Thoughts on Vauxhall Mokka Design

Thoughts on Vauxhall Mokka Design

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Jimmy Recard

17,267 posts

138 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Oppo has seen Top Gear smile

white_goodman

3,531 posts

150 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Oppo said:
Obviously everyone who has owned a vauxhall now has to jump in to say everyone else is wrong because they owned an Astra and....hold the front page.....it was, and I quote "solid and reliable". Wow. Yoube really sold it to me there.

When you're own on your deathbed I dont think you'll look back on that Vauxhall and think "i'm glad I owned that" yet you could, strangely, with a Ford or Renault because they did exactly what the Vauxhall did but put a smile on your face behind the wheel.

Cue lots of Vauxhall owning saddos disagreeing...
My first car was a mk3 Astra and it was solid and reliable. It was also "dog s***" slow and handled like a belligerent shopping trolley and I have never owned another Vauxhall since. The 205 GTi and MINI Cooper that I owned later showed how a FWD car should handle. In all fairness though, you mentioned Ford and Renault and the contemporaries to my Astra would have been the mk5 Escort and Renault 19, which I'm not sure were any better and even the contemporary Golf (mk3) was a bit crap. I'm guessing that for that era, something like a Peugeot 306 or Citroen ZX, or even a Rover 200 might have been a more fun car though.

cossers

2,386 posts

99 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Oppo said:
Obviously everyone who has owned a vauxhall now has to jump in to say everyone else is wrong because they owned an Astra and....hold the front page.....it was, and I quote "solid and reliable". Wow. You really sold it to me there.

When you're own on your deathbed I dont think you'll look back on that Vauxhall and think "i'm glad I owned that" yet you could, strangely, with a Ford or Renault because they did exactly what the Vauxhall did but put a smile on your face behind the wheel.

Cue lots of Vauxhall owning saddos disagreeing...
So you own a.........

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

8,501 posts

59 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Oppo said:
Obviously everyone who has owned a vauxhall now has to jump in to say everyone else is wrong because they owned an Astra and....hold the front page.....it was, and I quote "solid and reliable". Wow. You really sold it to me there.

When you're own on your deathbed I dont think you'll look back on that Vauxhall and think "i'm glad I owned that" yet you could, strangely, with a Ford or Renault because they did exactly what the Vauxhall did but put a smile on your face behind the wheel.

Cue lots of Vauxhall owning saddos disagreeing...
Well, S has had her 15 plate Insignia for three years now. Sure, I won't look back with the lust for some of the cars we've/I've owned, but when the time comes I will look back and think 'that was a good car'. And it is. I'd bet 9/10 of the VH bashers on PH haven't driven one in the last 10 years, it's just a fashionable bash.

Monkeylegend

19,879 posts

190 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Oppo said:
Cue lots of Vauxhall owning saddos disagreeing...
And this is when we know you are losing the argument.

u33db

108 posts

15 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Oppo said:
When you're own on your deathbed I dont think you'll look back on that Vauxhall and think "i'm glad I owned that" yet you could, strangely, with a Ford or Renault because they did exactly what the Vauxhall did but put a smile on your face behind the wheel.
I would actually!

I owned both a 1.6T Corsa D and plain 1.4 daily for ages...the 1.6T got traded to help buy a new car for the wife, then the 1.4 traded for a Fiesta Ecoboost. I could never get on with the Fiesta and regretted selling the 1.6T Corsa on daily basis so only 9 months later the Fiesta got chopped in for a last of the line Corsa E VXR.

I've not looked back - its as fast as any similar class car and does everything i need.

Ok, its heavy on tax and fuel but i'd take that any day e.g. over the likes of Fords weird and wonderful engines... at least the VX is a proven design that you can easily work on unlike those stty 1.0 and above Ecoboost engines which aren't built to last.







lornemalvo

394 posts

27 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Jimmy Recard said:
lornemalvo said:
The people on this thread who extol the brilliance of the Mokka's design clearly set a low bar and need to pay more attention to what else is out there. The Mokka is a typical modern car, it is pure white goods, pretending to be an SUV, whereas in my opinion any decent SUV needs 4 wheel drive to suit owners' perceived "active lifestyle". The Mokka is ubiquitous, homogeneous crap that looks like any other pretend SUV that seem to flood the roads now thanks to the perpetual, inescapable cycle of debt that is PCP. Owners who extol their virtues have clearly never owned a seriously good car. For anyone who wants cheap A to B transport they are probably fine but please don't wax lyrical about the design.
Plenty of them do have four wheel drive.

I would not buy a Mokka, but it seems like a perfectly reasonable car for someone who wants a car like that. Much like the Ford or VW or Renault or whatever equivalent. It won’t be any better or worse
Around 1 in 8 of those for sale do have four wheel drive ( I must admit I did not know this) but the majority do not

Evanivitch

7,370 posts

81 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Oppo said:
When you're own on your deathbed I dont think you'll look back on that Vauxhall and think "i'm glad I owned that" yet you could, strangely, with a Ford or Renault because they did exactly what the Vauxhall did but put a smile on your face behind the wheel.
They only people smiling in a Ford Mondeo are doggers.

The Li-ion King

2,608 posts

23 months

Tuesday 28th January
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u33db said:
The Li-ion King said:
None of the cars shout excitement, more functional than anything else.
This makes me laugh, you seem to have forgotten about all the VXR models and numerous other fast Vauxhalls that have come and gone??

Particularly in recent years i think it'd be fair to say the fast vauxhalls all sport far more aggressive, and exciting styling compared to the equivalent Ford that all the fan boys on here seem to love, and also most of these Vauxhalls were usually built YEARS before Ford or whoever got their act together to catch up in terms of build quality and performance.

