Bullitt Mustang Sold Out

[cib24]

I will just do it myself and use a friend's lift at his shop to do it. It's very easy to do on a new car that doesn't have years of road grime and surface rust to worry about. Just spray it everywhere basically and the cavity wax just inject it anywhere you find a hole in a door, subframe, bonnet, etc.

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The Mustang comes to the UK with a light coating of rust protection in the wheel wells and around the muffler area. Otherwise, it's fully exposed stamped steel for the subframes, sills, suspension, and other parts under the car. Not all of it is painted and even if it is, the fact that it is stamped steel means owners will start to see surface rust after the first winter.

Coating everything in an underseal and cavity wax is the best way to prevent that. Also, take care of any stone chips immediately to ensure things like the bonnet, arches, bottoms of the doors stay good for years to come.

[Superleg48]

But ceramic coating does not protect the paint from stone chips.

Only PPF will do that and even then, larger stones at speed will penetrate it.

[cib24]

I personally prefer ceramic. You can always respray a bumper later from chips.

PPF has to be applied in a certain way and needs to be replaced every few years anyway, and sometimes when you remove it the paint comes with it.

I have a ceramicccoat on my current car and it's excellent.

[Superleg48]

cib24 said:

I personally prefer ceramic. You can always respray a bumper later from chips.

PPF has to be applied in a certain way and needs to be replaced every few years anyway, and sometimes when you remove it the paint comes with it.

I have a ceramicccoat on my current car and it's excellent.

Think you need to bring yourself up to date with regards to PPF.

Not sure what you mean by “has to be applied in a certain way”. Of course it does, but so do ceramic products.

Most PPF products now carry 10 year guarantees.

If it is applied correctly or “In this certain way”, and if removed “in a certain way” you won’t lose any paint.

Ceramic is good for easy maintenance washes and general dirt and grime repelling.

[cib24]

I have been reading about the terrible quality of the factory paint job on Mustangs on the USA forums, and how the paint chips so easily and towards the edges of various panels like the doors, boot, bonnet, wings, roof, etc. that there is no paint on some edges. I am also reading about paint runs on the cars from the factory in panels and dirt under the clear, etc.

How are UK owners cars in comparison? Anyone whether a Bullitt, GT or Ecoboost owner unhappy with the factory paint quality? And how is the car holding up to stone chips?

[GW65]

cib24 said:

I have been reading about the terrible quality of the factory paint job on Mustangs on the USA forums, and how the paint chips so easily and towards the edges of various panels like the doors, boot, bonnet, wings, roof, etc. that there is no paint on some edges. I am also reading about paint runs on the cars from the factory in panels and dirt under the clear, etc.

How are UK owners cars in comparison? Anyone whether a Bullitt, GT or Ecoboost owner unhappy with the factory paint quality? And how is the car holding up to stone chips?

Only had mine for 3 months and 1600 miles, so too soon to comment on chips...but generally the (Ruby Red) paint looks fine: no orange peel, no obvious blemishes, and all looks the same colour (metal and plastic). I think the US owners are way more anal about everything than we are, and based on experience of driving in the US there's often way more crap on their roads than there is on ours so more scope for paint damage.

[mac96]

GW65 said:

cib24 said:

I have been reading about the terrible quality of the factory paint job on Mustangs on the USA forums, and how the paint chips so easily and towards the edges of various panels like the doors, boot, bonnet, wings, roof, etc. that there is no paint on some edges. I am also reading about paint runs on the cars from the factory in panels and dirt under the clear, etc.

How are UK owners cars in comparison? Anyone whether a Bullitt, GT or Ecoboost owner unhappy with the factory paint quality? And how is the car holding up to stone chips?

Only had mine for 3 months and 1600 miles, so too soon to comment on chips...but generally the (Ruby Red) paint looks fine: no orange peel, no obvious blemishes, and all looks the same colour (metal and plastic). I think the US owners are way more anal about everything than we are, and based on experience of driving in the US there's often way more crap on their roads than there is on ours so more scope for paint damage.

Mine is over 2 years now and 20,000 mainly motorway/A Road miles (it's not exactly a town car!); one or two stone chips, but nothing abnormal. Paint very even, no orange peel, runs etc. Nothing to complain about in fact. It's grey.

[cib24]

Good to hear that UK owners aren't finding any major issues with the paint work.

How about the windows? I rented a Mustang in the USA a few weeks ago and notice that the window drops 1/4" or so when you open the door to ensure you don't bang on the weatherstripping, but the rental seemed to drop pretty slowly and the window always snagged on the seal. Is that normal operation or should you activate the handle, wait a second and then open the door after the window has dropped?

