a modern electric car would struggle to agree with your point of view.
I’ve driven a couple of EVs. Very good for doing what a car is fundamentally for, getting from A to B, and I’d certainly have one in the garage if they weren’t so outrageously expensive compared with similarly specced ICE.


Equus

16,875 posts

101 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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andy97 said:
Didnt Westfield develop an electric car several years ago?
Yup. They've in fact done a couple (plus a development mule based on their standard car, which sat between the two):

The first was by ex-Lotus F1 Chief Designer, Martin Ogilvie, and had a composite monocoque tub:





The second was the iRacer, with a spaceframe chassis but more radical bodywork, including shrouded wheels: