Google Stadia instead of next gen console??

Google Stadia instead of next gen console??

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gangzoom

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6,280 posts

215 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Not tried Stadia before but got an email about a free trial, and ongoing cost is only £8.99/month so why not try it.

Destiny 2 running beautifully on a 2013 MacBookPro.



GRID on my S9 with cheapo Bluetooth controller also worked great.





Very little latency, similar/better than old UT/Counter strike days from the 00s. Game access/install times are also very impressive and easy, there also appears to be cloud syncing between devices/games.



Overall given I needed to spend exactly £0 on new hardware am very tempted to keep it going after the free trial, especially when next gen consoles are looking like £500+ machine without games!!

You do need a good internet connection, haven't tried in on the TV yet but I recon you will need a hardwired connection for 4k streaming on a 50inch+ display.

Anyone else tried the service?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Seen a linus review and every streaming service seems to have some drawbacks.

You're limited in fps/hz, or quality or resolution etc and sometimes lag is an issue, or game library. But they are coming along.

gangzoom

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Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Getting weirder by the second, Elder scrolls online 'running' perfectly on my S9 using touch screen keys??!!

Google has just killed next gen consoles, even their own Play store games. £8.99/month for this cross platform convince, and no dedicated hardware, its game changer.


gangzoom

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Tuesday 30th June 2020
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RobDickinson said:
Seen a linus review and every streaming service seems to have some drawbacks.

You're limited in fps/hz, or quality or resolution etc and sometimes lag is an issue, or game library. But they are coming along.
There's currently a free trial, give it a go. As long as your internet connection is good you can be playing some AAA titles on any device you have in minutes.

Lag is no worse than good old 00s days, no one had issues achieving 'Monster kills' streaks back than in UT smile.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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gangzoom said:
Lag is no worse than good old 00s days, no one had issues achieving 'Monster kills' streaks back than in UT smile.
It's different lag though, it's control /feedback lag rather than enemy update / server lag.

I'll check if it's available here

untakenname

4,965 posts

192 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Had the founders edition since launch and have rarely used it, went to cancel a couple of months back but they gave some free months due to Lockdown so forgot but looking at the billing they charged me again.
The concept is good but there's one major thing that lets it down and that is that it looks pants on a 4k OLED TV and also the same game costs a lot more than on Steam, I've got an RX5700 also plugged in via HDMI and the games look far sharper and better.

I was disappointed at launch as they marketed it as 'The Netflix of games' when there was only a couple of titles free to play, they may have now rectified this but uninstalled the app so don't know.

Petrol Only

1,592 posts

175 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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It's Google give it a year and it will be binned!

Next generation killer? laugh

gangzoom

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Tuesday 30th June 2020
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untakenname said:
The concept is good but there's one major thing that lets it down and that is that it looks pants on a 4k OLED TV and also the same game costs a lot more than on Steam, I've got an RX5700 also plugged in via HDMI and the games look far sharper and better.
Haven't tried on the TV yet, last time I switched on the Xbox it took 30 mintues to run all the updates.

What's a RX5700? I presume a PC?

Playing on my old 'work' MacBook Pro is about as good as it gets for me these days. First time I played a FPS with WASD keys for ages and quite enjoyed it.

£9/month seems OK to me for whats on offer, providing they keep supplying the bundled games in that price. Strava is costing me about half that much for just been a GPX data tracker smile.

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Edited by gangzoom on Tuesday 30th June 07:11

gangzoom

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Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Quick play before the nursery run....realised a track pad isn't going to work with Elder Scrolls, yes I playing Destiny 2 with a trackpad yesterday!!..



...GRID though worked fine with just the keyboard, no fancy steering wheel setups sadly.



No am not serious gamer anymore, but been able to access these AAA title on a 2013 laptop, with £0 upfront cost is pretty good. Google have a winner on their hands, the number of people like me must be massive versus the number of people getting ready to splash out £500+ on a PS5 before games/online access - Off to get a mesh WiFi setup for the house smile

Mafffew

2,149 posts

111 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Good to see somebody likes it smile

It didn't have a great launch, but I understand it has improved since then. I can't see it taking on the big hitters like Sony and Microsoft, but it could capture a few casual gamers.

crofty1984

15,845 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Mafffew said:
Good to see somebody likes it smile

It didn't have a great launch, but I understand it has improved since then. I can't see it taking on the big hitters like Sony and Microsoft, but it could capture a few casual gamers.
Could be that's their plan. The gaming equivalent of "You meet the nicest people on a Honda". You're not going to tempt the hardcore bikers/gamers from their PS/Xbox/PC, so don't try, reach out to the other 90%.

