World of Tanks (Vol 2)

[Mastodon2]

RobDickinson said:

I'm not sure arty was nerfed... Its harder to one shot things but overall they are as bad or worse, given you have reusable consumables now too

Higher ROF, better accuracy, lower pen, lower damage. A buff in some respects, a nerf in others, hence I called it "nerfs / rework". I'm hoping they don't bring that to console, it just seems like an even bigger cause for annoyance, faster firing and the whole "stun" mechanic.

[Hedobot]

There certainly is a lot less arty around now thats for sure.

[TEKNOPUG]

I think that the arty is a lot more playable now.

[TooLateForAName]

I've stopped playing arty.

Does less damage than a heavy or a td these days. I know I did french arty which never did high damage anyway and it just seems pointless now.

[Havoc856-S]

I've started back up on PC from scratch - now back at the Hetzer and loving it...

[RobDickinson]

Hedobot said:

There certainly is a lot less arty around now thats for sure.

Not my experience! Every game yesterday 1-3 arty and many deaths to them.

They aim so fast and accurate now 6th sense is barely enough to get out of the hit zone.

[jimmyjimjim]

The accuracy, aim time and reload is basically back to where it was before the first great arty nerf, with the damage scaled back to 1/2 to 1/10 of what it used to be.

It's quite fun again.

[RobDickinson]

So..

Just got my t-54 after the absolutely terrible t-44. Sadly still using the same gun until I get the ~60k xp for one of the upgrades ( probably the one on the wrong tree too.. going t62a first.. guess I'll unlock both tier 10s)

Still grinding Type 4 H , have the derp now, still get really random results with it, looks like WG will nerf the armour too.

VK100.01P seems far far more reliable and a real fun tank, tier 9 looks ok but..

What else am I grinding? Put my crew back into t-30, even though the gunner loves shooting tracks :/

Playing for fun..
Hellcat, KV-2, vk3001P, vk2801

Staring at with hate:
Tier 6 sweedish td, pos tier 7 british TD. Unlocked tier 6 sweedish mt but really cant be fked.

have elited comet will probably grind down the rest of that line which seems ok..

[Keldemebeh]

Hi all,

I recently got into WoT, so a relative newbie.

I have a question - I chose to go down the USA tank destroyer route - T3 HMC, to T56 GMC, and now in the M8A1. However, the M8A1 shells bounce off tanks most of the time. I checked the penetration and it's something like 25-48, compared to the high numbers of the previous tanks I had. Is this a 'freemium' tank where I need to buy the explosive shells with gold coins to stand a chance? Or do I have to target specific tanks (e.g. light tanks)

[RobDickinson]

Keldemebeh said:

Hi all,

I recently got into WoT, so a relative newbie.

I have a question - I chose to go down the USA tank destroyer route - T3 HMC, to T56 GMC, and now in the M8A1. However, the M8A1 shells bounce off tanks most of the time. I checked the penetration and it's something like 25-48, compared to the high numbers of the previous tanks I had. Is this a 'freemium' tank where I need to buy the explosive shells with gold coins to stand a chance? Or do I have to target specific tanks (e.g. light tanks)

M8A1 has two tier 5 guns both should be fine, if you are bottom tier dont shoot at the top tier enemy heavies.

The 57mm has 110mm of pen, use that and unlock the t67 which is an absolute monster of a tank, fast, stealthy and very very deadly.


if your new all (well most) guns have 3 ammo types

they list the pen for all the
a/b/c

then the damage for all 3
1/2/3

Usually A is standard AP, B is 'gold' ( apcr, heat) C is HE

HE has limited use and unless its a big calibre gun should be avoided.
'gold' can be bought for credits but its expensive to use.

Edited by RobDickinson on Friday 23 June 10:53

[TEKNOPUG]

Keldemebeh said:

Hi all,

I recently got into WoT, so a relative newbie.

I have a question - I chose to go down the USA tank destroyer route - T3 HMC, to T56 GMC, and now in the M8A1. However, the M8A1 shells bounce off tanks most of the time. I checked the penetration and it's something like 25-48, compared to the high numbers of the previous tanks I had. Is this a 'freemium' tank where I need to buy the explosive shells with gold coins to stand a chance? Or do I have to target specific tanks (e.g. light tanks)

If you can't pen, try HE. Or move to a position to the side/behind tanks where their armour is weaker. Or learn weak spots. Or shoot the tracks out and farm points from your team mates hitting the disabled tank. All things you'll need to learn as you progress up the tiers.

