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vonuber said:
anonymous said:
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Yup, 32gb of ddr4 ram too, and I've got one of those socket M2 hard drives running the OS and games. Still got my old SSD drives in for file store. This what i got, already had a decent case and m/k, plus a corsair water cooler for the CPU:
Wayoftheflower said:
xjay1337 said:
I'm going to be upgrading from 8GB to 16GB.
https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/TUF-B360M-PLU...
This is my Mobo, not the best but I'm not a millionaire.
I have a GTX1060 6GB and Intel I5 8400.
Would this work with my Mobo given it's max speed is 2667?
I have the similar ASUS TUF B350 with Ryzen CPU. I'm interested, do you have a "slow" post? I recently went M.2 NMVE for boot drive and the TUF logo seems to hang around for ages (~20s) before jumping straight to Win10 login screen. I know it's nitpicking when Steam is now ready to go in less than a minute after ON but it bugs me as it should be faster still.https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/TUF-B360M-PLU...
This is my Mobo, not the best but I'm not a millionaire.
I have a GTX1060 6GB and Intel I5 8400.
Would this work with my Mobo given it's max speed is 2667?
As for memory the web seems to think it's no problem and 3000MHz RAM will just run at the maximum 2667 of your motherboard.
I have no issues with the boot up - Goes really quickly for me.
I got the ram (3000Mhz ones) and it's obviously downclocked itself to 2667 without any problems so far.
xjay1337 said:
Wayoftheflower said:
xjay1337 said:
I'm going to be upgrading from 8GB to 16GB.
https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/TUF-B360M-PLU...
This is my Mobo, not the best but I'm not a millionaire.
I have a GTX1060 6GB and Intel I5 8400.
Would this work with my Mobo given it's max speed is 2667?
I have the similar ASUS TUF B350 with Ryzen CPU. I'm interested, do you have a "slow" post? I recently went M.2 NMVE for boot drive and the TUF logo seems to hang around for ages (~20s) before jumping straight to Win10 login screen. I know it's nitpicking when Steam is now ready to go in less than a minute after ON but it bugs me as it should be faster still.https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/TUF-B360M-PLU...
This is my Mobo, not the best but I'm not a millionaire.
I have a GTX1060 6GB and Intel I5 8400.
Would this work with my Mobo given it's max speed is 2667?
As for memory the web seems to think it's no problem and 3000MHz RAM will just run at the maximum 2667 of your motherboard.
I have no issues with the boot up - Goes really quickly for me.
I got the ram (3000Mhz ones) and it's obviously downclocked itself to 2667 without any problems so far.
I built a pc in 2014 that I thought was pretty futureproof. 6 years on and the tech is practically prehistoric.
Mrs Glade wants to get a VR headset... I don’t think it’s worth keeping any of my old gear...
AMD FX-9370
Sabretooth 990 mobo
8gb Corsair vengeance LP (1600) RAM
R9 280X
H100i cooler (which coincidentally has just failed - my second one so want to go air cooled in future if possible)
I guess to run VR I need to power 2x 1440p screens (2560 x 1440 total) at 90hz so it needs to have a top spec gpu.
I think it might be possible to keep the CPU, but perhaps better starting from scratch. Mobo is only PCIe 2. And I fancy a MNVe SSD.
Perhaps an intel CPU that only burns 65w would be Ok and I can stick to more reliable air cooling.
Would an i7-9700 hold us back?
Mrs Glade wants to get a VR headset... I don’t think it’s worth keeping any of my old gear...
AMD FX-9370
Sabretooth 990 mobo
8gb Corsair vengeance LP (1600) RAM
R9 280X
H100i cooler (which coincidentally has just failed - my second one so want to go air cooled in future if possible)
I guess to run VR I need to power 2x 1440p screens (2560 x 1440 total) at 90hz so it needs to have a top spec gpu.
I think it might be possible to keep the CPU, but perhaps better starting from scratch. Mobo is only PCIe 2. And I fancy a MNVe SSD.
Perhaps an intel CPU that only burns 65w would be Ok and I can stick to more reliable air cooling.
Would an i7-9700 hold us back?
Edited by Glade on Sunday 26th January 22:34
Id go AMD for processor. AM4 socket gives more upgradability down the line plus PCI G4.
Doesn't need to be much, a 2600/1080 runs a vive absolutely fine, the key thing is based around budget. I'd always stick with Intel for VR though, in my experience the AMD GPUs don't work as well (AMD Driver fun).
Something like this for new (case can be altered etc): https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bt6Dk6
£1k for a 3600X / RTX2070 and 1tb NVME SSD. AM4 X570 for Gen4 and future AMD CPUs (another year or so promised). Can down spec some components if needed, but that's a hell of a bang for buck machine.
