Cyberpunk 2077 - NO SPOILERS!

[mmm-five]

Rojibo said:

Depends where you ordered it from, and which model?

If it's an ASUS TUF non OC, 2022 is your best bet

I think it's the Zotac one (or whatever PC Specialist can get their hands on)...or I could save £300 and go for a Radeon 5700XT.

It's supposedly all my build is waiting on, but if it doesn't arrive soon (which it sounds like it won't) then I'll be forced have the opportunity to upgrade to a new Zen 3 CPU as well

It was meant as a Christmas present to myself, so I've got a month or two before I really need to worry...and the Radeon 6xxx may be out by then

Edited by mmm-five on Tuesday 27th October 17:30

[judas]

Bit of a fking pantomine this is now

Yeah, they need more time to polish and fix for launch, I get that and I'd rather have that done before release than patched in afterwards. But to announce the game's gone gold and then do this? Sloppy, very sloppy.

Bah!

[Jim on the hill]

Meh, I'd rather play when it's ready.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Jim on the hill said:

Meh, I'd rather play when it's ready.

Me too. Imagine waiting all this time and then it being a buggy piece of crud. I'd rather they took the time to properly play test it and go through a proper QA & bugfix cycle or two.

[ReallyReallyGood]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Jim on the hill said:

Meh, I'd rather play when it's ready.

Me too. Imagine waiting all this time and then it being a buggy piece of crud. I'd rather they took the time to properly play test it and go through a proper QA & bugfix cycle or two.

What makes you think it won't be a buggy mess? The more it's delayed (what is this, delay number 3, 4?) the more likely it's gonna be a Fallout 76

[Jim on the hill]

ReallyReallyGood said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Jim on the hill said:

Meh, I'd rather play when it's ready.

Me too. Imagine waiting all this time and then it being a buggy piece of crud. I'd rather they took the time to properly play test it and go through a proper QA & bugfix cycle or two.

What makes you think it won't be a buggy mess? The more it's delayed (what is this, delay number 3, 4?) the more likely it's gonna be a Fallout 76

The picture/statement sort of says it all. CD Project have an excellent record and RDR2 was delayed and delayed but was more than worth it.

If you look at what happened with Mass Effect and NMS it's better to be sure of what you are releasing then sticking to some random date you decided on 18 months ago imo.

[chris4652009]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Jim on the hill said:

Meh, I'd rather play when it's ready.

Me too. Imagine waiting all this time and then it being a buggy piece of crud. I'd rather they took the time to properly play test it and go through a proper QA & bugfix cycle or two.

Me three

[Lazadude]

As the disk would have already been finalised and created, been guessing with some friends the size of the day 1 patch. I'm thinking >100GB...

[chris4652009]

Lazadude said:

As the disk would have already been finalised and created, been guessing with some friends the size of the day 1 patch. I'm thinking >100GB...

Yeah the game is gold so discs printed afaik
It’d be a day one patch of unknown size

[chris4652009]

Some of the twitter comments are vile btw

[captain_cynic]

chris4652009 said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Jim on the hill said:

Meh, I'd rather play when it's ready.

Me too. Imagine waiting all this time and then it being a buggy piece of crud. I'd rather they took the time to properly play test it and go through a proper QA & bugfix cycle or two.

Me three

This is why I disagree with the entire concept of release dates. It forces developers to release half finished, buggy messes to meet arbitrary deadlines made by the publishers.

I've always been a fan of the "release it when it's done" philosophy.

With Cyberpunk2077 (can we call it C77 yet) I think they've been a victim of the Feep Creature as many games have been in recent years. I wouldn't be supprised if its delayed again.

Of course we have release dates to encourage pre-orders... Another concept that should die. I've never pre ordered a game in my life and never will.

[deckster]

captain_cynic said:

This is why I disagree with the entire concept of release dates. It forces developers to release half finished, buggy messes to meet arbitrary deadlines made by the publishers.

I've always been a fan of the "release it when it's done" philosophy.

To an extent I agree, but as with many things, games are never really "done". Given time, money, and resource there's always more tweaking, more polishing, more things you can put in there. So release dates are pretty much essential to actually give people a target to aim at and a realistic "that's good enough" milestone.

[captain_cynic]

deckster said:

captain_cynic said:

This is why I disagree with the entire concept of release dates. It forces developers to release half finished, buggy messes to meet arbitrary deadlines made by the publishers.

I've always been a fan of the "release it when it's done" philosophy.

To an extent I agree, but as with many things, games are never really "done". Given time, money, and resource there's always more tweaking, more polishing, more things you can put in there. So release dates are pretty much essential to actually give people a target to aim at and a realistic "that's good enough" milestone.

This is exactly what I mean when I say "done". Another old dev cliche is "perfect is the enemy of finished".

If you're going to have release dates, your PM needs to make sure you can meet them and that is somewhere where the games industry fails horribly.

I also think there is a huge difference between a game that requires a little tweeking and balancing post release (we can test until the cows come home but ultimately you're never going to cover everything) to a game that is released with blindingly obvious, game breaking bugs that were picked up by automated testing.

Edited by captain_cynic on Thursday 29th October 08:43

[DanL]

Some people clearly over-invested in the game and it being released. The same people would write the same stuff if they released a game that was overly buggy or unfinished.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

DanL said:

The same people would write the same stuff if they released a game that was overly buggy or unfinished.

Exactly.

[Zetec-S]

DanL said:

Some people clearly over-invested in the game and it being released. The same people would write the same stuff if they released a game that was overly buggy or unfinished.

Wow, beggars belief.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

People asking for it to come out when it's ready

I take it you never had the joy of Duke nukem forever (never) announced 1997 released 2011 and it was terrible

[Zetec-S]

It's a fine line I guess between not delaying for too long and having people lose interest, and avoiding a rushed and buggy release.

Not quite the same, but anyone who played the standalone DayZ early access version will understand how frustrating it is to have 5 years of (literal) feast or famine updates before the official release.

[Jim on the hill]

DanL said:

Some people clearly over-invested in the game and it being released. The same people would write the same stuff if they released a game that was overly buggy or unfinished.

I sort of hope they delay it again due to the threats. Teach people this isn't acceptable.

[Jim on the hill]

Trustmeimadoctor said:

People asking for it to come out when it's ready

I take it you never had the joy of Duke nukem forever (never) announced 1997 released 2011 and it was terrible

So it wasn't ready