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On paper it shouldn't be able to do much at 4k.. but I'm impressed (the bonus of it being designed as such); especially things like DX12 in the die. Nice.
Price-wise. £400+ - that'll hurt it. But given the spec, the component price, it could be even more (maybe £499?). It'll be a dead duck at that money... mind you, Nintendo are selling the Switch at silly money and people are eating it up!
Price-wise. £400+ - that'll hurt it. But given the spec, the component price, it could be even more (maybe £499?). It'll be a dead duck at that money... mind you, Nintendo are selling the Switch at silly money and people are eating it up!
I'll definitely be getting one. I'll preorder one for release day I think.
I've been a dedicated Xbox player since my days on the crystal. I've always had PlayStations, but my preference has remained with the Xbox. This is really Microsoft coming full circle as the original Xbox was the geek's choice for gaming and it was a stonking powerhouse.
The One duly rectified the damage that the 360 RROD did to Microsoft's reputation but it's processing power has never been up to scratch. It works well, but when I A/B games against the PS4 it is notably lacking. The Scorpio should fix this as the stats are tremendous but I do wonder about the content it will receive as most designers will still be looking to spread titles as widely as possible so the PS4 and Xbox One will likely remain as the focus.
But what price can you put on the satisfaction of having that sort of tech sat under your TV?
I've been a dedicated Xbox player since my days on the crystal. I've always had PlayStations, but my preference has remained with the Xbox. This is really Microsoft coming full circle as the original Xbox was the geek's choice for gaming and it was a stonking powerhouse.
The One duly rectified the damage that the 360 RROD did to Microsoft's reputation but it's processing power has never been up to scratch. It works well, but when I A/B games against the PS4 it is notably lacking. The Scorpio should fix this as the stats are tremendous but I do wonder about the content it will receive as most designers will still be looking to spread titles as widely as possible so the PS4 and Xbox One will likely remain as the focus.
But what price can you put on the satisfaction of having that sort of tech sat under your TV?
Excited! 
The 360 is, for me, the best console ever. Hopefully, this can be replicated. Also, MS have always done the best pads out there.
I'll be pre-ordering whatever, however, I am slightly concerned by the lack of exclusive titles of late. Sony have had a bumper few years of real triple A games. The risk is, and it has been mentioned, multi-platform releases will be developed without proper optimisation. Still, the noise is that there are real quality games to be shown soon.
Looking forward to re-connecting with some buddies that I Halo'd with. Fun times.
The 360 is, for me, the best console ever. Hopefully, this can be replicated. Also, MS have always done the best pads out there.
I'll be pre-ordering whatever, however, I am slightly concerned by the lack of exclusive titles of late. Sony have had a bumper few years of real triple A games. The risk is, and it has been mentioned, multi-platform releases will be developed without proper optimisation. Still, the noise is that there are real quality games to be shown soon.
Looking forward to re-connecting with some buddies that I Halo'd with. Fun times.
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Similar. I was in the queue at CEX when a lad traded in a boxed up xbox1 and was given £77 in cash. I thought about offering him £80 on the spot but just couldn't think of any reason I would want one.I have PS2, PS3, PS4 Pro and Wii U. I like an excuse to buy another console but even that cheap I couldn't work out why I would.
Which is a shame.
Scorpio? Well if it totally kicks ass then maybe this is the reason why that I am looking for.
RW
The Scorpio can be as powerful as it likes - unless MS does something pretty major soon about the frankly crap game selection the console will end up being a dud. History has shown that having the most powerful console doesn't mean its going to be a success if there isn't anything worth playing on it.
I genuinely regret buying the XBO. Its been a particularly weak console generation for Microsoft and the range of games has been very limited, and doesn't appeal to a "mature gamer 37yo" like me.
There definitely seem to be more varied and interesting games on the PS4. The XBO just seems to be a lot of indentikit racing games, first person shooters or 3rd person cover based shooters.
The XBO is the last console from Microsoft I will likely buy.