Even the base models are very good though.
There have been some great cars from VX, I grew up with the Nova GTE, have had fast Astra's and even got a surprise in the form of a Vectra 3.2 V6 hire car. Even some of the Astra CDTi's have been a hoot. It's the very similar looking SUV range which is uninspiring, but that's just my personal choice. There's been good cars like the Monaro, even if it was a re badged Holden, plus the VX220 was great.

For context, I have owned 4 Vauxhall's compared to two Ford's (and had more issues with the Fords - Orion burnt oil like no tomorrow, Mondeo had issues with the Delphi Injectors)... everyone has their own preference, I started with a Yugo 513, had Metro's and even a Talbot Alpine Rapier, so no snobbery here... my "daily" is a Transit Connect, though I would have preferred the Vauxhall Combo wink

Dadoc2001

96 posts

15 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Never ridden in one and never been a consideration of ours but seem very popular in the caravan/towing fraternity. Am I right in saying the 4x4 versions have a tow 'limit' of 2200kgs over most tow cars 2000kgs?

rallycross

11,033 posts

196 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Dadoc2001 said:
very popular in the caravan/towing fraternity.?
I will leave that there for consideration.

Just one change, delete the bit about towing but leave the bit about caravanists, there wont be many of these stboxes being used as tow cars in your local race car paddock, the Mokka is an utterly cack vehicle in all respects (yes I have driven a few, petrol and diesel). A car designed to be hand picked by idiots.

anonymous-user

13 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Monkeylegend said:
Oppo said:
Cue lots of Vauxhall owning saddos disagreeing...
And this is when we know you are losing the argument.
And this is when we know you own a vauxhall. How predictable.

anonymous-user

13 months

Tuesday 28th January
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cossers said:
Oppo said:
Obviously everyone who has owned a vauxhall now has to jump in to say everyone else is wrong because they owned an Astra and....hold the front page.....it was, and I quote "solid and reliable". Wow. You really sold it to me there.

When you're own on your deathbed I dont think you'll look back on that Vauxhall and think "i'm glad I owned that" yet you could, strangely, with a Ford or Renault because they did exactly what the Vauxhall did but put a smile on your face behind the wheel.

Cue lots of Vauxhall owning saddos disagreeing...
So you own a.........
Nothing actually.

I drive many different cars and have driven pretty much everything (sprt of McLaren F1s and 250 GTOs) literally thousands in various jobs.

When ever I'm in a vauxhall the only redeemable feature is that it is slightly better than walking to the destination.

I should point out that the only Vauxhalls I like are ones that aren't really Vauxhalls. ie had input from others..VX220, Monaro, VXR8, Lotus Carlton. Note the key thing there is that had to have others input to make anything decent.


SidewaysSi

7,993 posts

193 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Oppo said:
cossers said:
Oppo said:
Obviously everyone who has owned a vauxhall now has to jump in to say everyone else is wrong because they owned an Astra and....hold the front page.....it was, and I quote "solid and reliable". Wow. You really sold it to me there.

When you're own on your deathbed I dont think you'll look back on that Vauxhall and think "i'm glad I owned that" yet you could, strangely, with a Ford or Renault because they did exactly what the Vauxhall did but put a smile on your face behind the wheel.

Cue lots of Vauxhall owning saddos disagreeing...
So you own a.........
Nothing actually.

I drive many different cars and have driven pretty much everything (sprt of McLaren F1s and 250 GTOs) literally thousands in various jobs.

When ever I'm in a vauxhall the only redeemable feature is that it is slightly better than walking to the destination.

I should point out that the only Vauxhalls I like are ones that aren't really Vauxhalls. ie had input from others..VX220, Monaro, VXR8, Lotus Carlton. Note the key thing there is that had to have others input to make anything decent.
So you don't own a car. Have you ever owned one?

anonymous-user

13 months

Tuesday 28th January
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SidewaysSi said:
So you don't own a car. Have you ever owned one?
I can sense you and others frothing at the mouth waiting to slag off my car simply because I said Vauxhalls are st (which they are) but no, I haven't owned a car. Never needed to.

Not all 'empty garagers' on here hide because they're scared someone will rifle through it as ammunition because they're butt hurt I slated their Astra.

SidewaysSi

7,993 posts

193 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Oppo said:
SidewaysSi said:
So you don't own a car. Have you ever owned one?
I can sense you and others frothing at the mouth waiting to slag off my car simply because I said Vauxhalls are st (which they are) but no, I haven't owned a car. Never needed to.

Not all 'empty garagers' on here hide because they're scared someone will rifle through it as ammunition because they're butt hurt I dont slated their Astra.
Says it all. And not sure I understand your last sentence.

anonymous-user

13 months

Tuesday 28th January
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SidewaysSi said:
Says it all. And not sure I understand your last sentence.
Yes, it says it all for people like you.

cossers

2,386 posts

99 months

Tuesday 28th January
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Oppo said:
SidewaysSi said:
Says it all. And not sure I understand your last sentence.
Yes, it says it all for people like you.
Why him? What sort of job do you have, sounds exciting.

James_33

263 posts

25 months

Wednesday 29th January
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Oppo said:
SidewaysSi said:
So you don't own a car. Have you ever owned one?
I can sense you and others frothing at the mouth waiting to slag off my car simply because I said Vauxhalls are st (which they are) but no, I haven't owned a car. Never needed to.

Not all 'empty garagers' on here hide because they're scared someone will rifle through it as ammunition because they're butt hurt I slated their Astra.
Bus wker

A1VDY

3,283 posts

86 months

Wednesday 29th January
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Amazing how things turn into personal slagging so easily on PH. All over a mundane volume car... lol..