Mach 1

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Grandad Gaz

5,093 posts

246 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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Sorry, I got that wrong! Build date is March!

Delivery hopefully in May. smile

David Beer

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3,982 posts

267 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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Grandad Gaz said:
Sorry, I got that wrong! Build date is March!

Delivery hopefully in May. smile
Wow that’s quick delivery, when I enquired a year ago for just a new replacement for mine, it was a year !!

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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Grandad Gaz said:
Thanks for sharing. That’s more than I can justify for a new Mustang!
It's more than ANYBODY should justify for an S550 Mustang given that they were mid-thirties only five years ago!!

Barrie c 66

195 posts

82 months

Monday 4th January 2021
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My goodness me, that's a lot of money for a Mustang. Not the bargain they were any more.

David Beer

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3,982 posts

267 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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Barrie c 66 said:
My goodness me, that's a lot of money for a Mustang. Not the bargain they were any more.
The only good thing is secondhand cars are holding up well . So come trade in time, hopefully will go towards balancing it out. I. Have been looking but will probably keep mine, 1500 miles a year !

QuattroDave

1,465 posts

128 months

Monday 18th January 2021
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Centurion07 said:
Grandad Gaz said:
Thanks for sharing. That’s more than I can justify for a new Mustang!
It's more than ANYBODY should justify for an S550 Mustang given that they were mid-thirties only five years ago!!
But since 2018 they had a must better interior & tech added and has the gen3 coyote vs the gen2 of the 2016 model good for 30 odd more bhp and revs over 7k now

Still a hell of a lot of money, my 69 plate cost me £42k after discount.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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A £1000 tune will get the first ones up to 470bhp with no other mods and aside from the digital dash and the option of Recaros I don't think the interior has changed has it?

jimmsy

422 posts

127 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Centurion07 said:
A £1000 tune will get the first ones up to 470bhp with no other mods and aside from the digital dash and the option of Recaros I don't think the interior has changed has it?
Some of the more plastic bits in the interior are now leathery plastic, like the transmission tunnel. To be honest both gens are a bargain for what they are. The second gen is nicer, but the first is a cracking car, and the difference in prices between the two used make sense. The first cars have had their residuals helped with the second having a jump in price. The same happened with the Nissan GTRs (R35), there was a sudden increase in price from the first gen in the UK, and that kept the prices high.

I've got an 18 plate pre-facelift. So am being honest when I say the facelifts are noticeably nicer, but that it doesn't mean the pre-facelifts aren't still good value.

One consideration is that if you want to play around and tune it, it's much easier on the pre-facelifts as they don't have the G/OPF, so the US company tunes work. I got a car to play with and tinker with, so went pre-facelift.

B3NNL

1,056 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Centurion07 said:
A £1000 tune will get the first ones up to 470bhp with no other mods and aside from the digital dash and the option of Recaros I don't think the interior has changed has it?
Sorry, never in a month of Sundays will a tune alone gain you 50hp over stock!

Tune, free flowing exhaust, 2018 inlet manifold & CAI may get you about 30hp, but the only way to achieve 50hp would be to swap the headers as well. From someone thats now sitting on 520 with all the above and now looking at Camms and head porting to reach the magical 600 NA

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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B3NNL said:
Sorry, never in a month of Sundays will a tune alone gain you 50hp over stock!

Tune, free flowing exhaust, 2018 inlet manifold & CAI may get you about 30hp, but the only way to achieve 50hp would be to swap the headers as well. From someone thats now sitting on 520 with all the above and now looking at Camms and head porting to reach the magical 600 NA
That may have been a white lie.

I don't know what a tune will gain on a completely standard car, but I do know for a 100% verifiable fact that a 2015 model fitted with a PMAS intake ($400?) plus a tune will put a UK car at 470bhp, and what are they standard, 410/415ish?

I know of two identically-specced cars that were measured on a respected RR and came out at 470 and 471.

If you only made an extra 30bhp from the mods you listed then I'd get someone that knows what they're doing to tune it again as that's abysmal.


Edited by Centurion07 on Tuesday 19th January 17:10

David Beer

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3,982 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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I don’t know absolute figures but have read the uk cars are detuned to meet emissions. Iam sure someone will pop up and confirm.
Not that I would do anything to mine, quite happy to keep the warranty as standard.
Made big mistakes in the past with the griff 500 !

jimmsy

422 posts

127 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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David Beer said:
I don’t know absolute figures but have read the uk cars are detuned to meet emissions. Iam sure someone will pop up and confirm.
Not that I would do anything to mine, quite happy to keep the warranty as standard.
Made big mistakes in the past with the griff 500 !
RHD are de-tuned as the headers had to be screwed with to get around the steering rack.

For £1k though you can do manifold, intake and tune which you should hit high 400s bhp.

David Beer

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3,982 posts

267 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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jimmsy said:
RHD are de-tuned as the headers had to be screwed with to get around the steering rack.

For £1k though you can do manifold, intake and tune which you should hit high 400s bhp.
Blimey, that’s not expensive, just to have it, don’t need it. I will ask the Ford warranty department.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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I don't think you'll get that for a grand fitted. That manifold is a bd to do.

David Beer

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3,982 posts

267 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Centurion07 said:
I don't think you'll get that for a grand fitted. That manifold is a bd to do.
Anyone ?

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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ISTR a British company making a single manifold for the driver's side but can't remember the name.

Pretty sure you're looking at around £500 just for that then you have a good couple of hours labour so you'd be nudging £700 before you get to a map and CAI. scratchchin

Legacywr

12,119 posts

188 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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I was interested in one of these, I was told the deliveries wouldn’t be until September. I didn’t want to wait, so bought a Bullitt... the 0% finance helped sway me too.

Very happy with it.

The Mach1 I’d have liked in blue smile

jimmsy

422 posts

127 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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I wasn't specific enough in what I said. Intake manifold from the 2018 cars, rather than exhaust manifold. The exhaust manifolds are both expensive and a ball ache.

Olivera

7,131 posts

239 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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Why does the UK get such an utterly st spec of Mustang, including the Mach 1?

No handling package with all the bits, no torsen diff, -20bhp and to top it off a bumped up price.

cibble10

722 posts

119 months

Wednesday 17th March 2021
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Grandad Gaz said:
Sorry, I got that wrong! Build date is March!

Delivery hopefully in May. smile
Ordered the same but with the manual box. Quoted 10-14 weeks delivery.