I genuinely regret buying the XBO. Its been a particularly weak console generation for Microsoft and the range of games has been very limited, and doesn't appeal to a "mature gamer 37yo" like me.
There definitely seem to be more varied and interesting games on the PS4. The XBO just seems to be a lot of indentikit racing games, first person shooters or 3rd person cover based shooters.
The XBO is the last console from Microsoft I will likely buy.
moustachebandit said:
The Scorpio can be as powerful as it likes - unless MS does something pretty major soon about the frankly crap game selection the console will end up being a dud. History has shown that having the most powerful console doesn't mean its going to be a success if there isn't anything worth playing on it.
I genuinely regret buying the XBO. Its been a particularly weak console generation for Microsoft and the range of games has been very limited, and doesn't appeal to a "mature gamer 37yo" like me.
There definitely seem to be more varied and interesting games on the PS4. The XBO just seems to be a lot of indentikit racing games, first person shooters or 3rd person cover based shooters.
The XBO is the last console from Microsoft I will likely buy.
What games are on the ps4 that you'd rather have on the Xboxone? I genuinely regret buying the XBO. Its been a particularly weak console generation for Microsoft and the range of games has been very limited, and doesn't appeal to a "mature gamer 37yo" like me.
There definitely seem to be more varied and interesting games on the PS4. The XBO just seems to be a lot of indentikit racing games, first person shooters or 3rd person cover based shooters.
The XBO is the last console from Microsoft I will likely buy.
CEO of sony making this amazing tweet in relation to xbox.
https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/85008785684...
https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/85008785684...
ambuletz said:
CEO of sony making this amazing tweet in relation to xbox.
https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/85008785684...
It's a parody accounthttps://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/85008785684...
moustachebandit said:
The Scorpio can be as powerful as it likes - unless MS does something pretty major soon about the frankly crap game selection the console will end up being a dud. History has shown that having the most powerful console doesn't mean its going to be a success if there isn't anything worth playing on it.
I genuinely regret buying the XBO. Its been a particularly weak console generation for Microsoft and the range of games has been very limited, and doesn't appeal to a "mature gamer 37yo" like me.
There definitely seem to be more varied and interesting games on the PS4. The XBO just seems to be a lot of indentikit racing games, first person shooters or 3rd person cover based shooters.
The XBO is the last console from Microsoft I will likely buy.
The Scorpio will not plummet like the Gamecube or Dreamcast did (consoles that flopped despite big power advantages at the time). The Scorpio will have all the multi-platform games, rendered in as good a fashion as you will see them. The mistakes of the past won't be made again (by anyone except Nintendo). I genuinely regret buying the XBO. Its been a particularly weak console generation for Microsoft and the range of games has been very limited, and doesn't appeal to a "mature gamer 37yo" like me.
There definitely seem to be more varied and interesting games on the PS4. The XBO just seems to be a lot of indentikit racing games, first person shooters or 3rd person cover based shooters.
The XBO is the last console from Microsoft I will likely buy.
The Xbox has struggled for exclusives over the past year but it gets about 90% of what the PS4 gets. Most of what it doesn't get is the obscure and often rubbish JRPG's that appear on the digital store. Plus, an annoyingly high amount of PS4 exlusive stuff is shared with the PSP. Hardly cutting edge.
The Xbox has missed top exclusives like Bloodborne and Nioh, and the collapse of Scalebound hasn't helped in a year where Halo Wars 2 and Dead Rising 4 arrived to pretty muted consumer reaction. But overwhelmingly, the console's game selections are almost identical.
I have a PS4 and Xbox One and I reckon if you don't much like the selection of titles on the One you'll find the PS4 lot isn't to your taste either. I'm guessing you're looking for less involved stuff, and that you like mobile gaming?
