Zafira GSI, Info please chaps.
Discussion
Mikeyplum said:
This would be my choice of the Vauxhall:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
Very much a sleeper and 220bhp for the thrills. I'm sure this could be notched up and tuned with a mild remap too
IIRC it's a detuned version of the Focus ST engine (happy to be corrected though).
I'd go for that too.http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
Very much a sleeper and 220bhp for the thrills. I'm sure this could be notched up and tuned with a mild remap too
IIRC it's a detuned version of the Focus ST engine (happy to be corrected though).
It'll sound so much better than the Zafira aswell.
LuS1fer said:
Zafiras are shocking to drive.
This.I hired one for a three-week trip across France - had two bikes and luggage so wanted something large.
The Zafira was abysmal, there is no other word for it. Actually, there is another word for it; dull. Actually, there are more words for it.
In summary:
- No confidence in the corners whatsoever, wet or dry
- Wallowy soft, rolling, hopeless suspension. My OH at the time asked if we were driving a waterbed, so god-awful was it in the corners.
- Dull, dull, dull, dull
- Tiring on long drives due to bad driving position no matter how I adjusted the seats.
- Powered by four harnessed children - slightest incline would see me changing down, down, down, and screaming the engine. Sorry, that should be screaming AT the engine.
- Did I mention dull?
- Infuriating indicator controls that don't switch off when you want/expect them to, and end up indicating the other way when you furiously try to switch the fekkin thing off
- Dull to look at, nothing interesting of note whatsoever in its aesthetics - the design engineers studied at the University of Dull, and used a photo of John Major for added inspiration
- It has fold-down seats
In summary of the summary:
Avoid, at all costs, or you will end up dragging your fingernails down your eyeballs in the apoplectic hate you will feel for this truly awful vehicle after just eight and a half minutes of ownership.
Edited by Timbola on Friday 24th August 09:42
fathomfive said:
Mikeyplum said:
This would be my choice of the Vauxhall:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
Very much a sleeper and 220bhp for the thrills. I'm sure this could be notched up and tuned with a mild remap too
IIRC it's a detuned version of the Focus ST engine (happy to be corrected though).
I'd go for that too.http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
Very much a sleeper and 220bhp for the thrills. I'm sure this could be notched up and tuned with a mild remap too
IIRC it's a detuned version of the Focus ST engine (happy to be corrected though).
It'll sound so much better than the Zafira aswell.
How about something like this;
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
Its possibly a little too mainstream for you but should tick all the boxes;
fits multiple children
nice cabin (I liked it!)
room for a labradoodle in the back
relatively pokey
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
Its possibly a little too mainstream for you but should tick all the boxes;
fits multiple children
nice cabin (I liked it!)
room for a labradoodle in the back
relatively pokey
Timbola said:
This.
I hired one for a three-week trip across France - had two bikes and luggage so wanted something large.
The Zafira was abysmal, there is no other word for it.
In summary:
- No confidence in the corners whatsoever, wet or dry
- Wallowy soft, rolling, hopeless suspension. My OH at the time asked if we were driving a waterbed, so god-awful was it in the corners.
- Dull, dull, dull, dull
- Tiring on long drives due to bad driving position no matter how I adjusted the seats.
- Powered by four harnessed children - slightest incline would see me changing down, down, down, and screaming the engine. Sorry, that should be screaming AT the engine.
- Did I mention dull?
- Infuriating indicator controls that don't switch off when you want/expect them to, and end up indicating the other way when you furiously try to switch the fekkin thing off
- Dull to look at, nothing interesting of note whatsoever in its aesthetics - the design engineers studied at the University of Dull, and used a photo of John Major for added inspiration
- It has fold-down seats
In summary of the summary:
Avoid, at all costs, or you will end up dragging your fingernails down your eyeballs in the apoplectic hate you will feel for this truly awful vehicle after just eight and a half minutes of ownership.
Was it the GSI model?I hired one for a three-week trip across France - had two bikes and luggage so wanted something large.
The Zafira was abysmal, there is no other word for it.
In summary:
- No confidence in the corners whatsoever, wet or dry
- Wallowy soft, rolling, hopeless suspension. My OH at the time asked if we were driving a waterbed, so god-awful was it in the corners.
- Dull, dull, dull, dull
- Tiring on long drives due to bad driving position no matter how I adjusted the seats.
- Powered by four harnessed children - slightest incline would see me changing down, down, down, and screaming the engine. Sorry, that should be screaming AT the engine.
- Did I mention dull?
- Infuriating indicator controls that don't switch off when you want/expect them to, and end up indicating the other way when you furiously try to switch the fekkin thing off
- Dull to look at, nothing interesting of note whatsoever in its aesthetics - the design engineers studied at the University of Dull, and used a photo of John Major for added inspiration
- It has fold-down seats
In summary of the summary:
Avoid, at all costs, or you will end up dragging your fingernails down your eyeballs in the apoplectic hate you will feel for this truly awful vehicle after just eight and a half minutes of ownership.
