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JR

11,566 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
JR said:
So are you saying that the grey one was resprayed green?
No. Two different conversations going on;)

The grey one is still grey. It's the original prototype.

The green ones you are referring to are not green but reflex charcoal and there are two of them.
Ah, I see now thx.

V8 GRF

7,276 posts

130 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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There are only 4. The original Tuscan R prototype was destroyed as required as it wasn't homologated/type approved.

As I now understand it the carbon fibre clad honeycomb wasn't used as a structural component and was just used to form the inner front wings.

JR

11,566 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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V8 GRF said:
As I now understand it the carbon fibre clad honeycomb wasn't used as a structural component and was just used to form the inner front wings.
What was used to stiffen up the 'backbone' of the spaceframe?

V8 GRF

7,276 posts

130 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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JR said:
What was used to stiffen up the 'backbone' of the spaceframe?
Carbon fibre was laid up in a mould to create the inner tunnel section. The chassis was then offered up into that and triangles of heat and sound insulation were inserted between the tubes then another layer bonded the chassis to the carbon. You can see the 'lattice work' pattern of the chassis but it's all bonded together as one unit. Very stiff but hot and noisy I believe. :-)




Edited by V8 GRF on Wednesday 27th April 15:45

DonkeyApple

26,707 posts

89 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Some additional info I've dug out now I'm in the office:

Build Number Original Colour Original Engine CC Original Number Plate Number Plate Changed To: Colour Changed To: Current Number Plate: Current Colour Current Engine CC notes
0a Red N/A PN 02 ZNG N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A Red show car/prototype with the smaller centre console pod. This was converted to the De Walt promo car, number 91.
0b Fleetwood Bronze 4.0 PL 03 BXY N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A This car also had the small centre dash pod, synonomous with the prototype cars. It was driven by Brundle for his supercar video. Possibly a 2 seater as well.
1 Grey 4.0 N/A LNT 3 Grey L5 DYJ Unchanged Unchanged First road going prototype T440, essentially no different from the later cars.
2 Reflex Charcoal 4.0 PN 06 EHT T14 HON Unchanged Unchanged Unchanged Unchanged This was the first customer spec'd car but it was taken by NS to be his own and later sold. Since sold and in new hands.
3 Orange (Lamborghini?) 4.2 SC AF 04 BYZ Unchanged Unchanged Unchanged Unchanged 4.0 Racing Green FFF2 NA Again, a customer car which was ordered to Typhon spec (SC and Sequential box). Was never delivered as TVR could not get the package to work before folding. Car was recently sold and is undergoing full restoration to T440 spec (non SC, non sequential)
4 Reflex Charcoal 4.0 PN 06 EHX TYP 110N Unchanged Unchanged Unchanged 4.5 TVR Power SuperSports Only car actually delivered to a client by TVR and was the replacement for the original customer car taken by NS for personal use



I don't think any of the owners would mind this info going up as it is all public domain but please feel free to modify any errors or remove details about your cars if you are not happy. Original spec and build order came from the people at the factory who built them and ran the project.

Edited by DonkeyApple on Monday 9th May 10:57


Edited by DonkeyApple on Friday 27th May 10:56


Edited by DonkeyApple on Sunday 5th June 17:13

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DavidY

3,880 posts

204 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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How did Harry Metcalfe at EVO drive the red one on the road if it was a non-runner?

McAndy

Original Poster:

8,744 posts

97 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Brilliant. Thank you! It appears that a favourable percentage of the cars will be at this Caring with cars on the 9th July. bounce

TQ3

60 posts

139 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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Excellent summary of the Typhon's rather obscure history.

I can add a couple of small facts to Donkey Apple's table:

TYP 110N was originally PN06 EHX when first registered in March 2006. The ‘TYP 110N’ plate was acquired courtesy of Pauline and Ray Frost (better known as the Yellow Peril and the mid Essex TVRCC). The original engine was a 4.0 Speed Six but has been recently upgraded to a TVR Power Supersports 4.5 unit.

mr shifty

245 posts

90 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Where do the T400R race cars fit into all this? How many are there and what "relation" are they to the production versions?