Anyway, I inquired about my MY2020 Bullitt and it would seem that my Bullitt and possibly this next batch for the UK will not be produced until end 2019/Q1 2020 for delivery thereafter. So, I'm not expecting my car until next spring. Kind of sucks but I wouldn't be driving the car after the end of November anyway until about March/April to avoid the salt and harsh weather.

[GW65]

cib24 said:

Good to hear that UK owners aren't finding any major issues with the paint work.

How about the windows? I rented a Mustang in the USA a few weeks ago and notice that the window drops 1/4" or so when you open the door to ensure you don't bang on the weatherstripping, but the rental seemed to drop pretty slowly and the window always snagged on the seal. Is that normal operation or should you activate the handle, wait a second and then open the door after the window has dropped?

Anyway, I inquired about my MY2020 Bullitt and it would seem that my Bullitt and possibly this next batch for the UK will not be produced until end 2019/Q1 2020 for delivery thereafter. So, I'm not expecting my car until next spring. Kind of sucks but I wouldn't be driving the car after the end of November anyway until about March/April to avoid the salt and harsh weather.

The window indexing behaviour is largely down to using regular pull door-handles, so a pause helps. (My old Vette had pressure pads instead so could do the delay itself). On rentals may also be down to door-seals getting a bit sticky so silicone spray can help.

[mac96]

GW65 said:

cib24 said:

Good to hear that UK owners aren't finding any major issues with the paint work.

How about the windows? I rented a Mustang in the USA a few weeks ago and notice that the window drops 1/4" or so when you open the door to ensure you don't bang on the weatherstripping, but the rental seemed to drop pretty slowly and the window always snagged on the seal. Is that normal operation or should you activate the handle, wait a second and then open the door after the window has dropped?

Anyway, I inquired about my MY2020 Bullitt and it would seem that my Bullitt and possibly this next batch for the UK will not be produced until end 2019/Q1 2020 for delivery thereafter. So, I'm not expecting my car until next spring. Kind of sucks but I wouldn't be driving the car after the end of November anyway until about March/April to avoid the salt and harsh weather.

The window indexing behaviour is largely down to using regular pull door-handles, so a pause helps. (My old Vette had pressure pads instead so could do the delay itself). On rentals may also be down to door-seals getting a bit sticky so silicone spray can help.

Indexing on mine has always worked fine, without any conscious pause on my part. Just once it decided not to raise itself again- switching power off and on again resolved that.

[M Barrett]

Hi folks sorry been away and just returned to the forum. My spacers are hubcentric aluminium supplied by Steeda. They were fitted along with the other suspension upgrades by Pilgrim Motorsports in Sussex who checked the alignment after fitting everything and it was spot on. They are possibly the most professional outfit I have come across and I would highly recommend them. So far as paint is concerned I have BMW 640 Grand Coupe too and everyone who has seen them together agrees that the Mustang has far better paint in every way. Obviously the shut lines on the BMW are in another league. I wouldn’t bother with any treatment underneath as the entire car is galvanised or whatever so will not rust. I can’t remember but the bodywork is guaranteed for years against corrosion, I think ten years so save your time and money. Also people are very suspicious about new cars that have additional treatment applied as they don’t know what it may be covering up!!

[spyderlight]

M Barrett said:

Hi folks sorry been away and just returned to the forum. My spacers are hubcentric aluminium supplied by Steeda. They were fitted along with the other suspension upgrades by Pilgrim Motorsports in Sussex who checked the alignment after fitting everything and it was spot on. They are possibly the most professional outfit I have come across and I would highly recommend them. So far as paint is concerned I have BMW 640 Grand Coupe too and everyone who has seen them together agrees that the Mustang has far better paint in every way. Obviously the shut lines on the BMW are in another league. I wouldn’t bother with any treatment underneath as the entire car is galvanised or whatever so will not rust. I can’t remember but the bodywork is guaranteed for years against corrosion, I think ten years so save your time and money. Also people are very suspicious about new cars that have additional treatment applied as they don’t know what it may be covering up!!

All Mustangs are not galvanised or even finished to the same higher standard as the Ford cars that are built in Europe & sold in the same showroom with stone chip underbody finsh. My car had rust on all metal parts that were exposed underneath then ford tried to hide it by spraying black paint on top to hide it. Most of the floor panels are finished off with primer undercoat showing with a hint of green here & there. When l questioned the dealer they said thats the way they are they are not built in Europe but you have a rust warranty. With the salt on our roads they will soon rust & for anyone who wants to look after there car would be advised to carry out protection of there own. Relying on Ford warranty is to late when the car has rusted through.