[RobDickinson]

Base gun has 38 pen which sucks, unlock the 57mm

[BigMon]

RobDickinson said:

So..
VK100.01P seems far far more reliable and a real fun tank, tier 9 looks ok but..

I absolutely hate the VK and it's making me question whether I want to go down the rest of the line TBH.

It's so bloody slow, and everybody knows it's weak spots.

However, I could live with both those things if it had a decent gun. Unfortunately I think the top gun is pathetic. It does a lot of damage when it pens but I've had so many bounces with it, then you've got a glacial reload.

I've taken to firing gold in the bloody thing, and even then it's not great. The Mauschen looks like it has a better gun but it's pig slow as well, and the armour looks ste too.

I think the O-Ho is a much better equivalent tank at tier 8. The Type 4 Heavy isn't great, but I suspect it's better than the Mauschen.

[TEKNOPUG]

What is it with all the idiots that would rather let the clock run down and lose, than try and win but risk taking damage?

Does my fking head in.

Playing Karelia, attacking. 2 Mins left, we have 5 tanks in the middle on the hill, plus me as arty out wide. They have 2 meds and 1 arty left. Does anyone move? Do they fk! Not until there are only 30s left, when we manage to kill 2 quickly but have run out of time to cap/kill the last. s.

I can understand when defeat is inevitable so there is no point chasing a lost cause. But when victory is in your grasp but people still choose to survive and lose.... it's not even a fking draw in Assault!

[RobDickinson]

BigMon said:

I absolutely hate the VK and it's making me question whether I want to go down the rest of the line TBH.

It's so bloody slow, and everybody knows it's weak spots.

However, I could live with both those things if it had a decent gun. Unfortunately I think the top gun is pathetic. It does a lot of damage when it pens but I've had so many bounces with it, then you've got a glacial reload.

I've taken to firing gold in the bloody thing, and even then it's not great. The Mauschen looks like it has a better gun but it's pig slow as well, and the armour looks ste too.

I think the O-Ho is a much better equivalent tank at tier 8. The Type 4 Heavy isn't great, but I suspect it's better than the Mauschen.

I tried the top gun out for a bit and went back to the first.

Drops some pen but accuracy and dpm make up for it, if your shooting gold in both I'd rather hit a target...

And hide the weak spots..

[BigMon]

RobDickinson said:

I tried the top gun out for a bit and went back to the first.

Drops some pen but accuracy and dpm make up for it, if your shooting gold in both I'd rather hit a target...

And hide the weak spots..

I might try the lower gun.

And you can only hide the commanders hatch when peeking to the right. Otherwise you're shafted!

I'm not enjoying it though, and I don't think the Mauschen is going to be any better. Same with the ste T28.

Maybe really slow tanks just aren't my thing. At least in the Maus hardly anything can pen you.

[RobDickinson]

Man I wish WG would stop fking about with pissy 'rebalancing' of tanjs. This only seems to help the the elite who already have or can quickly unlock things.

Type 5 h is getting 'nerfed' except it isnt. 10mm less on 2 ports on the front isnt going to change, still need > 300mm to pen. and they add some speed and manoeuvrability to compensate. wtf.

Ok WG superheavies should be near impossible to hurt from the front. Thats fine. We have arty we have HE we have MT that can flank and there are enough open maps to do so, just make it all less corridor style..

Type 4 is getting an armour nerf. tbh it already is pretty poor overall for its speed

The rest of the line is getting changes that probably should have had from the start OI exp looses its big gun gains more (*front)armour OI looses rear armour etc

batchat 25t is getting hmm.. changed.? HD model, 1 extra round in clip, shorter reload, shorter shot time, faster aim, damage per shell dropped from 390 to 300 'because'. Clip damage has dropped 150. Pen has dropped a little on APCR and a lot on heat rounds which will hurt some.

[Mastodon2]

The Bat Chat nerfs are stupid and uncalled for. WG can't resist fiddling with things that are fine while ignoring the completely broken things in the game.

[bstb3]

All the B-C needed, if anything, was to lose one shell to reduce the high burst damage & get compensation in terms of reload and gun handling. It's hardly the most broken tank though, but they tend to only look at the balance when HD modelling for some reason. Crazy it takes them so long to deal with tanks that have obvious issues - Maus and Type 5 overbuff, stupidly bad FV215B etc. which are much more in need of attention.

They finally got round to buffing the 121 though, so it's not all bad.

[BigMon]

RobDickinson said:

Type 4 is getting an armour nerf. tbh it already is pretty poor overall for its speed

It is bloody awful and I'm still about 150K away from a Type 5.