Obviously second hand is always a choice, but thats luck on what you can find.
Doesn't need to be much, a 2600/1080 runs a vive absolutely fine, the key thing is based around budget. I'd always stick with Intel for VR though, in my experience the AMD GPUs don't work as well (AMD Driver fun).
Something like this for new (case can be altered etc): https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bt6Dk6
£1k for a 3600X / RTX2070 and 1tb NVME SSD. AM4 X570 for Gen4 and future AMD CPUs (another year or so promised). Can down spec some components if needed, but that's a hell of a bang for buck machine.
Obviously second hand is always a choice, but thats luck on what you can find.
Thank you, I am playing with a few options from that base! Have added my case and power supply.
I guess PCIe 4 for futureprooing. currently it doesn’t seem like the bandwidth is being utilised... and AM4 is the current socket so can’t get any better right now and will support the next release of cpu.
I read single core cpu speed is better than multiple cores for VR as is not currently using much multi threading? Any truth in that.
I guess PCIe 4 for futureprooing. currently it doesn’t seem like the bandwidth is being utilised... and AM4 is the current socket so can’t get any better right now and will support the next release of cpu.
I read single core cpu speed is better than multiple cores for VR as is not currently using much multi threading? Any truth in that.
Yes and no. The VR itself itself will only use 2 threads, but when you're running VR, you're running multiple things at once.
You've got the VR controller, the game itself, steam vr and then any windows/background stuff that normally runs.
I've run my vive pro from 3 of my PCs at home without issue, Intel 6700K (OC to 4.7) / Intel 7700u (laptop) / Ryzen 2600 (OC to 4.2). Both the 6700 and 2600 have the same GPU (watercooled 1080ti) and I can't tell the difference between them.
(I've only run my normal vive from the laptop as it doesn't have a displayport output on its inbuilt 1070.)
CPUs at this stage (and price point) aren't really the bottleneck, the GPU is. I dont think a 3600 will bottleneck any consumer graphics card at the moment. Also got to think of PCI lane availability, but again at this price point, its not really an issue.
Yes PCIv4 is not really utilised at the moment, but its nice to have the motherboard for when it is, you can just drop either the PCIv4 graphics card or storage straight onto it.
AMD are still using AM4 until the end of next year (2021), so that gives you 2 years of new releases still. So in 5 years time if you want an upgrade, you can put a 5970X (or whatever they call the top tier 2021 CPU) in the board without an issue (minus a bios update probably).
And lots of what you have already will be plug and play, so case, storage and PSU Possibly - which is ~£300 saved already. That £1k is if you're starting from scratch.
You've got the VR controller, the game itself, steam vr and then any windows/background stuff that normally runs.
I've run my vive pro from 3 of my PCs at home without issue, Intel 6700K (OC to 4.7) / Intel 7700u (laptop) / Ryzen 2600 (OC to 4.2). Both the 6700 and 2600 have the same GPU (watercooled 1080ti) and I can't tell the difference between them.
(I've only run my normal vive from the laptop as it doesn't have a displayport output on its inbuilt 1070.)
CPUs at this stage (and price point) aren't really the bottleneck, the GPU is. I dont think a 3600 will bottleneck any consumer graphics card at the moment. Also got to think of PCI lane availability, but again at this price point, its not really an issue.
Yes PCIv4 is not really utilised at the moment, but its nice to have the motherboard for when it is, you can just drop either the PCIv4 graphics card or storage straight onto it.
AMD are still using AM4 until the end of next year (2021), so that gives you 2 years of new releases still. So in 5 years time if you want an upgrade, you can put a 5970X (or whatever they call the top tier 2021 CPU) in the board without an issue (minus a bios update probably).
And lots of what you have already will be plug and play, so case, storage and PSU Possibly - which is ~£300 saved already. That £1k is if you're starting from scratch.
I have a 1tb HDD and a 120gb SATA SSD, but that SSD isn't really big enough.
If I got the latest graphics card and threw it in my pcie 2 MOBO presumably it would work? Do you think performance would be ok on a FX-9370 cpu?
I'd just need to fix the cooling. Fx-9370 kicks out 220w iirc!!! I don't fancy another H100i.
Perhaps an NH-D15?
ETA: hmmmm this article from 2017 suggests an FX-8350 is always lagging contemporary cpu
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/oculus-rif...
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If I got the latest graphics card and threw it in my pcie 2 MOBO presumably it would work? Do you think performance would be ok on a FX-9370 cpu?
I'd just need to fix the cooling. Fx-9370 kicks out 220w iirc!!! I don't fancy another H100i.
Perhaps an NH-D15?
ETA: hmmmm this article from 2017 suggests an FX-8350 is always lagging contemporary cpu
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/oculus-rif...
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Edited by Glade on Tuesday 28th January 21:45
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