Stevil

10,656 posts

229 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Just to add, for not a great deal more each month you can do hire-purchase on an XBOX One under their all-access scheme:

https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/shop-xaa

Which gives you 2 years of GamePass too effectively meaning you can download and play a library of over 100 titles. I'm really not a fan of Stadia, so many promises that they've failed to deliver on and advertising things like 4K gaming when it's really just an upscaled 1080P. I'll happily give it a go if it hangs around and they get things sorted out, but there's no way I want to pay full-price for titles on a platform that may well not be around in a years time.

geeks

9,155 posts

139 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Petrol Only said:
It's Google give it a year and it will be binned!
With less than 24 hours notice!

gangzoom

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Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Stevil said:
So many promises that they've failed to deliver on and advertising things like 4K gaming when it's really just an upscaled 1080P. I'll happily give it a go if it hangs around and they get things sorted out, but there's no way I want to pay full-price for titles on a platform that may well not be around in a years time.
Have to say I have zero interest in 4K gaming, 2013 MacBook Pro cannot run much these days and my Xbox One is essentially a door stop as its turned on once every 2 months.

Haven't quite worked out what the game pricing on Stadia is. Currently it seems to suggest the monthly cost INCLUDES half a dozen AAA titles?

If Stadia wants £40 + monthly fee, forget it, I'll go back no gaming at all.

But it does work well for me, managed to do a few races in Grid whilst in-between cooking dinner with the laptop open.

gangzoom

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Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Stevil said:
Just to add, for not a great deal more each month you can do hire-purchase on an XBOX One under their all-access scheme:
Thats double the cost of Stadia, and when I tried Xbox online thing taking 40 minutes to download a game wasn't for me.

I had Stadia open whilst catching up on emails last night, just been able to click on a tab in Chrome and get jump into a game within a few seconds for 10-15 minute break from work stuff is fab.

It reminds of me of first trying Netflix when I still was buying DVD/BlueRays. For Ultimate quality the hard media was better but the convince of streaming is so much more important for most people.

If Google keeps the pricing reasonable I can see Stadia really growing, seriously in the current financial climate £400+ for PS5 + cost of games versus £9/month with no additional hardware costs, surely that's a no brainer for most people?


gangzoom

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Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Those of you who have tried Stadia may be able to help, so this is the list of games I have access to during the trial.

Do these games dissappear after the trial or do they stay in my account providing I pay the £8.99/month?


Stevil

10,656 posts

229 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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They give out one free game a month to Pro subscribers so that is the list. In much the same way PlayStation and XBox give out free games each month when you subscribe to their services. If you want to play something outside of that list you'll need to pay the full RRP for the game.

I think you're trying to convince a set of mainly hardcore gamers on this forum, whereas generally that demographic is aware of the failings of the system. You may be right about it being a better bet for casual gamers but Google haven't done the best job of advertising the system so I doubt most are aware it even exists.

Oakey

27,550 posts

216 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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gangzoom said:
There's currently a free trial, give it a go. As long as your internet connection is good you can be playing some AAA titles on any device you have in minutes.

Lag is no worse than good old 00s days, no one had issues achieving 'Monster kills' streaks back than in UT smile.
Because back then nearly everyone had a st ping

bigandclever

13,767 posts

238 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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I might have another look. Got a Founders edition and was so underwhelmed it’s been in the box ever since.

TheDrBrian

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222 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Oakey said:
gangzoom said:
There's currently a free trial, give it a go. As long as your internet connection is good you can be playing some AAA titles on any device you have in minutes.

Lag is no worse than good old 00s days, no one had issues achieving 'Monster kills' streaks back than in UT smile.
Because back then nearly everyone had a st ping
It’s bad when you’ve got lag in the controls on a single player game