Also, Uncharted is s
t. You're not missing anything. I was kind of surprised that the Scorpio is basically just a pimped out version of the XBone in the same way that the PS4 Pro is just a beefed up PS4 ... I was expecting a new generation of tech (CPU cores on Ryzen architecture and GPU based on the next gen AMD) - Instead they've just went for boosting the Jaguar core CPU clock and adding extra CUs and boosting the clockspeed in the GPU area, pretty much as the PS4 Pro did.
However, it probably means that they can get it out at a decent price and it is undoubtedly considerably more powerful than PS4 Pro on the GPU side (even if only marginally on the CPU front) and will come with a UHD BD player, so if it's reasonably priced I may be tempted to bite. For reference, I already have a PS4 Pro.
Of course, if it fails to get the game support I will think twice. However going from what was said in the original DF video, MS seem to be taking a more sensible and integrated approach than Sony did, saying that existing XBone titles will be able to render at 4k and that there will be specific options to choose 1080 or 4k on every title. Plus, 1080 supersampled down from 4k will be available on everything.
This is definitely an improvement over the somewhat random Sony approach whereby there must be specific support coded into the game for the higher res output of the Pro and whether or not you have an in-game choice of resolution (and whether or not that is supersampled) is totally down to the developer. I think MSes experience of the PC gaming scene where games must be able to run on a variety of systems and monitors has helped them to better understand the issue.
However, it probably means that they can get it out at a decent price and it is undoubtedly considerably more powerful than PS4 Pro on the GPU side (even if only marginally on the CPU front) and will come with a UHD BD player, so if it's reasonably priced I may be tempted to bite. For reference, I already have a PS4 Pro.
Of course, if it fails to get the game support I will think twice. However going from what was said in the original DF video, MS seem to be taking a more sensible and integrated approach than Sony did, saying that existing XBone titles will be able to render at 4k and that there will be specific options to choose 1080 or 4k on every title. Plus, 1080 supersampled down from 4k will be available on everything.
This is definitely an improvement over the somewhat random Sony approach whereby there must be specific support coded into the game for the higher res output of the Pro and whether or not you have an in-game choice of resolution (and whether or not that is supersampled) is totally down to the developer. I think MSes experience of the PC gaming scene where games must be able to run on a variety of systems and monitors has helped them to better understand the issue.
I think it's about buying games that you can play on xboxone and Scorpio just with better graphics on the Scorpio?
I was under the impression Microsoft want some kind of system where you have the same games on different platforms just with different specs.
Ultimately moving away from consoles completely. Kind of like everyone just having different spec but standard Gaming computers.
So my one son might be online playing gtaVI with my other son on his xboxone. But I might be wrong.
I was under the impression Microsoft want some kind of system where you have the same games on different platforms just with different specs.
Ultimately moving away from consoles completely. Kind of like everyone just having different spec but standard Gaming computers.
So my one son might be online playing gtaVI with my other son on his xboxone. But I might be wrong.
El stovey said:
I think it's about buying games that you can play on xboxone and Scorpio just with better graphics on the Scorpio?
I was under the impression Microsoft want some kind of system where you have the same games on different platforms just with different specs.
Ultimately moving away from consoles completely. Kind of like everyone just having different spec but standard Gaming computers.
So my one son might be online playing gtaVI with my other son on his xboxone. But I might be wrong.
Yep; include the PC and you have multiple hardware platforms running the same code - eventually the "Xbox" goes away and a set-top-box replaces it which is a PC (yes, I know the Xbox is exactly that, but even more so). They're already there with cross-play and all first-party games now being "Play anywhere". The Digital Foundry stuff shows Forza Apex @ 4k so this is a long time coming IMO.I was under the impression Microsoft want some kind of system where you have the same games on different platforms just with different specs.
Ultimately moving away from consoles completely. Kind of like everyone just having different spec but standard Gaming computers.
So my one son might be online playing gtaVI with my other son on his xboxone. But I might be wrong.
Sony and to a lesser extent, Nintendo, have a harder play here - they'll need to continue developing hardware or go entirely with cloud-based server platforms. Interesting times ahead.
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