Nude women, and bouncing bare boobs in computer games
Poll: Nude women, and bouncing bare boobs in computer games
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Discussion
What have we had over the years, what have I missed? 
If 18 rated games can be so violent (grand theft auto) that they are sometimes banned from shelves in countries like Australia, why do we not have more topless women with big bare bouncing boobs running around virtual worlds, in those same 18 rated games.
Head shots, blood and gore, chainsaw deaths, throats being slashed... but no boobs
I remember a video games magazine writing an april fools joke about Lara Croft having a nude skin, accessible only via a cheat on the PS1... cue the following month, loads of people writing in, saying they had sold their other system to buy a playstation, and Tomb Raider, but were angry having not been able to get the nude version of Lara to appear. Clearly, sex sells.
IIRC, isnt topless nudity rated 15 in films, if not pornographic in nature? Whereas some of the violence mentioned above attracts 18 certificates...
Why no boobs then?
If 18 rated games can be so violent (grand theft auto) that they are sometimes banned from shelves in countries like Australia, why do we not have more topless women with big bare bouncing boobs running around virtual worlds, in those same 18 rated games.
Head shots, blood and gore, chainsaw deaths, throats being slashed... but no boobs
I remember a video games magazine writing an april fools joke about Lara Croft having a nude skin, accessible only via a cheat on the PS1... cue the following month, loads of people writing in, saying they had sold their other system to buy a playstation, and Tomb Raider, but were angry having not been able to get the nude version of Lara to appear. Clearly, sex sells.
IIRC, isnt topless nudity rated 15 in films, if not pornographic in nature? Whereas some of the violence mentioned above attracts 18 certificates...
Why no boobs then?
The UK has more of an issue with sex and morality than it does with violence. We've got a fairly violent history going back hundreds of years, but violence for the right cause was never an issue for us. On the other hand, we're a Christian nation with moral values to match. You only have to look back a few years to feckless meddlers like Mary Whitehouse to see sections of the public campaigning against sex and sleaze in the media.
Similarly, America doesn't mind violence but sex is still a touchy subject. A massive issue for developers is that if they include sexualised content in a video game they run the risk of receiving an Adults Only (AO) rating, which many retailers in the US will not carry, and would see the game restricted to very few sellers. It would be the financially disastrous equivalent of a Harry Potter DVD being restricted to licenced sex shops in the UK, very few people would buy it.
Germany is an interesting case; they're fairly liberal as far as sexual content goes but have a tenuous relationship with depictions of violence and have a long history of censoring games.
Personally, I prefer a more liberal censor who is inclined to let the individual decide what they want. The BBFC acted in a frankly disgusting manner over Manhunt 2, and for what? Manhunt was far more violent, far darker in tone and relentless focus on violence. So you never know with these damn censors.
Similarly, America doesn't mind violence but sex is still a touchy subject. A massive issue for developers is that if they include sexualised content in a video game they run the risk of receiving an Adults Only (AO) rating, which many retailers in the US will not carry, and would see the game restricted to very few sellers. It would be the financially disastrous equivalent of a Harry Potter DVD being restricted to licenced sex shops in the UK, very few people would buy it.
Germany is an interesting case; they're fairly liberal as far as sexual content goes but have a tenuous relationship with depictions of violence and have a long history of censoring games.
Personally, I prefer a more liberal censor who is inclined to let the individual decide what they want. The BBFC acted in a frankly disgusting manner over Manhunt 2, and for what? Manhunt was far more violent, far darker in tone and relentless focus on violence. So you never know with these damn censors.
Baryonyx said:
The UK has more of an issue with sex and morality than it does with violence. We've got a fairly violent history going back hundreds of years, but violence for the right cause was never an issue for us. On the other hand, we're a Christian nation with moral values to match. You only have to look back a few years to feckless meddlers like Mary Whitehouse to see sections of the public campaigning against sex and sleaze in the media.
Similarly, America doesn't mind violence but sex is still a touchy subject. A massive issue for developers is that if they include sexualised content in a video game they run the risk of receiving an Adults Only (AO) rating, which many retailers in the US will not carry, and would see the game restricted to very few sellers. It would be the financially disastrous equivalent of a Harry Potter DVD being restricted to licenced sex shops in the UK, very few people would buy it.
Germany is an interesting case; they're fairly liberal as far as sexual content goes but have a tenuous relationship with depictions of violence and have a long history of censoring games.
Personally, I prefer a more liberal censor who is inclined to let the individual decide what they want. The BBFC acted in a frankly disgusting manner over Manhunt 2, and for what? Manhunt was far more violent, far darker in tone and relentless focus on violence. So you never know with these damn censors.
Good answer.Similarly, America doesn't mind violence but sex is still a touchy subject. A massive issue for developers is that if they include sexualised content in a video game they run the risk of receiving an Adults Only (AO) rating, which many retailers in the US will not carry, and would see the game restricted to very few sellers. It would be the financially disastrous equivalent of a Harry Potter DVD being restricted to licenced sex shops in the UK, very few people would buy it.
Germany is an interesting case; they're fairly liberal as far as sexual content goes but have a tenuous relationship with depictions of violence and have a long history of censoring games.
Personally, I prefer a more liberal censor who is inclined to let the individual decide what they want. The BBFC acted in a frankly disgusting manner over Manhunt 2, and for what? Manhunt was far more violent, far darker in tone and relentless focus on violence. So you never know with these damn censors.
If an AO rating is a possibility, why not skin and release AO rated games, for mail order and those that which to stock them. Given choice, we all know what we'd both end up buying.
I'd love more proper adult content in videogames. Tits and arse is by the by, but I'd love a new Manhunt game, or something else as unflinching in it's bleak, despairing tone and portrayal of violence.
That said, making AO games and selling by mail order is not viable. Games get massive advertising coverage and distribution from the big retailers, so concessions are made to them for the sake of making a game a financial success. IIRC, Manhunt 2 received an AO rating in America, which meant a lot of big chain stores like Wal Mart wouldn't carry it. As a result, Rockstar were straight into the appeals process, which ended up with cuts being made to the game before it came out with an 'R' rating. Mind you, we got it even worse as the BBFC initially refused classification, essentially banning it.
That said, making AO games and selling by mail order is not viable. Games get massive advertising coverage and distribution from the big retailers, so concessions are made to them for the sake of making a game a financial success. IIRC, Manhunt 2 received an AO rating in America, which meant a lot of big chain stores like Wal Mart wouldn't carry it. As a result, Rockstar were straight into the appeals process, which ended up with cuts being made to the game before it came out with an 'R' rating. Mind you, we got it even worse as the BBFC initially refused classification, essentially banning it.
tim-b said:
What's wrong with real porn? 
Nothing. But if you want to have a proper fantasy world where you can steal cars, shoot people in the crotch, and not get in trouble. Then you also want to see a bit of girl on girl action in the back seat while you do it. Real porn just can't offer that as something you can do with your mates in the room.
Munter said:
tim-b said:
What's wrong with real porn?
Nothing. But if you want to have a proper fantasy world where you can steal cars, shoot people in the crotch, and not get in trouble. Then you also want to see a bit of girl on girl action in the back seat while you do it. Real porn just can't offer that as something you can do with your mates in the room.rhinochopig said:
But how do you masturbate with a controller in your hand? Or are you proposing a new dildonics device for the PS3 and Xbox?
You'll be wanting this then:http://www.gamegirladvance.com/2002/10/sex-in-game...
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