[M Barrett]

Not sure who told you that but it’s rubbish. I have a contact (reliable) who works in R and D for Ford in USA and he assures me that the U.K. or should I say Europe bound Mustangs are treated in the same way as all other U.K. Fords’ Fiestas, Focus etc hence you may remember the long delay in the first batch of S550’s hitting the U.K. I had one of the first cars delivered, an Ecoboost which I sold to a friend in March 2016 and he uses it as his daily runabout having clocked up 32000 miles through rain, snow salt and whatever and it is still immaculate with no rust at all. Incidentally he he has it cleaned every other week at the Polish car wash. Never been polished or particularly looked after and her it is. I really don’t think Ford would send sub standard cars to the U.K. with the risk of millions of pounds worth of warranty claims, work it out!

[M Barrett]

Oh and by the way this photo was taken on Thursday 25th July...

[spyderlight]

M Barrett said:

Not sure who told you that but it’s rubbish. I have a contact (reliable) who works in R and D for Ford in USA and he assures me that the U.K. or should I say Europe bound Mustangs are treated in the same way as all other U.K. Fords’ Fiestas, Focus etc hence you may remember the long delay in the first batch of S550’s hitting the U.K. I had one of the first cars delivered, an Ecoboost which I sold to a friend in March 2016 and he uses it as his daily runabout having clocked up 32000 miles through rain, snow salt and whatever and it is still immaculate with no rust at all. Incidentally he he has it cleaned every other week at the Polish car wash. Never been polished or particularly looked after and her it is. I really don’t think Ford would send sub standard cars to the U.K. with the risk of millions of pounds worth of warranty claims, work it out!

(Ignorance is bliss) no one told me that rubbish as l know myself from experience which you clearly lack. You need to put your car on ramp & do an inspection of the under body to see that they are not stone chipped (undersealed) & then go down to your local Ford dealer and look underneath a Ford Focus etc to see that they have stone chip applied when they were manufactured and Mustangs do not in Europe or USA instead of listening to utter rubbish other people tell you.

Read the link below & you might get to understand what the reality is.

(Google) So who has ordered the new S550 Mustang? - Page 157 - Mustangs ...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Having carried out your inspection (which l doubt you will do) and read the above thread you might get to work it out for your self.

[cib24]

I went to my local dealership to see a Bullitt that was being prepped for delivery to a customer in a few days. I can confirm that the rear arches, exhaust and petrol tank area are covered in some kind of black stone chip. However, the rest of the car is completely uncovered. The sills, the whole underside of the centre of the car between the wheels including the chassis rails, and the underside of the front of the car (including the arches) have zero rust protection from the factory.

So, I would personally get some Bilt Hamber Dynax UC and spray it on under the car. It's a transparent underseal so it looks like nothing is there and it allows you to monitor what's underneath the underseal in case anything needs attention down the line due to trapped moisture. I would also use Bilt Hamber Dynax S50 cavity wax to ensure you seal the insides of the doors, bonnet, boot lid, any cavities in the frame, etc.

It's not hard to apply as you can literally just spray it on after spraying on some degreaser underneath to ensure the surface is clean. Just do it in a garage you don't care about so that you don't need to paint your floor afterwards, haha.

https://www.bilthamber.com/dynax-uc

https://www.bilthamber.com/corrosion-protection-an...

[Roo]

The underseal, or lack of, is a well documented issue for EU/UK bound S550 cars.

They might, if you're lucky, get a quick spray of something over some components when they arrive here.

Meanwhile, all SN95 and S197 owners laugh at your tears of frustration as none of our cars, not designed for this market, have never suffered any corrosion issues and wonder what you're getting your knickers in a twist about.

[GW65]

Roo said:

The underseal, or lack of, is a well documented issue for EU/UK bound S550 cars.

They might, if you're lucky, get a quick spray of something over some components when they arrive here.

Meanwhile, all SN95 and S197 owners laugh at your tears of frustration as none of our cars, not designed for this market, have never suffered any corrosion issues and wonder what you're getting your knickers in a twist about.

People like to worry, although they have to shout to be heard over the BBQ tick

[M Barrett]

For god sake, it’s a Ford, it’s cheap, it’s fast and it’s got loads of character, get in it and drive it. My old 32k mile Ecoboost which I sold to a friend has been used and abused all year round and has no rust anywhere. It was only 32k new. I’ve lost more than that on German cars the moment I drove them off the forecourt! But of course they don’t rust...
If I use the Bullitt for 5 years and it falls apart with rust, what the heck, 10k a year big deal.
Stop wittering on and slagging off the U.K. bound Fords thus destroying the residuals and get out and enjoy it.. End of... finished..

[AndrewD]

Sounds like the Bullitt is true to the original car and will rust like one as well