V8 GRF

7,276 posts

130 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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mr shifty said:
Where do the T400R race cars fit into all this? How many are there and what "relation" are they to the production versions?
They are seperate cars altogether no road car became (real) race cars and vice versa, indeed most came beforer the road cars. Very similar in construction however but running 4.0 litre engines as standard as opposed to the 4.4 in the T440.
(wiling to be shot down in flames obver that last comment if it didn't come to pass in reality)

BCA

8,605 posts

177 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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DavidY said:
How did Harry Metcalfe at EVO drive the red one on the road if it was a non-runner?
It was a runner, I followed it along the M6 one night at a steady 70mph absolutely blasting past all other (not much) traffic that for the speed differential one can only assume were doing a consistant 20mph... wink

Bit upset to read that it may have been cut up, I assumed it was one that Nikolai took back with him? frown

V8 GRF

7,276 posts

130 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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BCA said:
It was a runner, I followed it along the M6 one night at a steady 70mph absolutely blasting past all other (not much) traffic that for the speed differential one can only assume were doing a consistant 20mph... wink

Bit upset to read that it may have been cut up, I assumed it was one that Nikolai took back with him? frown
Need to check the details but I'n pretty certain that the red one was stripped out and converted to the De-Walt replica that was photographed on the Ark Royal.

DonkeyApple

26,707 posts

89 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Table updated to include latest details from owners etc.

Awaiting confirm via V8Grf on some minor matters re the earliest cars.

Gazzab

16,861 posts

202 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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And it was good to see the pair of relfex charcoals at Chatsworth on Sunday.

quattrophenia

1,090 posts

118 months

Sunday 22nd May 2011
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Gazzab said:
And it was good to see the pair of relfex charcoals at Chatsworth on Sunday.
It was indeed, all we need next year is a speed 12 (either variant!).
Sod it.....we want both variants smokin

Rusty pipes

31 posts

128 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Hello Typhon watchers
for the record this was the first pre-production development roadcar with the later style body that was originaly Red and driven to Le mans by Chris Runcimen featured Evo mag and which later became the Dewalt/Ark Royal shot with a very long lens Spoof car.
I thought this might clarify the chassis stiffener floor panel debate once and for all. The L shaped panels as you can see bond and bolt to the chassis and also perform side intrusion protection for driver and passenger as you can see ,these panels are aluminium skinned 28mm ali honeycomb sandwich construction with load bearing ali inserts and also youll see in the far right hand corner screwed inserts for air jack rams ,as per race car which carried on using this type
However as further development and for weight saving and increased stiffening characteristics we made tooling and produced a carbon fibre skinned pannel with 28mm aluminium cored version for the production roadcars with when combined with the transmission tunnel and outer body panels produced a very stiff roadcar!
ciao for now Rusty Pipes
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DonkeyApple

26,707 posts

89 months

Thursday 26th May 2011
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Cheers Rusty. Much appreciated.

So, now we have confirmation that the first red road prototype was the car that was butchered and turned into a De Walt racer on the outside as neither of the real race cars had been finished so couldn't make it to the Ark Royal shoot.

All we have to hope now is that the De Walt race car Dom has just bought is not this mock up or he'll be a little upset wink

This does mean that there is only one real question outstanding preventing us knowing conclusively what happened to all the road versions.

And this is the question of the Fleetwood Bronze T440 on the '03 plate which Brundle used for his video.

The current belief is that this is the car that LNT ended up with and it was resprayed grey after it's first crash.


Edited by DonkeyApple on Friday 27th May 11:01

msmit660

68 posts

105 months

Thursday 26th May 2011
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The Grey T440 is currently being repaired and is hoping to make an appearance at a TVR event which is coming soon.

yorkieboy

1,820 posts

95 months

Friday 27th May 2011
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Interesting thread! Never forget at goodwood a Dewalt LM starting up! what a noise :-D

Tonymg

514 posts

117 months

Saturday 4th June 2011
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Remember this for sale @ R G i was thinking of getting it? but i did not because it had no Engine? I so so wish i had @ the time.. never mined..... where is it know?