If you fancy a Zafi, have you thought about the VXR? I know, I know it's completely contrary to previous comment of "Under the Radar" etc. but just food for thought.
Cheaper that the S Max too, but a bit chavvy:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/vauxh...
Cheaper that the S Max too, but a bit chavvy:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/vauxh...
SWoll said:
Genuinely don't understand this mentality.
So you would rather have a car that offers a worse driving and ownerhip experience because you're primary motivation is that it's unpopular?
Good luck with that.
Seems to have worked perfectly fine for me on previous cars. So you would rather have a car that offers a worse driving and ownerhip experience because you're primary motivation is that it's unpopular?
Good luck with that.
Not under the radar as such, I like the Zafira GSI due to it being the none obvious choice for the Zarifa's main target buyer. VXR version is a good option, I didn't realise they had come so cheap.
Timbola said:
This.
I hired one for a three-week trip across France - had two bikes and luggage so wanted something large.
The Zafira was abysmal, there is no other word for it. Actually, there is another word for it; dull. Actually, there are more words for it.
In summary:
- No confidence in the corners whatsoever, wet or dry
- Wallowy soft, rolling, hopeless suspension. My OH at the time asked if we were driving a waterbed, so god-awful was it in the corners.
- Dull, dull, dull, dull
- Tiring on long drives due to bad driving position no matter how I adjusted the seats.
- Powered by four harnessed children - slightest incline would see me changing down, down, down, and screaming the engine. Sorry, that should be screaming AT the engine.
- Did I mention dull?
- Infuriating indicator controls that don't switch off when you want/expect them to, and end up indicating the other way when you furiously try to switch the fekkin thing off
- Dull to look at, nothing interesting of note whatsoever in its aesthetics - the design engineers studied at the University of Dull, and used a photo of John Major for added inspiration
- It has fold-down seats
In summary of the summary:
Avoid, at all costs, or you will end up dragging your fingernails down your eyeballs in the apoplectic hate you will feel for this truly awful vehicle after just eight and a half minutes of ownership.
So you're comparing a bottom of the range rental with a GSI? I hired one for a three-week trip across France - had two bikes and luggage so wanted something large.
The Zafira was abysmal, there is no other word for it. Actually, there is another word for it; dull. Actually, there are more words for it.
In summary:
- No confidence in the corners whatsoever, wet or dry
- Wallowy soft, rolling, hopeless suspension. My OH at the time asked if we were driving a waterbed, so god-awful was it in the corners.
- Dull, dull, dull, dull
- Tiring on long drives due to bad driving position no matter how I adjusted the seats.
- Powered by four harnessed children - slightest incline would see me changing down, down, down, and screaming the engine. Sorry, that should be screaming AT the engine.
- Did I mention dull?
- Infuriating indicator controls that don't switch off when you want/expect them to, and end up indicating the other way when you furiously try to switch the fekkin thing off
- Dull to look at, nothing interesting of note whatsoever in its aesthetics - the design engineers studied at the University of Dull, and used a photo of John Major for added inspiration
- It has fold-down seats
In summary of the summary:
Avoid, at all costs, or you will end up dragging your fingernails down your eyeballs in the apoplectic hate you will feel for this truly awful vehicle after just eight and a half minutes of ownership.
Mikeyplum said:
Definitely this. Looks good value. Likes a drink, though. Will be thirstier than an Octavia vRS.
Not that it really matters what other people think, but whenever I see a 'sporty' people carrier, e.g Zafira GSI, or the Ford one with the 2.5 engine (S-Max, G-Max?) I genuinely feel pity for the driver, as if he is a bit of a petrol head, but life + family got in the way of his dreams and he's had to compromise.
monthefish said:
Not that it really matters what other people think, but whenever I see a 'sporty' people carrier, e.g Zafira GSI, or the Ford one with the 2.5 engine (S-Max, G-Max?) I genuinely feel pity for the driver, as if he is a bit of a petrol head, but life + family got in the way of his dreams and he's had to compromise.
With family life being FAR more important than cars, I'm happy to compromise. I had a bog standard MK5 golf before the octavia as I was offered it cheap, I sold as quick as possible for a profit and went for the Octavia, great family car with okay performance. Brilliant compromise in my eyes. I just fancy a change now but still want something 'sporty' and family/dog friendly. monthefish said:
Not that it really matters what other people think, but whenever I see a 'sporty' people carrier, e.g Zafira GSI, or the Ford one with the 2.5 engine (S-Max, G-Max?) I genuinely feel pity for the driver, as if he is a bit of a petrol head, but life + family got in the way of his dreams and he's had to compromise.
What a strange comment. How do you know that the MPV driver doesn't have something else tucked in the garage for the weekend? Would you feel less pity for the driver if the MPV was a low powered diesel model instead?
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